Signs of a bust

[TylerDFight1]

Question that I hope we can make into a discussion to help better prepare ourselves when we go out. When going to a location for an appointment, what are some signs that the place is about to be busted?

[Unique_Carpenter]

Doughnut delivery vehicle?

Ok, seriously there's no way to know.
Do your research.
And, do more research.

[Michael8219]

Signs of a healthy bust include even-toned, smooth skin without irritation. Breasts should feel warm and consistent in temperature, and there should be minimal or predictable breast pain, especially before your menstrual cycle. It's also normal for breasts to have a natural, slightly bumpy texture.

If you notice any sudden changes in appearance, texture, or temperature, or if you experience nipple discharge or pain that's not predictable, it's important to consult with a healthcare professional.

I consider myself somewhat of a bust connoisseur. I am available for outcalls for all women 18 to 88. If you’re nursing or just want to pretend you’re nursing I can be there in 30 minutes or less. If not, it’s free.

[biomed1]

Of Guideline # 6 . . .

#6 - Respect the topics presented by those who start a thread. Attempts to derail a thread or change it's direction is referred to as thread hijack and will be discouraged. Attempts to guide a thread in the right direction are appreciated, while responses to posts which hijack a thread are not.

[Fizley]

For me I get a spiny sense. Usually the profile online are too good to be true.

1. Underage ads
2. A provider who leaves the door open and hides out on the other side of the bed so she cannot be touched.
3. Weird text messages that try to get you to talk about acts for $.

Realistically, every time you go in there is a risk. You can minimize the risk by seeing welled reviewed providers.

If you walk into room that is a sting, your screwed. When incomes to trial, they will put up on the screen, the ad. A PD person will testify that has been an official PD number and hasn't been used in months. They will point out in the ad the donation amount, then reveal the $$in your pocket matches the ad donation amount.

It will then become your position to prove you were there for other reasons.

[MarcellusWalluz]

It's always good to drive around the block and look in all parking lots. Cops will meet near (usually on the same block) a target to prepare before a strike.

[NewNM505]

Originally Posted by MarcellusWalluz

It's always good to drive around the block and look in all parking lots. Cops will meet near (usually on the same block) a target to prepare before a strike.

PDs and other agencies tend to have a fleet of the same type of vehicles. So keep an eye out for gatherings of like makes and models of the same cars/trucks. And for the unmarked ones they will be some neutral/dark color. Don't be afraid to cloverleaf out from the area and check a couple of blocks away as well, they're going to congregate in larger parking lots that can hold their numbers as well as try to blend into the crowd of vehicles in the lots.

[Mr69Jones]

In this hobby there is always the possibility of what if it's LE. How avoid this situation? An ad that you never seen before, especially if she's very attractive. Never TOFTT unless you absolutely sure she's not LE. When you get to the parking lot, trust your instincts. Do not go into that room unless you sure that it's not LE. Frankly, I'm more afraid of getting scam. She's not the one you saw in the ad or some john hanging around ready to rob you.

[johnj5888]

i have walked away from a few. I notice in one case the same car kept driving through the lot looking at everyone sitting in cars. The same two guys moved a truck and showed backup less than two min later. The person i was to meetup with was from out of state and i looked at all the parked cars for plates from her state and found none. She badgered me to talk about money or activities and i would only be very vague. I did enjoy pulling out of the lot and parking over one lot letting her know it looked like cops where all around her hotel and then saw the same two guys run out and get in the same car. I have had a few instances where it just felt off and i called it quits. I always show up early and check the lot and lobby and surrounding areas for people in car and vans.

[Pangolier]

Originally Posted by TylerDFight1

Question that I hope we can make into a discussion to help better prepare ourselves when we go out. When going to a location for an appointment, what are some signs that the place is about to be busted?

I don't think there's a universal answer, because it depends on the setting. Is this a hotel, a woman's apartment, a massage parlor, or somewhere else?


