President Trump Moves To Nullify Pardons Signed With A Autopen.

[Jacky S]

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/17/wha...-biden-pardons

This should make the Democrats and their little Minion’s heads explode.

It looks like many of those mass preemptive Pardons that Biden handed out in his last days were not signed by him but by auto pen. Much like many other critical documents.

Since it is an accepted fact that Biden could barely wipe his ass most of the time, Trump’s argument is he was in no condition to hand out candy to trick or treaters, much less hand out Pardons to criminals.

The President is probably doing this to fuck with the Democrat’s minds. The American Public just might say…..”how do we know that Fauchi, Cheney, Hunter, and the entire bunch didn’t just pull the wool over the demented piece of shit’s eyes.

I think it’s going to be comical watching the Democrats squirm at the though Trump just might pull it off.

[Tiny]

This is ridiculous. It will not hold up after it goes through the court system. The Trump administration is wasting taxpayers' dollars.

[nobody_home]

THIS IS TERRIBLE!
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THIS WILL HARM AMERICA BY NOT LETTING CORRUPT PEOPLE WALK FREE.....SHAMEFUL

[Jacky S]

Yeh, AFTER it goes through the court system.

In the mean time, Trump will be camping out in their heads.

[HDGristle]

Waste of imaginary DOGE savings.

[ICU 812]

The autopen signature itself is not actually the issue. What is at astke is investigating the mental health of former Presient Biden while he ws in office. There has always been the assumption that presidential executive actions were initiated by the sitting president and that proxy signatures either by a secrtary or laterly by autopen were authorized by him.

Now there is a persistent and credible suspicion that then President Biden was not fully competent to do these things, or even in the decision loop.

That is the issue.

[HDGristle]

Seemed credible when he talked about them. You boys are gonna have a high climb uphill. This seems destined to be a giant waste of time and money

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

The autopen signature itself is not actually the issue. What is at astke is investigating the mental health of former Presient Biden while he ws in office. There has always been the assumption that presidential executive actions were initiated by the sitting president and that proxy signatures either by a secrtary or laterly by autopen were authorized by him.

Now there is a persistent and credible suspicion that then President Biden was not fully competent to do these things, or even in the decision loop.

That is the issue.

... And there's also the fact that at least two or three
times now Biden has been asked by people - Speaker Johnson
and President Trump are two of them - WHY oh WHY he signed
certain things into Law that Biden HAS DENIED signing!

... So, this whole scenario surely has to play out.
And I can hardly wait to see the results! ...

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[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by Tiny

This is ridiculous. It will not hold up after it goes through the court system. The Trump administration is wasting taxpayers' dollars.

Correct

But for now magas got they pearls clutched and foaming at the mouth
Sic em till that court paper slaps their noses

[VitaMan]

Too bad Trump wastes his time

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by Tiny

This is ridiculous. It will not hold up after it goes through the court system. The Trump administration is wasting taxpayers' dollars.

Of course it is rediculous and won't stand up in court . . .but that is not the play.

Like a chess player, President Trump thinks and acts several moves deep. By raising the dubious question of the legitimacy of autopen signed documents, he lets the opposition raise the issue of legitimate authorization for an auto penned signature.

It is widely believed that former President Biden was not mentally competent to be the chief executive and often physically unable to peform the duties of that office. Now President Trump is setting the stage for Biden's inner circle to prove otherwise to ensure the continued legitimacy or their so far hidden actions on his behalf.

And now there are folks willing to flip. Lindy Li, formerly a major Democratic fund raiser, haqs given several interviews on what she knows about the inner workings of the Biden White House.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Zc6__ZLK0

Books are coming out on the inner workings of the Biden White House.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/26/media...son/index.html

By raising the obviously spurious issue of the autopen signatures, President Trump is goading the progressive left into destroying the legitimacy of Biden's pardons, executive actions and even those laws he is said to have signed, by revealing his mental and physical incapacity themselves.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Reminds me of an Emerson, Lake and Palmer song:

Pictures at an Exhibition

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Seemed credible when he talked about them. You boys are gonna have a high climb uphill. This seems destined to be a giant waste of time and money

You may be right about that, but I think that there are Democrts who will actually do the heavy lifting on this one. Folks are giving insider interviews and writing books on the inner workings of the Biden White House now. . . .nd they are all liberal Democrats.

I don't think the Republicans will have to do much but listen to them flip and spill. When that process is well on the way, then the conservtives will be able to pass legislation on proper authorization of laws, pardons and othr major executive actions.

I am thinking that requiring documentation of witnessed signings will be a part of that.

Retired now, but I have worked in a federal agency. We were made aware of the legal ramifications associated with falsifying a government document. I my workplace this was limited to routine record keeping, but it was always there.

The unauthorized signing of major executive documents by a subordinate official or staff member is orders of magnitude more dangerous to the public good than penciling-in the daily temperature of a regurgitator for the week, in a rush late on a Friday afternoon.

[HDGristle]

Seems like a novel and niche legal argument in search of a situation it can be used in rather than a clear and compelling case requiring that argument.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Seems like a novel and niche legal argument in search of a situation it can be used in rather than a clear and compelling case requiring that argument.

The relavence of this issue depends on whether or not there is credible "testimony" (it is not in litigation yet) that then President Biden did or did not actually authorize some or many major executive actions via autopen.

I suspect that the inner cabal just did things and told him later or not at all.

I am thinking that with the progressive movement at odds with legacy leadership and the Democratic Party in disarray, that more than one or two significant individuals will flip on the Biden legacy for a a juicy book deal.