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10-22-2021, 09:43 PM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Oct 7, 2021
Location: Kck
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Newbie guidance
I am new to this hobby. Not totally new, usually my trips are unplanned so I’ll go with Amp or stg. After seeing this site for past few weeks, it’s making me try something new.
All I need is some provider who is in 20s or 30s with right figure under budget of $$$ with gfe. I am not cheap or poor, just want to try and take it from there.
My challenge is that I can’t find one. I checking here in the eccie , tryst. What i am missing or wrong
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10-23-2021, 06:47 PM
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Join Date: Oct 17, 2018
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,507
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Well you might find a couple but the majority will ask for more. You could try Seeking Arrangements and find more in the age and price range you are looking for. Still that site is a lot of work to find one.
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10-29-2021, 02:58 PM
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Join Date: May 19, 2011
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 2,511
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“GFE”?
First thing is to evaluate what you expect a GFE is! Whatever the number of people in this hobby you will find an equal number of differing definitions!!! Frankly, I’m kinda surprised the phrase/acronym is still used!
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10-30-2021, 06:56 AM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2014
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 121
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Good luck with the under $$$ budget, thems 2014 prices…this price tag lends itself to half hour visits and those seem to be a little hard to find these days…
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10-30-2021, 07:58 AM
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Join Date: Sep 25, 2021
Location: Gulf Coast Conquistador
Posts: 775
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Originally Posted by Chriskck999
right figure under budget of $$$ with gfe. I am not cheap or poor
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slixa, eros, tryst
It never seems like a good idea (subscription? cmon), but preferred411 is invaluable towards having any positive experience in this "hobby"
As others mentioned, you should define what GFE means to you. When you do that, you should define the expectations you have for the provider to fulfill and the expectations you have for yourself in the encounter. Figure out what YOU are after, specifically. Is it emotional, psychological, mental, physical, etc
Don't ever think you just want to take a hot girl out, be 'nice' to her and think things will lead to where you want it to go.
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10-31-2021, 07:06 AM
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Upgraded Female Account
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What is your right body?
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10-31-2021, 07:12 AM
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Chasing a Cowgirl
Join Date: Oct 19, 2013
Location: Upstate Missouri
Posts: 33,380
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Kati is quite correct.
Unless you figure out which "type" of woman you wish to spend time with (be specific in your search and expectations), you'll just confuse yourself beforehand.
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10-31-2021, 09:19 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Sep 11, 2014
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 160
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I wish I knew what to tell you, but I am glad you posted this. The local scene is pretty bleak. Getting laid wasn't this hard when I was a young man in the pick up joints. And we are paying for it!
I too seek a decent girl who can just give me some feeling and be nice about it. I am a clean, fit well-groomed handsome man. I love to chat and snuggle. It's much more than the nasty for me. I haven't been able to get anyone to figure that out yet. And I tell them that...often to get no response. And probably wouldn't have gotten a response anyway.
Here is something else. I would love to know how others initially approach these girls. I have found they don't answer the phone but will text right back. I usually say "Are you available today?" Is that uncommon? I don't say "What's your address? I want to fuck right now for $XXX? And I want to shove up your ass too." Do other people go hard core right off the bat like that. Is that what they want? Is their time that critical? And I don't negotiate. I pay what they ask for...if it is agreeable. What else do they want?
The AMPs are a waste of time. There are a couple local white girls that are nice looking, but they know it from their price. Shimmer was ok for me at her 2020 price, but its double today. Too much. To pay that, you need all the GFE they can give and most think their presence alone is enough....it isn't. Granted, GFE is relative and difficult to measure. Every girl will do that differently. I have seen some say "Absolutely NO GFE" That is a no-go for me. That is all you need to hear to know it wont be enjoyable.
I have tried to hook up with Kayden Karter many times, but I cannot get through her firewall. She seems like the best one locally. Submitting personal information and Driver License photo is outrageous. You're nuts if you do that. Personally, I think they are stockpiling personal customer data to bargain with later. You don't want to be waiting for that call/visit.
In the past, I have waded through the FriendFinder BS, but its a waste of time. I think many of the ads are fake only intended to get your money. I paid for a 90 day thing. Got nothing. As soon as I cancelled, I started getting all these requests. Yea, right, where were they last week. Fake.
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10-31-2021, 09:44 AM
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Join Date: Sep 25, 2021
Location: Gulf Coast Conquistador
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Originally Posted by AsianLuver
chat and snuggle. It's much more than the nasty for me.
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listen to yourselves. If these girls were well-adjusted and were down to snuggle and be your pretend girlfriend, they wouldn't be in this business. I completely understand where you're coming from,but the REALITY is the majority of these girls have absolutely no concept of what a "normal" relationship is. They don't even know what the idea of it is. Hear me now, believe me later but they are much more comfortable with laying on their back and having you pound away rather than laying on your chest and stroking your face.
This is why you really need to get your shit together and figure out what you want out of these encounters because "surrogate dating" whores will frustrate the hell out of you.
