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Tiny · 08-20-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blackman1

They were peaceful, except when they’d weren’t. And they were patriots, except when they weren’t.

The fact that there was no pre planning or organization helps put it back on Trump as being more responsible.

Viewing that video it looks like he could have gotten Mike Pence killed. He didn't intend to put the Vice President at risk. But some in the crowd took what Trump said about Pence and decided maybe adding a little extra pressure would be a good idea. Like make him deny certification of the election or drag him out and execute him.

I don't think you can put it all on Trump's speech though. Whoever came up with the gallows and noose must have put some thought into the matter, and they didn't make it that morning.

LexusLover · 08-20-2021, 03:29 PM

Waffle, waffle. No "preplanning" of what? There was no "preplanning" to "overthrow" the government, but there was "preplanning" to enter the capitol. Loons try to have it either way, because that's there agenda and spin.

They voted for Bitten ... so that just about tells it all.

pfunkdenver · 08-20-2021, 05:01 PM

1blackman1 and Tiny, I don't know why you bother.

The "conservatives" on this site will believe OAN, and Newsmax, over any mainstream sources. They are certain the MSM is siding with Democrats and RINOs, and hiding the truth.

IMO, arguing with these guys is pointless.

bambino · 08-20-2021, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

1blackman1 and Tiny, I don't know why you bother.

The "conservatives" on this site will believe OAN, and Newsmax, over any mainstream sources. They are certain the MSM is siding with Democrats and RINOs, and hiding the truth.

IMO, arguing with these guys is pointless.

I guess you’re a believer in CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WAPO? Those stalwarts of thruth?

Tiny · 08-20-2021, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

1blackman1 and Tiny, I don't know why you bother.

The "conservatives" on this site will believe OAN, and Newsmax, over any mainstream sources. They are certain the MSM is siding with Democrats and RINOs, and hiding the truth.

IMO, arguing with these guys is pointless.

Conservatives? This has nothing to do with political ideology Pfunkdenver. They suffer from a mental illness, called Trump Enlightenment Syndrome (TES). It's kind of similar to JJES (Jim Jones Enlightenment Syndrome) and DKES (David Koresh Enlightenment Syndrome), but milder.

Please note that Richard Burr, Bill Cassidy, Mitt Romney, Pat Toomey, Ben Sasse, Lynn Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Tom Rice, Dan Newhouse, Anthony Gonzalez (Ohio, not Texas), Fred Upton, Jaime Beutler, Peter Meijer, John Katko, and David Valadao are all conservatives. They've battled mightily, at personal risk to their political careers and even lives, to wipe TES from the planet.

Other conservatives like Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, and, most significantly Mike Pence detest and fear this pernicious disease, but in order to save their hides have tried to blend in with the infected.

And yes, unfortunately, you're right. Argument is futile, although it can be somewhat entertaining. Deep conversations with Strokey McDingDong about shit and Winn Dixie about fucking Nancy Pelosi are more profound and entertaining though, so I don't know why I waste my time on this.

Ironically, I believe Trump did a good job on the economy and foreign policy, aside from the Trade Wars. I'd feel much less exposed financially right now if he were still President instead of Biden. However, his autocratic tendencies, lies, and sometimes unstable behavior are bad for America and bad for the future of the Republican Party.

oeb11 · 08-20-2021, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blackman1

No it does not. Do you even read the stuff you post. What it does imply is that the people that Attacked the Capitol did so with spontaneity (which I would say was spurred on by the President and his lackeys l).

for the 'rumored lawyer' - a ridiculous interpretation based on the decision handed down by the FBI.

Ignoring the Riots in Seattle, Porltand, and Minneapolis - a small example - yet crucifying the Capitol dissenter s- is first Rate hypocrisy only a lawyer DPST communist to espouse.

Go take a few social workers to Afghanistan to pacify the country for the Chinese - You will enjoy the experience.

And take the CRT RAcism with You! See how that plays with the Chinese!
LOL

eccieuser9500 · 08-20-2021, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

1blackman1 and Tiny, I don't know why you bother.

The "conservatives" on this site will believe OAN, and Newsmax, over any mainstream sources. They are certain the MSM is siding with Democrats and RINOs, and hiding the truth.

