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Old 03-27-2025, 10:50 AM   #46
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let me remind you ....


Biden-era guidance encouraged use of Signal app by highly-targeted govt officials: 'Best practice'

'Adopt a free messaging application for secure communications that guarantees end-to-end encryption, such as Signal or similar apps,' 2024 CISA guidance reads

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...-best-practice


the app was not hacked. the app can encrypt data end to end. the app was never the issue. some staffer invited a contact he shouldn't have invited.





it's a nothing-burger.

there was no classified data in the chat. even The Atlantic's own post of the log shows that.

you do know that the mission itself was a success yes? would you have preferred it failed so you can claim Trump fucked up?

Now now. You know since your metric for veracity of truth is rated by viewers/clicks/likes, foxy ain't what the rest of the world is like. And you continually ignore bigger numbers from other news sources that happen to pass the sniff test on factual content and centeral weighted (*cough* *cought* ABC *cough*)

So, since you have not professed any connection to the spook biz, show us dear sir where an Open Source software package has the Blue Seal of Approval in the Military Intelligence community, NSA, CIA?

*ESPECIALLY* on unsecured cellphones?

You know such details that were post, and for the operation that it was for, are not suppose to be used on such devices. Regardless what little ol' link you pulled up on foxy. Give
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Old 03-28-2025, 05:40 AM   #47
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Now now You know since your metric for veracity of truth...
Dat's some interdasting edumacation ya gots dere.

Might I suggest boning up on: CISA recommendations from 2024, i.e. the previous administration of President Auto-Pen. Good reads fo-sho.

You know the CISA. AmmIrite? Dems da ones whut said the 2020 election wuz da most secur-ed in galactic his-story.

CISA urges switch to Signal-like encrypted messaging apps after telecom hacks December 18, 2024

Pentagon warned staffers against using Signal before White House chat leak March 25, 2025
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Old 03-28-2025, 05:59 AM   #48
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Petey definitely back on the sauce after this blunder. It keeps getting worse
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Old 03-28-2025, 06:51 AM   #49
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I don’t know that it will get much worse unless material new facts emerge. The administration is lucky the operation was a success and no US service members were killed or wounded. Maybe that shouldn’t be the metric, but it is just like the Afghanistan withdrawal was ultimately judged by the 13 service members who were killed.

Pete shouldn’t have been so forceful about his denials of anything improper being disclosed in the chat. Lawyers can and perhaps will battle over the legality of laying out specific timelines and weapon systems, but a lot of people who aren’t hard core MAGA will shrug it off.

Short term, Pete and Mike are on a short leash after this episode. They survive, but one more screwup and they are gone. JD’s prospects for 2028 may have taken a hit from those of us who hoped that maybe his isolationist tendencies were just a political show.

I like how Rubio is covering his ass now (the Pentagon SAYS the information Pete texted wasn’t classified). I don’t blame him.
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Old 03-28-2025, 07:38 AM   #50
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I don’t know that it will get much worse unless material new facts emerge. The administration is lucky the operation was a success and no US service members were killed or wounded. Maybe that shouldn’t be the metric, but it is just like the Afghanistan withdrawal was ultimately judged by the 13 service members who were killed.

Pete shouldn’t have been so forceful about his denials of anything improper being disclosed in the chat. Lawyers can and perhaps will battle over the legality of laying out specific timelines and weapon systems, but a lot of people who aren’t hard core MAGA will shrug it off.

Short term, Pete and Mike are on a short leash after this episode. They survive, but one more screwup and they are gone. JD’s prospects for 2028 may have taken a hit from those of us who hoped that maybe his isolationist tendencies were just a political show.

I like how Rubio is covering his ass now (the Pentagon SAYS the information Pete texted wasn’t classified). I don’t blame him.
The main reason I think that heads should roll is that in spite of all of the positives that emerged from the attack, the participants showed a naive attitude toward doing ANYTHING that could be used by the slime ball Democrats and their willing Lackeys in the Press to come up with anything to harm President Trumps Agenda.

In a world where perception is everything, every official in the Trump Administration has to be extra vigilant in assuring that nothing they do can be used by those whose agenda is to destroy President Trump.

With Democrats, you are dealing with those who are possibly the lowest form of political life on the Planet. Gas lighting, lying, and demagoguery are their universally accepted methods of gaining power. They rely on the stupidity of their voting base to believe any and everything they are fed.
They also rely on a corrupt and willing Press to spread their political puke to the masses.

You simply cannot trust any politician who has a D after his or her name.
So do not give them ammunition to fire back at you. If an official in the Trump Administration can not attend to that simple truth, they certainly do not need to be in a position of authority.
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Old 03-28-2025, 08:02 AM   #51
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Trump knew when he chose most of these people that he was getting inexperienced folks and that they were going to make mistakes. I think he is sticking with “his guys” for now because the fallout, while seemingly big at the moment, probably will have minimal longer term impact on his ability to pursue his longer term agenda.

At least that is the way it appears to me. We shall see if that is the way it plays out with this particular episode.
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Old 03-28-2025, 08:57 AM   #52
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Trump is an idiot. His guys (and ghouls) are dumber than he is. That’s the only metric that matters to him.

Hegseth may not be the worst, but he sure sucks up the most spotlight.

