Mind boggling that everyone seems to be worth $800 plus these days

[nobody_home]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

the more she does to show that she's skilled and committed to the encounter

• her communication in setting up the appt (or her manager, booker, whatever) - the more responsive, the better. (part of your Attentive attribute)
• her physical location - closer is better for me.
• the kind of and ambiance of her location - an above average room/house that is tidy and nice, w/ appropriate level of lights, nice music (i guess some folks can have sex while hard-core rap is being played, but it's not for me), bathroom & shower accessories, decent bed all add to a much better experience.
• her looks - not just physically attractive to me but nicely dressed; visually stimulating as that does affect how lil delites and i respond to her.
• her range of activities - the more she does the kind of things i like to do, the better.
• her skill level in those activities - the higher her skill level, the better.
  (this and the one above are part of your Affectionate attribute)
• her range & level of communication - the more we connect, the better.
• her level of confidence and assuredness in herself - the more she has, the better.
• how she treats me before, during, and after the encounter (this is your appreciative attribute; like undressing me, setting my clothes aside nicely, and helping me dress)

thanks for taking the time to contribute such an insightful post. That was awesome and the 'sub-categories' you detailed...its the little things that make a huge difference.

What kills me is the difference between dogshit and excellence is just a tiny bit of intentional effort. Even a smile isn't that hard to execute, but goddamn if it isn't so fucking rare these days. I'd take it personal if I wasn't confident in what I provide as a trickass john

I had one girl I saw early on, she was sweet, had a killer natural body but a knarly face...we'd have good time, one time (last session, in fact) where she knew I was coming over. I get there we chat, have a drink, then she excuses herself to the bathroom which is maybe 10 feet from her bed and starts plopping loud splashing logs in this shitter. I only wanted a blowjob after that.

Another girl that I saw a half dozen times, with $700/hr rates. She was a natural knockout and fun-sized. The first time I see her at my suite, she arrives and greets me like we were old college friends...immediately, first impression - with a vibrant personality, engaging, and full of energy to carry on all kinds of conversations (this is a great time killer, too). She was ALWAYS attentive and trying to make sure I was completely satisfied even afterwards, like egging me on to receive more. Again, this shit doesn't take any real effort to do and you don't even have to mean it. Another time, I'm at a hotel that requires a keypass to get to the rooms, so i have to meet her in the lobby. The lobby is jam packed with people/families in for a convention. I'm sitting there in a new suit that I feel pretty proud about the fit and she shows up in a deep blue bodycon dress that she's just poured into. It was like something out of the "woman in the red dress" moments in the Matrix. EVERYONE knew she was 'here' and greets me like I saved her life. These are lifetime moments that you'd pay to have in something like a "Westworld" scenario. There is no price tag on what those sensations are like......Another time, same girl she hosts me at her cozy French Quarter apartment, greets me in lingerie and night ware with wine and serves and treats me like a king for the entire night. Time was NEVER an issue (at $700/hr who needs to stack clients) and never clock watched. She would keep up comms about personal stuff (a good business practice, no doubt), but it was reciprocal where we both were going through parents with dementia. This went on for 2.5 years....
the amount of experience provided was other worldly....the amount of effort to make happen? minimal

[Ultimate Jessica]

Do you shop for what the box looks like or do you buy on its contents?
Mindset, maturity, acting with integrity and good intention is 100% my thing.

[TalliaThomas]

Originally Posted by Ultimate Jessica

Do you shop for what the box looks like or do you buy on its contents?
Mindset, maturity, acting with integrity and good intention is 100% my thing.

I think many of those things are important for the repeat business-- but lets not pretend that the wrapping paper on the box is also the first impression. While one need not be a supermodel, attraction is important-- otherwise they'll never get to see those other attributes.

[Anthonylewis50]

Originally Posted by Ultimate Jessica

Do you shop for what the box looks like or do you buy on its contents?
Mindset, maturity, acting with integrity and good intention is 100% my thing.

This is a great point. A lot of the ladies seeking 800, 1k or more look like dream girls but often don't treat you very well. That works for an occasional splurge but not for something longterm.

[LustyBustyGina38FF]

A new handle has a lot to say about rates?

[Busty]

yep, until they become an actual E$C0RT they don't know anything. The constant griping is showing everyone they can't have something & it really boils down to entitlement issues.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Ultimate Jessica

Do you shop for what the box looks like or do you buy on its contents?
Mindset, maturity, acting with integrity and good intention is 100% my thing.

Obviously, all guys want a gorgeous lady to go BCD with and most have to pay for that (in one form or fashion) as many guys could not get the time of day from these girls otherwise. But, once the pretty package has become unwrapped and the contents inside leave much to be desired, they do not buy that particular box again.

So to answer your question, I would rather have a pretty lady who makes me feel glad to be a man, then a barbie doll model who makes me feel like she is doing me a favor to be naked in front of me and does unenthusiastic BCD activities where I should have saved that money and jacked to internet porn for free.

Originally Posted by Busty

yep, until they become an actual E$C0RT they don't know anything. The constant griping is showing everyone they can't have something & it really boils down to entitlement issues.

