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		|  11-04-2024, 05:07 AM | #16 |  
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			When has Rasmussen been wrong?
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		|  11-04-2024, 07:26 AM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid  there's nothing "biased" about Rasmussen and Lichtman will be wrong. for the second time. |  
Rasmussen is considered a lean-right poll and has not been included in 538's polling aggregate due to that bias. 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...n-538-polling/ 
Yesterday a poll in Iowa had Harris +3. I don't believe it. 
 
The most accurate polls over time come from the NY Times/Sienna.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/03/u...iena-poll.html |  
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		|  11-04-2024, 10:14 AM | #18 |  
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Good post Speedracer. From the NYTimes link:
 
Both candidates have multiple pathways available to capture the 270 Electoral College votes required to claim victory, assuming that polls are not dramatically underestimating the support for one or the other. In such a close race, even a small systemic polling error could tip the contest decisively in either direction.
 
But there are signs that late deciders are breaking for Ms. Harris: Among the 8 percent of voters who said they had only recently decided on their vote, she wins the group by 55 percent to 44 percent. (With Election Day nearing, 11 percent of voters remained undecided or persuadable, down from 16 percent about a month ago.)
 
The polling comes as more than 70 million Americans have already voted, according to the University of Florida Election Lab.
 
Roughly 40 percent of those surveyed by the Times/Siena poll across the seven states said they had voted. Ms. Harris wins those voters by a margin of eight percentage points, the polls found. Mr. Trump has an edge among voters who say they are highly likely to vote but have not yet cast a ballot.
 
Totally different from what Rasmussen predicts.
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		|  11-04-2024, 10:15 AM | #19 |  
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		|  11-04-2024, 11:06 AM | #20 |  
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			Why don’t you post the ABC link rather than the spin on X?
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		|  11-04-2024, 11:27 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by Yssup Rider  Why don’t you post the ABC link rather than the spin on X? |  
Here you go.. 
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...tion-forecast/ 
Odds are from the top of the page and 
battleground graphic is from the middle of the page
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		|  11-04-2024, 03:26 PM | #22 |  
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			Yeah, that indicates a dead heat.  Maybe that’s why the spin on X was so exciting for you.
 Make sure you get out and vote early!
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		|  11-05-2024, 03:48 AM | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by Yssup Rider  Why don’t you post the ABC link rather than the spin on X? |  
Why don't you post the link to the Always Been Clinton (ABC) version?    |  
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		|  11-05-2024, 09:24 AM | #24 |  
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			I think that the closeness of the 538 polls will show that this is gonna be a long day for both teams.  I'd say that the betters are wrong on percentages and also going to be surprised at the end results.  I'd hope that the outcome will be more decisive, but it's likely going to be just more fodder for wrong-doings.  
 Who wins PA will take the rest of the it in my opinion.
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		|  04-04-2025, 10:12 PM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid  baahahahaaaaaaRasmussen’s Top Pollster Predicts a Trump Landslide
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraha...slide-n2647179 
With just two days until one of the most  critical elections in U.S. history, Americans are holding their breath,  wondering if the next POTUS will bring change or destroy the country  further. 
 
   The presidential race has been close for the most part,  with Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump  going neck-and-neck throughout the entire campaign season. However, just  days before votes begin to be calculated, a new poll shows Trump  winning in a landslide. 
 
Rasmussen’s head pollster made a striking prediction about the winner of the 2024 election. 
 
Mark  Mitchell suggested that Trump will take a significant lead nationally  and among critical battleground states, positioning him to win in a  landslide. 
 
“What  you’re hearing out there is that the polls are close, and I think  that’s wrong,” he told Breitbart News. “I think the polls, on average,  show a strong Trump win, and my polls taken independently show that as  well.”
 
Mitchell predicted a significant Trump landslide  victory that would mirror Ronald Reagan’s historic win against Jimmy  Carter in 1980. He also pointed out that most people “don’t care who  Kamala Harris is.” 
 
The  pollster credited a “major political realignment” as his reasoning,  pointing to Trump’s ability to outperform in the polls. Mitchell seemed  sure that the former president wouldn’t suddenly lose his momentum in  the polls this close to Election Day and predicted that Trump would  shift to the right of the polls in many if not all, swing states.  
 
“I think the pollsters are having a hard time keeping up  with that, us included. Party [affiliation] means a lot less than  whether you support Trump or Harris,” Mitchell said, adding that people  care about the Biden Administration but pointed out that it has been  “deeply unpopular.” 
 
Mitchell  dismissed several polls that show Harris in the lead. He suggested that  Trump’s performance has improved since 2020 and other election cycles,  saying he is “locked in at a Trump plus two national popular votes.”
 
As  a result, if Trump outperforms his previous national vote and in the  battleground states, “that means Trump sweeps the swing states—a big  win.” |  
... And THERE it is! ...    ...    
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		|  04-05-2025, 05:48 AM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by eyecu2  I think that the closeness of the 538 polls will show that this is gonna be a long day for both teams.  I'd say that the betters are wrong on percentages and also going to be surprised at the end results.  I'd hope that the outcome will be more decisive, but it's likely going to be just more fodder for wrong-doings.  
 Who wins PA will take the rest of the it in my opinion.
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Turned out to be over pretty quickly as I recalle it.
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		|  04-05-2025, 05:50 AM | #27 |  
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		|  04-05-2025, 01:03 PM | #28 |  
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					Originally Posted by ICU 812  Turned out to be over pretty quickly as I recalle it. |  
It was over as soon as Trump won GA, NC, and PA.  Three east coast states, however nobody wanted to call it to keep people tuned in.  I kept tuned in, however I was wishing I was at a watch party with three of our Trump haters just to see what a honest to goodness nervous breakdown looked like.       |  
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