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07-20-2025, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
List these pollsters out and their numbers.
I want you to tell me which pollsters I think are credible since you say you know.
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It doesn't matter which polls you believe are legit and which are false, because you aren't the sole arbiter of anything. Like any other MAGA, you only like polls that tell you what you want to hear anyway, so truly, and in all sincerity, it doesn't matter what you think.
Obviously, the tracker that Gristle listed above is the one to watch, because it's a real time aggregate of all polls. And that shows trump's net approval rating is -14 points.
As of today (7/20/25), 41% approve, 55% disapprove and 4% unsure. Thems the facts.
https://www.economist.com/interactiv...proval-tracker
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07-20-2025, 01:35 PM
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Nope sorry.
For example, Rasmussen said potato head Joe would win in 20 and almost % nailed the popular vote %. They have credibility.
You don’t understand the polling industry. Most don’t.
Please feel free to try again.
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07-20-2025, 02:17 PM
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A real time aggregate of all polls is far more accurate than any one, single poll. And they all show trump under water - as much as it pains you to admit that.
By the way, most polls predicted a Biden win in 2020. It wasn't rocket science. The only POTUS ranked lower than trump 2.0 currently, was trump 1.0.
A ham sandwich could have beaten trump in 2020.
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07-20-2025, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy156
A real time aggregate of all polls is far more accurate than any one, single poll.
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Aggregates generally gather data points together and provide a middle ground, potentially minimizing outliers.
However a single input can be more accurate if it comes from a reliable or expert source, while the aggregate includes noisy or uninformed inputs.
In other words unless the aggregate nails it, some of the individual data points are closer to the actual result.
So you are wrong.
There’s some good free statistics classes people can enroll in to learn or even brush up. Check em out and let us know ok?
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07-20-2025, 06:50 PM
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And you are not the sole arbiter of which polls are legit, and which are not.
Besides, the overwhelming majority of all polls everywhere show trump to be in the negative. Face facts, they just don't like your boy that way. They disapprove.
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07-20-2025, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy156
And you are not the sole arbiter of which polls are legit, and which are not.
Besides, the overwhelming majority of all polls everywhere show trump to be in the negative. Face facts, they just don't like your boy that way. They disapprove.
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The majority of polls said Trump was going to lose both the popular and electoral college in 2024. And almost 100% of pollsters predicted Trump to lose in ‘16.
How’d that work out for the pollsters?
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07-21-2025, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
The majority of polls said Trump was going to lose both the popular and electoral college in 2024. And almost 100% of pollsters predicted Trump to lose in ‘16.
How’d that work out for the pollsters?
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fair point, but you'd be less than ingenuous to not acknowledge that Trumps crowd are NOT happy with two things. Tariffs and the up and down that's causing in the markets, and also the whole MAGA team about Epstein and the conspiracy crew- now being told, "nahh the dems were right all along, or that's so much of a conspiracy, we cannot let the genie out of the bottle".
It's ok, but thinking that the polls show the GOP up is NOT what in general all polls as aggregates are saying. Hell, most of the Red State GOPS are facing serious outrage at town halls and worse, saying they didn't realize that they voted for defunding public services etc., while they sit on the sidelines and watch hospitals going out of business in rural america and food protection for young families and children being tossed out, in favor a tax break for the wealthy. Nahh....there isn't too many people who aren't already wealthy happy with that outcome.
The Chickens will come home to roost-
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07-21-2025, 01:09 PM
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fair point, but you'd be less than ingenuous to not acknowledge that Trumps crowd are NOT happy with two things. Tariffs and the up and down that's causing in the markets, and also the whole MAGA team about Epstein and the conspiracy crew- now being told, "nahh the dems were right all along, or that's so much of a conspiracy, we cannot let the genie out of the bottle".
It's ok, but thinking that the polls show the GOP up is NOT what in general all polls as aggregates are saying. Hell, most of the Red State GOPS are facing serious outrage at town halls and worse, saying they didn't realize that they voted for defunding public services etc., while they sit on the sidelines and watch hospitals going out of business in rural america and food protection for young families and children being tossed out, in favor a tax break for the wealthy. Nahh....there isn't too many people who aren't already wealthy happy with that outcome.
The Chickens will come home to roost-
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Sorry no. Trumps base is as solid as ever.
Dems have never supported Trump. If you want to dig into Independents you may or may not find something there.
As of yesterday.
Trump's Approval among Republicans Average Per Decision Desk
Now:
Approve: 88.2% (+5.7)
Disapprove: 10.7% (-4.2)
May 1st
Approve: 82.5%
Disapprove: 14.9%
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07-21-2025, 09:02 PM
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07-21-2025, 09:50 PM
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... CBS NEWS! ...  ...
... They're honest...
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07-22-2025, 05:23 AM
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183 days into Donald Trump's term
The president's net approval rating is -14%, down 1.6 points since last week.
41% approve, 55% disapprove, 4% not sure
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https://www.economist.com/interactiv...proval-tracker
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07-22-2025, 08:51 AM
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the usual suspects are always all in. Absolutism. Its going to be the same ppl clutching their chests in disbelief in the coming elections. But hey- if it makes you sleep better.....
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07-22-2025, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
the usual suspects are always all in. Absolutism. Its going to be the same ppl clutching their chests in disbelief in the coming elections. But hey- if it makes you sleep better.....
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70% of independents now disapprove. The blue wave is coming (unless of course trump's pet SCOTUS allows him to go full Nazi and suspend the midterms - which wouldn't surprise me in the least).
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