Did You Notice What Vanished From The Atlantic's Narrative About the Hegseth Signal Story?

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by SecretE

Why is the US Government using Signal (or any other private service) to discuss any government related? I'm sure this sort of thing was going on before this admin, but it has to stop. Take some of that money DOGE is saving all of us, and invest in making a US Government only secure messaging system tied only to personnel who have .gov accounts. Then, you can't "accidentally" add a JOURNALIST to those conversations.

One might have to consider that an "unknown staffer", putting together a list of only about 20, 10 digit long, phone numbers "accidentally" included a known OMB journalist from the Atlantic. That's a galactic leap of faith step for anyone.

However, you might be on to something here. But where could the WH possibly find someone with uber tech supports skills, that has been a founder of multiple software startups to develop it. I mean, it's not like we need someone that is a rocket scientist, but it wouldn't hurt. Can't be all that hard to find someone like that if they just look or ask around a little. What about Craigslist?

But even then, you still have to solve for that random, "unknown staffer", putting together a list of only 20 phone numbers - which "accidentally" included a known raving and rabid OMB journalist from the Atlantic.

[Yssup Rider]

Defending the indefensible. We can discuss what “should have happened” and “how to keep things encrypted” all day long. Fact is, Hegseth, Waltz and the rest of those clowns didn’t do that and committed a massive security blunder.

Had this fuckup not been brought to light, do you think these idiots would have continued their group chats,on Signal?

Maybe they should have thought first?

Naaaaahhhhh! Truth.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

The word you are seeking is called "transparency" and the WH has been open and clear about what went down, to the best of their knowledge. Someone should be held accountable.

He's a hack without ethics in my book. Clearly, the whole affair smells like a set up from the git go.

Oh, I ain't seeking a word. The one you reference was pluperfectly shown. SecDef keeps on brilliantly displaying what a true idiot he is multiple times. Calling a report a liar when he knows full well that he had access to everything that little donny cluster fuck of a group had. The report did something that is very alien to maggie crowd. He didn't Deny! Deny! Deny! He rightly dropped the unredacted transcript that the WH already acknowledged.

And with your wild leaning rants here in the PS, I have never had any desire to read any book you pen. And as to your ethics, I don't use the skewed compass.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

One might have to consider that an "unknown staffer", putting together a list of only about 20, 10 digit long, phone numbers "accidentally" included a known OMB journalist from the Atlantic. That's a galactic leap of faith step for anyone.

However, you might be on to something here. But where could the WH possibly find someone with uber tech supports skills, that has been a founder of multiple software startups to develop it. I mean, it's not like we need someone that is a rocket scientist, but it wouldn't hurt. Can't be all that hard to find someone like that if they just look or ask around a little. What about Craigslist?

But even then, you still have to solve for that random, "unknown staffer", putting together a list of only 20 phone numbers - which "accidentally" included a known raving and rabid OMB journalist from the Atlantic.

Waltz responded: “A staffer wasn’t responsible. I take full responsibility. I built the group. My job is to make sure everything is coordinated.”

[HDGristle]

Waltz right now is the only one showing a semblance of accountability. And he isn't the one who did the inappropriate sharing.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

A nothing Burger? According to Trump Waltz won't put this type of information on Signal anymore.

If the information was not classified or sensitive how come Tulsi Gifford did not want to share it with Congress? Do you think the pilots of the F15's would want that information shared with a journalist from the Atlantic? According to Trump the Atlantic is going out of business. LOL.

Trump blamed it on new technology and suggested that Waltz won't be using Signal anymore. How hard is it to check a distribution list with less than 20 people? You would think that Waltz has never used Microsoft Outlook before. LOL. Just about everybody uses that or Google's Gmail.

If this had happened with Biden's Secretary of Defense Loyd Austin, the republicans would blame it on DEI and it would be on Fox news for six months.

why should she have? some retard reporter asking for comment isn't gonna get squat for a reply, this wasn't a congressional hearing.



who says it didn't happen on Biden's watch? unless it was a FOX reporter accidentally included the media at large would have covered it up and you'd never know it happened.



you did see the part that Biden's admin endorsed using signal yeah?

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Defending the indefensible. We can discuss what “should have happened” and “how to keep things encrypted” all day long. Fact is, Hegseth, Waltz and the rest of those clowns didn’t do that and committed a massive security blunder.

Had this fuckup not been brought to light, do you think these idiots would have continued their group chats,on Signal?

Maybe they should have thought first?

Naaaaahhhhh! Truth.

defending a nothingburger


why not? Biden's admin used it. once again boys and girls .. signal was not hacked. i find it amusing many are posting all these Pentagon warning stuff. yet Biden Admin used it for four years.

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Oh, I ain't seeking a word. The one you reference was pluperfectly shown. SecDef keeps on brilliantly displaying what a true idiot he is multiple times. Calling a report a liar when he knows full well that he had access to everything that little donny cluster fuck of a group had. The report did something that is very alien to maggie crowd. He didn't Deny! Deny! Deny! He rightly dropped the unredacted transcript that the WH already acknowledged.