Your best bet is to know proper communication "etiquette." Unless the cops want to fabricate evidence, they aren't going to take you downtown without enough evidence to make a charge stick in court. Let's say the cops are holding a sting at a hotel. Well let's suppose the bellhop goes to the wrong room by accident, or another guests orders room service from the kitchen and provides the incorrect room number, meaning the server knocks on the cop's room door. Do you think the cops are going to tackle the hotel employee and slam him to the ground as soon as the undercover lady answers the door? Same with you; if you have followed the "correct procedures", they won't be inclined to take you to jail with insufficient evidence. Just showing up to an incall is not enough, because they won't be able to argue beyond reasonable doubt based on that fact alone.


If you have discussed money or activities via remote means, then you've already gotten yourself into trouble.

[drinkindreamin]

As the Miranda rights say, you have the right to remain silent. Do that, don’t say jack fuckin shit. Her ad should say everything that you should need to know. Show up early, investigate the property, watch the activity from your vehicle. Dont give cops reason to pull you over. Personally I do all background check with all the information I can find on the chick. 100% verification is knowing her name and possible numbers that match name, at least look for a pattern or reviews. I have other things I look for as well. Primarily don’t discuss acts for money. People meeting in hotels all though America. Most of all don’t give police a reason to question you.

[Fizley]

Originally Posted by drinkindreamin

As the Miranda rights say, you have the right to remain silent. Do that, don’t say jack fuckin shit. Her ad should say everything that you should need to know. Show up early, investigate the property, watch the activity from your vehicle. Dont give cops reason to pull you over. Personally I do all background check with all the information I can find on the chick. 100% verification is knowing her name and possible numbers that match name, at least look for a pattern or reviews. I have other things I look for as well. Primarily don’t discuss acts for money. People meeting in hotels all though America. Most of all don’t give police a reason to question you.

You are correct and I agree the provider ad should tell you everything you know, but realistically most do not today. Most providers barely provide enough information to determine which city they are in.

[Jannisary]

Originally Posted by TylerDFight1

Question that I hope we can make into a discussion to help better prepare ourselves when we go out. When going to a location for an appointment, what are some signs that the place is about to be busted?

There are a lot of variables at play.

First, if you're meeting an escort at her infall, you should have done your research on her before ever contacting her. Does she have reviews, is she using the same number as usual, etc.

I try to get to the area of the meeting early so that I can drive around the area and see if anything suspicious. If you are walking into a incall john sting though, you might not see anything suspicious in the parking lot or area around the hotel or apartment.

As has already been mentioned, LE will try and get you to talk about money and services. Remember you are paying for her time and company and that is it. If they try push for specifics, and connect money and sex acts that is a huge red flag.

Another thing is what happens when you arrive for the appointment. It is almost cliche at this point, but in this industry the standard expected greeting when you first walk into the appointment is a quick hello followed by a hug and kiss by the escort. Even a non kissing escort will move in for the hug, though she'll probably turn her head a bit to avoid kissing. The point is though, they initiate physical personal contact between themselves and you. On the other hand a female police officer playing dress up looking to bust you will generally try to keep a distance between the two of you while also trying to get you to say something incriminating.

[GhostRiderYYZ]

Another decent sign that indicates possible raid/bust is some Spa/Amp (henceforth called a SPAMP) gets raided & shut down then about 2 weeks - 1 month later the location re-opens.

I would be leery of this location for a while.

[balibago]

On my very first escort back in 1992, I carried a frequency counter which detects near field radio energy. That meant she's wired. I thought about using an etch a sketch to communicate with the woman, simply refusing to talk to her. I'd never use incall anymore unless you've used her before. If you got the time get her address and monitor the activities of what's happening there. Somethings wrong when a guy goes in but doesn't come out. Again you can plan a date with her and bring the etch a sketch and explain to her why you are using it. The woman you meet must be willing to compromise herself as well. Make it as hard as possible for those misguided public officials to succeed both for yourself as well as the other hobbyists.