Like Trump, his entire media career is based on him being a loud mouthed asshole. That’s who Trump wanted. He’s not bright enough to have possibly seen any further potential in Hegseth. Because he’s just. That. Dumb.
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Old 03-28-2025, 12:01 PM   #53
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Okay, a successful mission with zero American casualties not being celebrated by the left.

No classified information disseminated according to all but one source, an unqualified journalist with an ongoing axe to grind. When asked, he will not provide proof.

Obviously a cabinet secretary did not set up this call. A staffer did. So why is a reporter held over from Biden on the access list. For leaks in the days of Biden past?

Why didn't Goldberg excuse himself and leave the call when he realized what was happening? Why did he sit on his story and then leak it to the democrats and press days later?

How come no one is talking about deportations now?

The Signal app was installed in the Biden era? How many leaks came from that?

Are the people who bought into this story chumps or idiots?
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Old 03-28-2025, 12:46 PM   #54
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Let's see some proof to support your conspiracy theories, Schwartzer.

Can't defend the indefensible. Even ECCIE MAGAs want Hegseth's head on a pike.
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Okay, a successful mission with zero American casualties not being celebrated by the left.

No classified information disseminated according to all but one source, an unqualified journalist with an ongoing axe to grind. When asked, he will not provide proof.

Obviously a cabinet secretary did not set up this call. A staffer did. So why is a reporter held over from Biden on the access list. For leaks in the days of Biden past?

Why didn't Goldberg excuse himself and leave the call when he realized what was happening? Why did he sit on his story and then leak it to the democrats and press days later?

How come no one is talking about deportations now?

The Signal app was installed in the Biden era? How many leaks came from that?

Are the people who bought into this story chumps or idiots?

Both.
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Old 03-28-2025, 03:10 PM   #56
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Now now. You know since your metric for veracity of truth is rated by viewers/clicks/likes, foxy ain't what the rest of the world is like. And you continually ignore bigger numbers from other news sources that happen to pass the sniff test on factual content and centeral weighted (*cough* *cought* ABC *cough*)

So, since you have not professed any connection to the spook biz, show us dear sir where an Open Source software package has the Blue Seal of Approval in the Military Intelligence community, NSA, CIA?

*ESPECIALLY* on unsecured cellphones?

You know such details that were post, and for the operation that it was for, are not suppose to be used on such devices. Regardless what little ol' link you pulled up on foxy. Give

you keep claiming insecure. not so and ignore the fact that signal does encrypt data which is why Biden's Admin encouraged using signal



can you prove unsecured cell phones? can you prove the session was hacked?



signal has nothing to do with it. Waltz (or he's covering for a staffer) invited someone who shouldn't have been invited.


yes boys and girls it's that simple and all the gum flapping by the usual suspects Democrats is an overcooked nothingburger



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I don’t know that it will get much worse unless material new facts emerge. The administration is lucky the operation was a success and no US service members were killed or wounded. Maybe that shouldn’t be the metric, but it is just like the Afghanistan withdrawal was ultimately judged by the 13 service members who were killed.

Pete shouldn’t have been so forceful about his denials of anything improper being disclosed in the chat. Lawyers can and perhaps will battle over the legality of laying out specific timelines and weapon systems, but a lot of people who aren’t hard core MAGA will shrug it off.

Short term, Pete and Mike are on a short leash after this episode. They survive, but one more screwup and they are gone. JD’s prospects for 2028 may have taken a hit from those of us who hoped that maybe his isolationist tendencies were just a political show.

I like how Rubio is covering his ass now (the Pentagon SAYS the information Pete texted wasn’t classified). I don’t blame him.



there was nothing improper disclosed. everyone seems to ignore the issue here, that apparently Waltz (or he's covering for a staffer) accidentally invited someone, the editor at The Atlantic to the session. other than that, everyone in the session was authorized to it.



the conversation was secure. signal is not an unsecured app. signal does encrypt data and the app was not hacked. the data the The Atlantic posted is not enough for any foreign entity to make use of it, even if The Atlantic gave it to some foreign entity.


the only data was timelines without actual dates, and no locations/targets. not enough to compromise the mission in any way.
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Petey definitely back on the sauce after this blunder. It keeps getting worse
And the conclusive proof is what? I ask because I haven't seen it included.
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Old 03-28-2025, 03:39 PM   #58
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And the conclusive proof is what? I ask because I haven't seen it included.

I agree, I haven't seen any conclusive poof either. It was a question and it appears the answer is he doesn't need to be drunk to be this dumb, it's just demonstrated incompetence and lack of qualifications to do the job.
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...it's just demonstrated incompetence and lack of qualifications to do the job...
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...The Democrats' talking points on this story quickly unraveled...CIA Director John Ratcliffe confirmed on Tuesday that the Biden administration installed the Signal messaging app on CIA computers and approved it for official government use.

“So that we're clear, one of the first things that happened when I was confirmed as CIA director was Signal was loaded onto my computer at, uh, the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers,” Ratcliffe said in sworn testimony Tuesday. “Um, one of the things that I was briefed on very early, senator, was by the CIA records management folks about—about the use of Signal as a permissible work use. It is. That is a practice that preceded the current administration to the Biden administration.”...
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...The Signal app was installed in the Biden era?...
Late last year, i.e. after the election, at that.
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