Some pain may be coming to rural area grocery stores

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Devo

I'm not reading shit.

Sometimes you do though. And when you do it allows for a more cordial, more effective and satisfying discussion.

Since we're talking about neighbors and rural kin, rednecks, farmers and salt of the earth folks who do rely on this kind of assistance let's get into it. It's the good, Christian thing to do to provide some temporary support, no?

Do you want local grocers to go under? Do you want those jobs and that economic activity lost? Folks moving to chase low-paying jobs? The tax bade for already small counties to shink even further?

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Devo

I'm not reading shit.

That explains a lot.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Sometimes you do though. And when you do it allows for a more cordial, more effective and satisfying discussion.

Since we're talking about neighbors and rural kin, rednecks, farmers and salt of the earth folks who do rely on this kind of assistance let's get into it. It's the good, Christian thing to do to provide some temporary support, no?

Do you want local grocers to go under? Do you want those jobs and that economic activity lost? Folks moving to chase low-paying jobs? The tax bade for already small counties to shink even further?

I wast through parts of Eastern PA, east of State College, long valleys, lots of farms, farm supply businesses basically taken over by the Amish.

Lots of caves, lots of small towns with a fully functioning local economy, shoe stores, grocery stores, hardware, etc, kind of like stepping back to the 50s.

What you didn't see?

Walmarts.

Dollar stores.

Too small, too self sufficient.

Are rural grocery stores dying because you have a dollar store of some type in every town between on every rural highway?

In my area, there are 10 within a 5 mile radius.

OR more, I've lost count.

Shop and Save is closing stores around the PGH area, honestly, the one nearest me is INSANE in pricing, like Giant Eagle on Steroids, but unable to match GE on sale items.

Part of this is the shift in the economy to mega stores, we got an ALDI recently, its the PLACE for low cost produce, and other stuff, bread, dairy, all excellently priced.

Sure I use the local store, they used to be lower than average on meat, but, they are losing that market to the bigger buyers who can afford to sell it for less.

When I go shopping, sometime hitting Aldi, GE, and then the locals, I'll see the same people at all three, as you can got to all three about 2 miles total apart.

Times change, and small businesses get fucked, its always been that way.

I have equipment in my shop, that my dad bought from a man whose business was from the 10s, and 20's, and was old, when my dad started his business in the early 60s.

His business started out as a carriage works.

Good, well made American machinery thats functional 100 years later, that's how deep our local roots go.

In 100 years, that will be impossible.

Times change.

[HDGristle]

Ah, so buy local and support the neighbors gives way to low prices pretty quickly.

[Old_Timer_68]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

If you had read the linked page you would know.

Who is not eligible? Some categories of people are not eligible for SNAP regardless of their income or assets, such as individuals who are on strike, all people without a documented immigration status, some students attending college more than half time,[6] certain immigrants with lawful immigration statuses,[7] and certain people with drug-related felony convictions in some states. Many adults aged 18 to 54 who do not have children in the home and who do not have disabilities are limited to three months of SNAP benefits every three years in many areas of the country, and states have broad authority to extend work requirements to many other SNAP households. (See box, “The Three-Month Time Limit.”)

You conveniently leave out so-called asylum seekers. Having an active asylum case gives them a documented (albeit temporary) status, making them eligible for SNAP, among many other taxpayer funded programs. Given the fact that over 90% of asylum cases are found to be invalid, this is yet another grift by the Left.

[Old_Timer_68]

Rural folks on welfare? Lol...

[Old_Timer_68]

Ah yes, ad hominem from the peanut gallery lol

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Old_Timer_68

Rural folks on welfare? Lol...

Lots and lots of rural folks are on welfare. 28.5% of rural families receive some form of government assistance, according to Google.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Old_Timer_68

You conveniently leave out so-called asylum seekers. Having an active asylum case gives them a documented (albeit temporary) status, making them eligible for SNAP, among many other taxpayer funded programs. Given the fact that over 90% of asylum cases are found to be invalid, this is yet another grift by the Left.

