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Old 05-22-2025, 09:08 PM   #31
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No, I’m just not an idiot.

That white house link you posted is full of lies and conjecture. It’s a total con job whose purpose is to convince suckers that the democrats are to blame rather than nature.

Way to drink the kool-aid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_lab_leak_theory
Many scenarios proposed for a lab leak are characteristic of conspiracy theories.
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Old 05-25-2025, 11:27 AM   #32
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None….but what happened first in Italy and then NYC was real and scary. I’d like to know real data. How many who died were overweight, very old or had serious health issues? My assumption is most.
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Old 05-25-2025, 05:01 PM   #33
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I know 3

One of them was my stepsons grandfather. He couldn't get the vaccine because he had serious health problems. He wanted it but the rest of his family was a bunch of deniers. Sure enough one of them brought it home to him and it killed him. And people talk about how you should have a choice. He didn't have a choice.
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Old 05-27-2025, 07:52 AM   #34
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Trump tested positive for infection with SARS_CoV2 virus. His doctors at Walter Reid Hospital gave Trump the Regeneron Mono clonal antibodies, Remdisivir and a steroid to control inflamation. Are you saying this was all fake and a setup?

https://www.science.org/content/arti...d-19-treatment
Quite Possible. Nothing surprises me these days when it comes to Political People.
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Old 05-27-2025, 08:55 AM   #35
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Quite Possible. Nothing surprises me these days when it comes to Political People.
Believe nothing!

Explain everything as a conspiracy.

Boogie on…
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Old 05-27-2025, 12:16 PM   #36
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Believe nothing!

Explain everything as a conspiracy.

Boogie on…
You can explain things however you wish.
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Old 05-27-2025, 01:14 PM   #37
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I prefer factual reporting. You?
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Old 05-27-2025, 04:34 PM   #38
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No, I’m just not an idiot.

That white house link you posted is full of lies and conjecture. It’s a total con job whose purpose is to convince suckers that the democrats are to blame rather than nature.

Way to drink the kool-aid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_lab_leak_theory
Many scenarios proposed for a lab leak are characteristic of conspiracy theories.

It is 99.9% sure that Covid-19 came from the lab. The only real question is on purpose or accidental.


There is no way Covid-19 would have spread that rapidly from an animal in a market. If you need proof just look at the way the latest round of Bird flu has infected just a few humans.
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Old 05-27-2025, 05:23 PM   #39
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It is 99.9% sure that Covid-19 came from the lab. The only real question is on purpose or accidental.


There is no way Covid-19 would have spread that rapidly from an animal in a market. If you need proof just look at the way the latest round of Bird flu has infected just a few humans.
And what special qualifications or education renders you an expert in this area.

The truth is that we will never really know where and how covid started but the history of infectious diseases tells us that they can and will spread in ways that humans can’t detect. Take the 1917 flu for example. There were no research labs in 1916 that could have engineered that virus but it spread widely and was deadly in its way. Or the zika virus, or measles, or AIDS. All viruses that have spread through humans. Hell the flu spreads around the world every year but no one is engineering a new flu strain in a lab year round.

Why is covid different, because people want there to be human causation because it gives meaning to the epidemic. This lab leak theory is weak sauce and is the worst kind of conspiracy theory.
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And what special qualifications or education renders you an expert in this area.

The truth is that we will never really know where and how covid started but the history of infectious diseases tells us that they can and will spread in ways that humans can’t detect. Take the 1917 flu for example. There were no research labs in 1916 that could have engineered that virus but it spread widely and was deadly in its way. Or the zika virus, or measles, or AIDS. All viruses that have spread through humans. Hell the flu spreads around the world every year but no one is engineering a new flu strain in a lab year round.

Why is covid different, because people want there to be human causation because it gives meaning to the epidemic. This lab leak theory is weak sauce and is the worst kind of conspiracy theory.

I farm and work around animals. It is always a concern to animal to human spreading. Fauci himself even said this early in the Covid-19 days in January and he wasn't concerned about it spreading. When it started to spread quickly it became quite obvious that it leaked from the lab.


The Spanish Flu just a mutation of flu that had been around. Measles totally different virus that doesn't mutate hardly at all.
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Old 05-27-2025, 06:28 PM   #41
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The report cited by CBS News in the link below was completed at the behest of the Biden administration and former CIA director William Burns. CIA assessed albeit with low confidence that a research-related origin in Wuhan China of the COVID-19 pandemic is more likely than a natural origin based on the available body of reporting.

http://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/cia-...ce-assessment/

Germany's foreign intelligence service believed there was a 80-90% chance that coronavirus accidentally leaked from a Chinese lab:

http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7vypq31z7o.amp

NIH subcontractor or grant funded gain of function research.

Congressional hearings concluded COVID originated from a lab leak in Wuhan.

White House has posted similar facts.

It don’t take a rocket surgeon to figure out where COVID originated. Or the requisite doctorate in virology that the lefties clamor for. Wait Fauci had a lot of degrees didn’t he? Let me get my double masks, 6 foot spacing pole, investments in test kits, Pfizer, and Moderna lined up. And throw out the first pitch at the Nationals game cuz I am the science.

Gimme a freakin break!

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“Man, you just click on that ol Wicked pedia man and it will tell you what ‘Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.’ That dang ol Newspeak I’ll tell you what. I read something on that Wicked pedia just this morning and Bill showed me where they changed that ol dang Wicked pedia this afternoon. I’ll tell you what even though Bill was in the army he told the truth man.”
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Old 05-27-2025, 07:23 PM   #42
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I’m not saying it’s for certain one way or the other. But when someone gives a 99% certitude on this question then I call bullshit.

Until they can get witnesses from the lab that supposedly leaked the covid virus then I am going to remain skeptical because everything and everyone else is going to be biased in one way or another.

But tell me this. If it was a leak from a lab did the trump administration know about it and why didn’t they take it more seriously?
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Old 05-27-2025, 07:33 PM   #43
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I prefer factual reporting. You?
Yeah, I prefer facts. Unfortunately, facts are sometimes hard to accept. During Covid the so called "Facts" delivered by Government shifted with the direction of the wind.
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Old 05-27-2025, 07:54 PM   #44
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But tell me this. If it was a leak from a lab did the trump administration know about it and why didn’t they take it more seriously?
I doubt the Trump administration knew but had suspicions with as much or less certainty as the CIA report mentioned by the CBS news link.

Remember China had everything locked down and that one doctor suspiciously died - probably talked too much.

I don’t think we’ll ever know 100%. Probably ~80% like the Germs say, lol.
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The truth is that we will never really know where and how covid started but the history of infectious diseases tells us that they can and will spread in ways that humans can’t detect. Take the 1917 flu for example. There were no research labs in 1916 that could have engineered that virus but it spread widely and was deadly in its way. Or the zika virus, or measles, or AIDS. All viruses that have spread through humans. Hell the flu spreads around the world every year but no one is engineering a new flu strain in a lab year round.
As usual, you're wrong. The Spanish influenza most likely started in the US with it's first large outbreak at Ft.Riley. The article indicates that it was in a western county or KS that it likely originated. And it was 1918.. not 1917.
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