Canada joining the UK and France to try to fix Trump's Gaza mess

[HDGristle]

Canada has joined France and Britain in announcing plans to recognize a Palestinian state in September as international pressure builds on Israel over the ongoing starvation crisis and war in Gaza.

The move leaves the United States increasingly isolated from some of its closest allies on the issue of Israel and how it has conducted its military campaign.

US President Donald Trump blasted Canada’s decision, threatening to derail ongoing trade talks with Ottawa.

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney made the announcement on Wednesday and said that Canada has “long been committed to a two-state solution” that would see an independent Palestinian state “living side by side with the State of Israel in peace and security.”

The move follows similar announcements by France, which has said it will recognize a Palestinian state in September, and the UK, which has said that it will too if Israel does not meet conditions that include agreeing to a ceasefire in Gaza.

They're taking a play out of the Trump 1.0 playback, which makes it all the more interesting.

Why hasn't Donny done this or even threatened massive tariffs like he did with Brazil? Or the postion he's taking neither India over their support for Russia? Instead, he's now threatening Canada when they're simply doing what he's incapable of in the Gaza situation.

It's clear who wants the conflict to end. If Trump is to be taken seriously, he should apply the same pressure on Bibi

[tommy156]

But of course trump won't be applying any pressure on Netanyahu. They're authoritarian besties who love watching poor people suffer and die.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

They're taking a play out of the Trump 1.0 playback, which makes it all the more interesting.

Why hasn't Donny done this or even threatened massive tariffs like he did with Brazil? Or the postion he's taking neither India over their support for Russia? Instead, he's now threatening Canada when they're simply doing what he's incapable of in the Gaza situation.

It's clear who wants the conflict to end. If Trump is to be taken seriously, he should apply the same pressure on Bibi

useless posturing. has no weight at all. so if Canada France and the UK proclaim Gaza a nation are they going to attack Israel?


of course not!


the Palestinians are their own worst enemy. they could have had a nation in 1948 the problem is that British mandate for unwinding the British Empire also called for a nation of Israel which the Arab nations and Palestinians would not tolerate.


so here we are nearly 80 years later and HAMAS is the instigator not Israel. none of this would be happening without Oct 7th.

[HDGristle]

More weight than Trump. Value wise. Not by mass and volume

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

More weight than Trump. Value wise. Not by mass and volume

it's not Trump's GAZA mess it's HAMAS' GAZA mess

this has zero weight. Israel doesn't care one fuck what the UK, Canada and the French say.

so what are they going to do? declare war on Israel? occupy GAZA themselves?


useless saber rattling. nothing burger.

[HDGristle]

By failing to stop it and reign in Bibi, he owns it.

You don't have to agree or like it.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

By failing to stop it and reign in Bibi, he owns it.

You don't have to agree or like it.

stop what? Biden was president in 2023 so Oct 7th is HIS mess. why didn't tough guy Joe stop the Evil Bibi?

why does Bibi need to be reigned in? "massacring" those innocent people only wanting food that HAMAS uses as human shields for terrorism?


it's amusing how people are so desperate to blame anything on Trump. even the shit he didn't cause


bahahahaha

[HDGristle]

https://theconversation.com/why-dona...nd-gaza-262241

He owns these failures every day they continue

[Thickandnasty994]

Of course no one mentions that there have been videos of HAMAS eating expensive meals while their own people starve…I am sure they aren’t stealing food from their own people!

[HDGristle]

Tangentially relevant. The food shortage is another symptom over the overall problem that Trump refuses to address.

There doesn't seem to be an appetite for peace. That's needed if Trump is going to get Gaza like he wanted.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://theconversation.com/why-dona...nd-gaza-262241

He owns these failures every day they continue

your article doesn't seem to blame Trump nor does it claim Trump "owns this"


why do you keep claiming that?

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Tangentially relevant. The food shortage is another symptom over the overall problem that Trump refuses to address.

There doesn't seem to be an appetite for peace. That's needed if Trump is going to get Gaza like he wanted.

and why should Trump address it? this isn't a problem for the US to solve.

[Jacuzzme]

After Oct 7 they’re lucky Israel didn’t carpet bomb the place, which is exactly what was called for and exactly the repercussions I’d expect the aggressor to face if it happened in the US.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

After Oct 7 they’re lucky Israel didn’t carpet bomb the place, which is exactly what was called for and exactly the repercussions I’d expect the aggressor to face if it happened in the US.

interesting that everyone seems to ignore the real instigator, HAMAS and tries to paint Israel as the aggressor bad guy.


all this talk of genocide by Israel is laughable. if Israel wanted to eliminate the Palestinians they would have done it decades ago. they not only allowed Gaza to exist they had hoped it would finally stabilize the region.

[HDGristle]

Hamas AND Israel are culpable, Waco. But now so is Trump.

His laxk of any real efforts to reign in Israel leave him complicit in death of many Palestinians. Just as Trump forced tbe hands of the world with the Jerusalem decision, the UK, France and Canada may force others as well by if they recognize the Palestinian state.

[HDGristle]

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