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			Mega_______ Magas, when did America become not Great to you?   
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The Emancipation Proclamation, 19th amendment, the Great Depression, JFK the first Catholic president, "Great Society" initiative, Watergate, The Iran–Contra affair, White-water scandal, Clinton's BJ, the missing WMD(s) of the first Gulf War, the Great Recession, or was it electing the first Black President? 
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			06-24-2025, 09:53 PM
			
			
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From a grammar standpoint, you should say “which country….”
 
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			06-25-2025, 10:09 AM
			
			
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Thank you for the correction. Now answer the question!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-25-2025, 10:13 AM
			
			
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Please tell me how 47 is addressing this?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-25-2025, 10:27 AM
			
			
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			MAGA is just mad that old, white men no longer have 100% of the power here.  They'll hem and haw and beat around the bush in dozens of ways, but that's literally the alpha and omega for them. 
 
The current MAGA movement began not when Obama was first elected, but when he got re-elected.  2008 made them furious; 2012 made them lose their minds.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-25-2025, 12:42 PM
			
			
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The “Golden Era”. He’s been talking about it for a year. Look what’s happening in the banking system and what countries are doing. They’re hoarding gold. Putin kicked the Central Banks out of Russia and returned the Ruble to the gold standard years ago. The BRICS countries are dumping treasuries and the USD. Pay attention Ratt. Trump calls Powell an idiot. Created the External Revenue Service. No taxes on tips, overtime and SS. A new financial and monetary system is coming.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-25-2025, 12:47 PM
			
			
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			Lol.  If you say so.  The "no taxes on tips, overtime and SS" will never happen, btw.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-25-2025, 03:27 PM
			
			
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				Lol.  If you say so.  The "no taxes on tips, overtime and SS" will never happen, btw. 
			
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I’ll bookmark this. It’s in the BBB and will pass.  But I can’t remember when you had something right.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-25-2025, 04:15 PM
			
			
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				I’ll bookmark this. It’s in the BBB and will pass.  But I can’t remember when you had something right. 
			
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The Senate isn't going to pass the BBB as written and passed by the House.  Wait and see.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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Sure it will.....in 2 weeks
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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The parliamentarian has been pulling crap out of that bill since it made its way past the house. Not surprising if you have a majority and Trump has some sort of magical spell he puts over top of the GOP followers in there. But the majority of the little spicy things he added, those are not going to get pased on, but thrown out.  The infamous Byrd bath is doing what it's supposed to do.  
 
The way they challenge it is in a meeting with the Senate parliamentarian, Elizabeth MacDonough. Because the OBBB is being administered under budget reconciliation, there are strict rules governing what can and cannot be passed while qualifying for a straight majority vote, so Democrats lack the numbers to block it. In most cases, the parliamentarian looks at whether provisions have a purely budgetary purpose, rather than policy dressed up as a budget item. (This is known as the Byrd Rule)
 
Chopping out lots of Bologna such as million dollar bonds for anyone challenging laws, the ability for non-ice officials to arrest ppl, changes in policy to keep the executive office from being sued, or the eliminations of things like consumer protections - a snake oil salesman's wet dream - all going to be cut from this BBB
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				The parliamentarian has been pulling crap out of that bill since it made its way past the house. Not surprising if you have a majority and Trump has some sort of magical spell he puts over top of the GOP followers in there. But the majority of the little spicy things he added, those are not going to get pased on, but thrown out.  The infamous Byrd bath is doing what it's supposed to do.   
 
The way they challenge it is in a meeting with the Senate parliamentarian, Elizabeth MacDonough. Because the OBBB is being administered under budget reconciliation, there are strict rules governing what can and cannot be passed while qualifying for a straight majority vote, so Democrats lack the numbers to block it. In most cases, the parliamentarian looks at whether provisions have a purely budgetary purpose, rather than policy dressed up as a budget item. (This is known as the Byrd Rule) 
 
Chopping out lots of Bologna such as million dollar bonds for anyone challenging laws, the ability for non-ice officials to arrest ppl, changes in policy to keep the executive office from being sued, or the eliminations of things like consumer protections - a snake oil salesman's wet dream - all going to be cut from this BBB 
			
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The tax cuts will stay.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			You hurl MAGA slurs at us and you expect us to answer your questions? 
Try having an actual discussion, and not throwing fake accusations about us on the wall, and expecting us to answer you............
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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