Know your own boundaries, know what you'd like to accomplish. Never delude yourself into thinking you can do something to win over a whore or get her to like you. That just doesn't happen. They only understand immediate transactional relationships. Their idea of dating a guy is using him to ascend finances/social until he can no longer offer the same thrill. You're not going to Richard Gere a whore off of Tryst
If you want to gain more experience and develop your own dating/social skills by taking them to dinner, romancing them, going dancing, et al, go for it. It provides a milieu to make tons of mistakes without consequence (rejection) so when you flex this muscle in the "real world", you're that much more adept. Also be warned, the upper tier girls who consider themselves 'courtesans' talk a big game of being refined and educated, but none of them are. Just a little conversation will reveal how juvenile they are.
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I would love to know how others initially approach these girls.
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get right to the point and give them ALLthe information they need
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I a white, *5 year old NOLA resident hoping we could get together for 2 hours on 08/21 6 p.m. at the Westin downtown.
Attached is my photo
my p411 ID _____-__-_-4522
my linkedin profile ________.
Please, feel free to contact any of the fine providers I have patronized with the information below:
Provider Reference #1 P3**021 71*-***-7194 website link....
Provider Reference #2 P9**13 40*-***-6676 website link....
Provider Reference #3 P4**82 33*-***-9158 https://tryst.link/escort/baileydoll
Provider Reference #4 5 *04-***-0933 https://tryst.link/escort/504miss-k
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10-31-2021, 10:01 AM
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Premium Access
Join Date: Sep 25, 2014
Location: Kansas city
Posts: 2,603
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Most don't answer their calls because the number is a text only app that they use.
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10-31-2021, 11:25 AM
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2018
Location: LEAWOOD
Posts: 491
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Originally Posted by AsianLuver
...I usually say "Are you available today?"...
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Honestly, that's a bad way to open. One of the few things FatCity said that I agree with is his way to open a dialogue.
"Hello, my name is BLANK. I saw your ad on BLANK. I would like to book X hours with you on THIS DAY at THIS TIME"
And, don't be scarred of real world ID. I could pull tons of real world ID information with a modestly priced subscription service and I wouldn't need to put in the time and effort these women put in for it. I realize that clients are concerned for their safety, but so are providers. If a person can't reconcile that, then they are SOL.
It also helps to not go into a co-ed forum and call them "whores" or mal-adjusted.
If you just advocate for yourself at the very beginning (and, believe me, that is hard to get used to doing); and, say something to the effect that you are looking for "intimacy" or "affection" or whatever word you want use to describe the GFE experience you want, they will let you know that they're comfortable with A, B and C; but, not X, Y and Z. Make an appointment with that or don't.
Lastly, $$$ may have been a good price point four years ago, but it's not anymore. For what you're looking for, you might as well reconcile to the $$$$ to $$$$$ range.
Hope this helps.
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10-31-2021, 12:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 25, 2021
Location: Gulf Coast Conquistador
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Originally Posted by Saint Expedite
It also helps to not go into a co-ed forum and call them "whores" .
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you do know a person who has sex for money is a whore, right?
a prostitute, a sex worker, what have you.
These providers know the line of work they've chosen and can be proud of it. These women are under no delusion of what this is and are totally fine with it, why should you?
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10-31-2021, 01:03 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Oct 17, 2018
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,507
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Originally Posted by FatCity
you do know a person who has sex for money is a whore, right?
a prostitute, a sex worker, what have you.
These providers know the line of work they've chosen and can be proud of it. These women are under no delusion of what this is and are totally fine with it, why should you?
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Still I wouldn't call my lawyer an ambulance chaser or shyster. I want some one to provide the best service, my money can get. People are sensitive. Women especially. So sorry, but I would avoid calling any provider those words.
Each girl is different. The way they screen, communicate, etc. I had a sugar baby for almost a year. Did everything with her. When she went on a site, I tried to see if she would answer my messages, not knowing it was me. Same physical description. A few back and forth but I couldn't get a date. So there is no rhyme or reason how they pick guys.
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10-31-2021, 01:14 PM
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Ultimate PSE & GFE
User ID: 240280
Join Date: Apr 21, 2014
Location: Up there & around the Corner
Posts: 3,186
My ECCIE Reviews
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Back in the day non street walkers.
Back in the day they had escort services or dating services and you have to show your ID & a contract so I don't know unless you were picking women up off the street or in a strip bar maybe it was easier that way . Those are still available. But unless you have management per se. And everybody knows management is frowned upon. Then screening is VITAL Yet seems to be a an ongoing issue amongst some potential clientele...
My suggestion to you OP is to is 2 speak with providers who have a great Rapport who have been around for a while who can give you some directions. These gentlemen are going to try to cultivate you... which is not necessarily bad, but it can be. So if you have questions on how to be a provider, pricing vs activities, I would go to the little girls room and I would post what you posted here there and let some providers that have been around for a while give you some really good solid Direction. Good luck in your Ventures be safe and have fun.
Hugs.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN 
Savannah Moon
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11-02-2021, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: Aug 4, 2019
Location: KCMO
Posts: 7
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Originally Posted by AsianLuver
Shimmer was ok for me at her 2020 price, but its double today. Too much.
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Shimmer just absolutely does it for me from a “looks” department and I would gladly fork over the $$$$$ but I can’t get past the screening she wants. I’m just not going to send my picture or a copy of my DL even tho I totally understand why she wants it.
I’m hoping to find someone reputable with her quality of looks who has lighter screening. It would be worth a higher fee to me. Needless to say I’m still looking .
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