And with your wild leaning rants here in the PS, I have never had any desire to read any book you pen. And as to your ethics, I don't use the skewed compass.

lol trying to throw Hegseth under the bus is laughable unless it was him that invited the wrong person. it wasn't.


the Atlantic intentionally sensationalized the material they accidentally got access to.

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Waltz right now is the only one showing a semblance of accountability. And he isn't the one who did the inappropriate sharing.

who did inappropriate sharing? Hegseth? no he didn't share anything actually top secret.


if Waltz now claims he was responsible for the invite list then even if there had been any top secret material shared by Hegseth since it was not his task to build the invite list it wouldn't be his fault


i'm so glad no one in this forum ever fucked up a meeting invite list ever! we are prefect .. yeah?


BAHHAAAA


NOTHINGBURGER

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Waltz right now is the only one showing a semblance of accountability. And he isn't the one who did the inappropriate sharing.

He gave Trump a public BBBJ when the details were coming out. Now Trump has thrown him under the bus.

The car date ended prematurely!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...l-chat-scandal

Not the Atlantic's doing, boys. No matter how you try to spin it, this is TOTALLY on the Turd Reich.

[Lantern2814]

Wrong as usual. This has been shown to be the Atlantic, and one reporter, lying again. But the usual suspects instantly grab onto it as gospel. Another swing and miss.

[The_Waco_Kid]

my reply to HDG's thread on this topic



https://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=106...&postcount=131







https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...ntic-goldberg/

More folks today realize that the biggest mistake was confirming a DUI Hire

sorry some of HDG's reply is private



the poll and the results are disingenuous by framing the chat as unsecured. the focus on Hegseth is also misguided at best at worst a typical political hit job. factor in Trump and it's obvious it's political. signal is a red herring there was no hack and the chat was secure. the data classified is irrelevant because everyone who was supposed to be invited was authorized to see it. Walz claims he managed the access list so it's his mistake. even The Atlantic's mistaken access is meaningless because they weren't going to pass it to the Rebels and it was useless without further details anyway. yes it's that simple.



Hegseth stays and should stay because Trump wants him to stay. and we all know Trump is stubborn so the safe bet is he'll double down on Hegseth. if Walz eventually gets thrown under the bus to make this go away then it's just another day in politics



bahahahhaaaaa

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

Wrong as usual. This has been shown to be the Atlantic, and one reporter, lying again. But the usual suspects instantly grab onto it as gospel. Another swing and miss.

... Too right, mate -- it IS the Atlantic's doing.
And THEY cannot keep their-own story straight.

Just one more reason that the American people
DO see this as a swing and miss...

### Salty

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

Wrong as usual. This has been shown to be the Atlantic, and one reporter, lying again. But the usual suspects instantly grab onto it as gospel. Another swing and miss.

Please provide some information that "shows" this is the Atlantic's doing, and not the massive fuckup we all know it to be.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

why should she have? some retard reporter asking for comment isn't gonna get squat for a reply, this wasn't a congressional hearing.





you did see the part that Biden's admin endorsed using signal yeah?

Tulsi G. did testify before Congress. Senator Mark Warner is chairman of the intelligence committee. It was Sen Warner that asked her if the information that Hegseth shared on the Signal Group chat was not classified then share it with Congress. Senator Warner is not some reporter.

Signal is okay to use but not for attack plans. You didn't hear Trump tell the Press that Waltz will not have to apologize and he won't be using Signal anymore. You did not hear Waltz reply "Yes Sir"?

If it was such a nothing burger why is Elon Musk helping out in a investigation to make sure something like this "Never Ever Happens Again". That comes straight from the mouth of our 27 year old press Secretary.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Tulsi G. did testify before Congress. Senator Mark Warner is chairman of the intelligence committee. It was Sen Warner that asked her if the information that Hegseth shared on the Signal Group chat was not classified then share it with Congress. Senator Warner is not some reporter.

Signal is okay to use but not for attack plans. You didn't hear Trump tell the Press that Waltz will not have to apologize and he won't be using Signal anymore. You did not hear Waltz reply "Yes Sir"?

If it was such a nothing burger why is Elon Musk helping out in a investigation to make sure something like this "Never Ever Happens Again". That comes straight from the mouth of our 27 year old press Secretary.

Lay it down and watch maga crawfishin

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

It's called Manning-TF-Up. It's something leaders do.

Originally Posted by RX792P

Waltz responded: “A staffer wasn’t responsible. I take full responsibility. I built the group. My job is to make sure everything is coordinated.”

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

...If it was such a nothing burger why is Elon Musk helping out in a investigation to make sure something like this "Never Ever Happens Again"...

Because the previous administration of President Auto-Pen screwed things up so severely. CISA "guidance", dated 12/18/2024, for example. Everything Auto-Pen and the azzhat minions touched was crud.

If I was doing a make-ready renovation of the WH and Government, writ large, after the previous occupants left, I would do it with a bulldozer and rebuild it from the ground up versus trying to slop on some bondo and touch up paint.