Habeas Corpus

[bambino]

Noem was right

The Constitution vested Lincoln, as it does all Presidents, with broad authority to respond to an existential emergency. But Trump has yet to show that the nation faces one. The Supreme Court has not yet addressed the question of whether a President can suspend the writ of habeas corpus, nor what qualifies as a “rebellion or invasion.” During the Civil War, the Supreme Court never stopped Lincoln, and no President has since tried to suspend habeas on his own. Should the Trump White House take that fateful step, claiming that illegal immigration amounts to an invasion, the Court will also have to decide whether the judiciary can overturn his decision. But it should not rely on Abraham Lincoln and the Civil War as proof that only Congress can suspend habeas corpus.

[Unique_Carpenter]

The Civil War 1863 suspension act was repealed.
So back to the original constitutional clause in Article 1, Section 9.

There have been multiple court cases where folks try to expand and /or restrict the role of Habeas Corpus. The Supremes frequently state that the "scope" of HA is what it was at the time of the Constitution's ratification.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

The Civil War 1863 suspension act was repealed.
So back to the original constitutional clause in Article 1, Section 9.

There have been multiple court cases where folks try to expand and /or restrict the role of Habeas Corpus. The Supremes frequently state that the "scope" of HA is what it was at the time of the Constitution's ratification.

SCOTUS never gave a final ruling on it. Lincoln revoked it unilaterally in 1861. Congress didn’t act until 1863. SCOTUS hasn’t defined what an invasion is. Allied forces invaded Normandy with 160,000 troops. We were invaded by 10 million + illegals. Who knows what they would decide. Mebbe Trump will force their hand. Mebbe he won’t.

[HDGristle]

Reaching hard there, Bam. Not quite as far as Dangerously Dumb Noem did... but hope you stretched first.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world...it/ar-AA1FeMY0

[bambino]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Reaching hard there, Bam. Not quite as far as Dangerously Dumb Noem did... but hope you stretched first.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world...it/ar-AA1FeMY0

No reach, fact. Your lefty hit pieces are dumb. They always are.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by bambino

Noem was right.

No, she wasn't.

Habeas Corpus is not a "constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country". That's not at all what Habeas Corpus is. In fact, that's the polar opposite of what it is. It's not a right the President has. It's a right the people have.

[1#Ratt]

Originally Posted by bambino

She didn’t say other Presidents suspended it either. Go back and read the definition of what defines a recession while youre at it. But hey, if this little Diddy gives you, the OP and Tommy a hardon, more power to you. Yinz have to grasp on to something I guess.

Both President Bush and President Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during times of war.
President Lincoln suspended habeas corpus unilaterally, while President Bush had Congress's approval.
Lincoln's suspension applied to U.S. citizens, while Bush's law targeted only foreign 'enemy combatants.'

So how was she wrong? you read into it what you wanted. she wasn't wrong you are for saying she was.
Here educate yourself https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r...,%20widespread,
But enough with you

Only a fool argues with a fool

[1#Ratt]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://www.fox2detroit.com/video/1645337

Great breakdown by Fox Detroit

WOW According to that fox new program someone is wrong again.
For everyone's education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas..._United_States

[HDGristle]

It's pretty clear that Noem's definition was one of the worst answers by a government official this year.

She hasn't cosplayed as a clown yet, but she's certainly got the act down pat for when she decides to don the makeup, nose and shoes

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

It's pretty clear that Noem's definition was one of the worst answers by a government official this year.

She hasn't cosplayed as a clown yet, but she's certainly got the act down pat for when she decides to don the makeup, nose and shoes

amusing. this year? what about the last 4 years?

bahahahaaaaa

Noem is right. Habeas Corpus only applies to US Citizens not miscreants from south east north west buffuckistan

i find it amusing you besmirch the Lord Donald Emperor of all you know to remove these illegal wretches from my glorious MAGA America

but keep trying. i find it amusing

[HDGristle]

I'm besmirching Noem... and quite bigly. It's ok to admit she was wrong. And it's funny asf and ok to laugh along with us about it.

https://cagle.com/cartoonist/monte-w...-habeas-corpus

[Unique_Carpenter]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

... i find it amusing you besmirch the God Donald Emperor of all you know to remove these illegal wretches from my glorious MAGA America...

FTFY

And, Noem is the court clown.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I'm besmirching Noem... and quite bigly. It's ok to admit she was wrong. And it's funny asf and ok to laugh along with us about it.

https://cagle.com/cartoonist/monte-w...-habeas-corpus

And it just keeps getting funnier the longer they try to claim she was right. Her answer to "what is Habeas Corpus?" sounded like something a below average 3rd grader would say.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

FTFY

And, Noem is the court clown.

I prefer Lord Emperor. Closer to reality and has a better ring to it.

[HDGristle]

Newsmax shredded Noem's ignorance

https://www.newsmax.com/estrich/habe...27/id/1212541/