When a guy pays for a service, he IS entitled to not only scrutinize that service and physical looks of the provider he gives his donation to (be it in a review or back channel intel), but also give his honest opinion on the value of the experience as it relates to the donation paid. He can also let a provider know what he likes in a session he pays for without a provider throwing him under the bus.


If a provider does not like that, she need not be a paid provider and/or a member of a board that reviews providers.

[Busty]

^^ Here you go getting something twisted Honey.
I'm talking about men griping about prices and he hasn't seen her.
Same as a man griping about wanting a Bentley but can't afford it.
There is a big difference between a Bentley and a Ford Pinto.
Plenty of people gripe because they aren't getting what they want. If men were high-end E$CORTS they would understand "why" she is able to get that amount.
BoltFan explained it best, you don't know nothing about high-end unless you are seeing them.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Busty

^^ Here you go getting something twisted Honey.
I'm talking about men griping about prices and he hasn't seen her.
Same as a man griping about wanting a Bentley but can't afford it.
There is a big difference between a Bentley and a Ford Pinto.
Plenty of people gripe because they aren't getting what they want. If men were high-end E$CORTS they would understand "why" she is able to get that amount.
BoltFan explained it best, you don't know nothing about high-end unless you are seeing them.

A guy can comment on a provider who he thinks is priced too high if that is what he wants to do, even if he has not seen her, because he either can't and would like to or he won't because he feels no provider should be priced that high. This is a discussion board after all. I do not think he will get much sympathy tho and no provider is going to to say he is right and she will lower her rates just for him.

I have said that I do have the money to spend on these supposed high end call girls, but I choose not to for my reasons. However, I do not insult others for choosing to do so, I just say I do not agree with it, big difference in maturity level. Speaking of differences, there is really little if any on the BCD/TCB aspects of the $300 and $800 provider other than perhaps bigger regret considering the money paid for the same time and getting less than stellar service, which is highly likely with the providers of today. And, I have spent money on and have had the services of high end, or shall I say higher priced, providers to be able say that.

[TalliaThomas]

What makes me laugh-- is that women as a group cringe whenever a man compares us to inanimate objects-- yet here comes Busty-- comparing us to cars.

[Busty]

I have been one of those people that cringe but they still compare us with cars.
But I understand their comparison in a business metaphor even when it's cringe worthy.

[nobody_home]

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Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

A lot of the ladies seeking 800, 1k or more look like dream girls but often don't treat you very well.

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Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF

A new handle has a lot to say about rates?

such a low-brow non-sequitor.....
as if eccie is the gateway for everyone whoremongering. Get over yourselves. the imaginary hierarchy of this site's pecking order is so juvenile

[TalliaThomas]

Originally Posted by nobody_home

as if eccie is the gateway for everyone whoremongering. Get over yourselves. the imaginary hierarchy of this site's pecking order is so juvenile

Heh-- should have seen it back in the day. Pecking order now is NOTHING compared to 2010-ish.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by LustyBustyGina38FF

A new handle has a lot to say about rates?

So what? Like this one, many of your posts on here and elsewhere are calling out others who post on a thread and it does not take a rocket scientist to see that they have nothing to with the subject of the thread. Just because a guy is new to the site does not mean he is new to the hobby and can have an opinion on any subject matter he wishes to.

Originally Posted by Busty

I have been one of those people that cringe but they still compare us with cars.
But I understand their comparison in a business metaphor even when it's cringe worthy.

If you post about something that even if it makes your cringe on a comparison or anything else, then that usually means that anyone who happens to post on that thread that you wholeheartedly disagree with everything that person posts regardless of the subject and you have to get your digs in, so no matter what the opinion is, you will state the opposite is better.

Originally Posted by TalliaThomas

Heh-- should have seen it back in the day. Pecking order now is NOTHING compared to 2010-ish.

This site was more lively in the past, but still just a small percentage of people who were in the hobby. Eccie has gradually become a good old boys site with providers leaving in mass and lots guys doing the same. The ones that have stuck around for the most part are either lurkers who post rarely if ever.

When it comes to the frequent posters of today on this site, you mainly have providers who must not have clientele or have nother better to do for one reason or another than to chime in on just about every thread, usually to throw shade on a poster in the thread. Then you have two types of hobbyists if they want to post on this site, conform to what they want your opinion to be or have your own opinion and get automatically put in the dog house of the site where you constantly get berated (this thread is a perfect example of the zero tolerance for insults being very much tolerable) and some getting the 90 day ban on points continuously over and over.

This subject, just like when someone brings up the "why do providers have an NBA policy" is always going to bring out the people who have strong opinions one way or the other, which is perfect for those frequent posters who have the habit of insulting others, to find those individuals they enjoy persecuting and do so in the normal conversation flow of the thread.

[winn dixie]

800 plus for tatted up rude and robotic whookers with bad tcb skills.
The past their prime frequent posting whookers wanting 800 plus.
Whookers who are still adding to that covid era weight wanting 800 plus.
Whether it be 2 or 8 hundos. Too much for what you get. Just the way many feel