Eh, not quite.

https://asaptogether.org/en/food/

Now, if you happen to have some statistics on what % of the population of asylum seekers have a status that is eligible for SNAP benefits and also happen to be rural and shop at rural grocery stores we might have a fun discussion

[Old_Timer_68]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Eh, not quite.

https://asaptogether.org/en/food/

Now, if you happen to have some statistics on what % of the population of asylum seekers have a status that is eligible for SNAP benefits and also happen to be rural and shop at rural grocery stores we might have a fun discussion

you also conveniently left out those on Temporary Protected Status. Also, even the site you posted stated Illinois & Washington give SNAP to Asylum seekers.
Looks like Colorado also has exceptions:

https://hungerfreecolorado.org/servi...-mixed-status/

Interesting that you posted the website of an NGO....since when are NGO's considered to be an authority on the subject?

[Old_Timer_68]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Eh, not quite.

https://asaptogether.org/en/food/

Now, if you happen to have some statistics on what % of the population of asylum seekers have a status that is eligible for SNAP benefits and also happen to be rural and shop at rural grocery stores we might have a fun discussion

You're not going to see many asylum seekers in rural areas. We don't have the infrastructure. I know, your comment was only meant to be snarky, but I felt it best to point out the foolishness of it.
The largest change coming to SNAP is requiring able-bodied people to work 20 hours/week. Seriously, if an adult, who has no disabilities, isn't elderly and has no small children to take care of, can't work 20 hours/week, they need to reexamine their life choices.

[oldman2525]

Originally Posted by Old_Timer_68

You're not going to see many asylum seekers in rural areas. We don't have the infrastructure. I know, your comment was only meant to be snarky, but I felt it best to point out the foolishness of it.
The largest change coming to SNAP is requiring able-bodied people to work 20 hours/week. Seriously, if an adult, who has no disabilities, isn't elderly and has no small children to take care of, can't work 20 hours/week, they need to reexamine their life choices.

Quality posts sir, u should come here more often, it's quite hilarious how the left loves to throw shit against the walls hoping it sticks

Dont expect certain posters to ever admit they are wrong though, we have one who is a cross between a lawyer, a politician and a super genius. And a few more who just throw crap out there hoping someone calls them a bannable remark so they can hit the rtm button

Just enjoy their game, it's all they have to do...

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by oldman2525

Quality posts sir, u should come here more often, it's quite hilarious how the left loves to throw shit against the walls hoping it sticks

Dont expect certain posters to ever admit they are wrong though, we have one who is a cross between a lawyer, a politician and a super genius. And a few more who just throw crap out there hoping someone calls them a bannable remark so they can hit the rtm button

Just enjoy their game, it's all they have to do...

I find that this particular argument goes both ways. Especially in the national politics forum.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Old_Timer_68

you also conveniently left out those on Temporary Protected Status. Also, even the site you posted stated Illinois & Washington give SNAP to Asylum seekers.
Looks like Colorado also has exceptions:

https://hungerfreecolorado.org/servi...-mixed-status/

Interesting that you posted the website of an NGO....since when are NGO's considered to be an authority on the subject?

I didn't conveniently leave them out. That would be one of the other statuses.

Now, since this thread is about pain for rural grocery stores... do you have anything on point?

The Center for Rural Affairs hasidentified over 100 zip codesqualifying as food deserts, characterized by factors such as distance from grocery stores, household income and access to healthy options. Elwood residents reported inconsistent access to healthy staple items at the local Dollar General.

Food desserts, like the one in Elwood, Nebraska are becoming more common. Dollar stores, especially Dollar General, do not provide folks with reliable access to good, healthy food.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Old_Timer_68

The largest change coming to SNAP is requiring able-bodied people to work 20 hours/week. Seriously, if an adult, who has no disabilities, isn't elderly and has no small children to take care of, can't work 20 hours/week, they need to reexamine their life choices.

Of course that's the narrative they want us all fighting with each other about. But that won't be the reality. There just aren't that many people in the "able-bodied people to work 20 hours/week" category. The sheer size of the cuts to SNAP alone should tip you off as to who is going to get got.