IMO, arguing with these guys is pointless.

But fun for me, sir.

eccieuser9500 · 08-20-2021, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LexusLover

Waffle, waffle. No "preplanning" of what? There was no "preplanning" to "overthrow" the government, but there was "preplanning" to enter the capitol. Loons try to have it either way, because that's there agenda and spin.

They voted for Bitten ... so that just about tells it all.

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exc...es-2021-08-20/

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FBI investigators did find that cells of protesters, including followers of the far-right Oath Keepers and Proud Boys groups, had aimed to break into the Capitol. But they found no evidence that the groups had serious plans about what to do if they made it inside, the sources said.

What were all those plastic zip ties for? And the gallows was just a prop?

Tiny · 08-20-2021, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

What were all those plastic zip ties for?

For tying the garbage bags after they filled them with body parts?

HedonistForever · 08-20-2021, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

1blackman1 and Tiny, I don't know why you bother.

The "conservatives" on this site will believe OAN, and Newsmax, over any mainstream sources. They are certain the MSM is siding with Democrats and RINOs, and hiding the truth.

IMO, arguing with these guys is pointless.

Uh, you do know this is an FBI report and the particular article being discussed here is from Reuters, right?

The funny thing is and it applies to many others than just you and on both sides of the political aisle. You just don't see in yourself, what you see in other's. You are noting more ( or less ) than the other side of the coin that you detest so much.

If you really, really believe that the MSM has not been in a conspiracy with the Democrat Party and now we can add the FBI, CIA and Intelligence agencies, to "get Trump" by any means necessary, even if it meant breaking the law like the lawyer at the FBI did by falsifying an official document or like Adam Schiff, willing to lie to achieve his political goal, one of many in the Democrat Party willing to do so, then you are truly blind.

This is in no way an attempt to "justify" the lies Trump told but the "BIG LIE" that Trump conspired with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election and that Trump conspired with those that attacked the capital, have now both been proven to be political dirty tricks by the Democrat party with the full assitance of the MSM and above mentioned arms of the government. That's how much they hated Trump. Enough to willingly break the law and in the case of Adam Shiff, simply didn't care when he was caught in lie after lie that he "had the evidence" which he never did and even when the "classified" interrogations where Schiff told us he got the evidence and every single one of those people never said a single thing Schiff says he was told, nothing happened to the man. Why,because he was protected by his party, the MSM and all those 3 letter word agencies. It is all as clear as your inability to apparently understand any of this. It is truly amazing that people like you insist you have no knowledge of what is right in front of your face.

Yes, Trump was an asshole, a narcissist of unbelievable proportions but he did not conspire with Russia, he did not conspire with the Proud Boys or Oath keeps or the funny man in the hat with horns. None of it was true and it has been so clear for the past 4 plus years that none of it was true, except for the part of Trump being an asshole, that only a person wiling to join in the conspiracy theory, I'm talking about you here, willing to over look the law breaking because any means would justify getting rid of Trump.

pfunkdenver, you are "them".

winn dixie · 08-20-2021, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bambino

Do you read? No pre planning. Misdemeanors. No guns, no insurrection.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thats what common sense people have been saying since day 1.

A panty raid is more organized

eccieuser9500 · 08-20-2021, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiny

For tying the garbage bags after they filled them with body parts?

You got me on that one Chiquito. I wasn't thinking so cryptic.

eccieuser9500 · 08-20-2021, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by winn dixie

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thats what common sense people have been saying since day 1.

A panty raid is more organized

There's that humor.

Tiny · 08-20-2021, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

And the gallows was just a prop?

That might have been McDingDong's. He lives in Bethesda, Maryland and is into masturbation. Maybe he was going to push the limits, and do a David Carradine in front of 10,000 protestors and a national television audience.

eccieuser9500 · 08-20-2021, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiny

That might have been McDingDong's. He lives in Bethesda, Maryland and is into masturbation. Maybe he was going to push the limits, and do a David Carradine in front of 10,000 protestors and a national television audience.

I didn't know, or remember, that about the old grasshopper.

Police: Carradine's Death Likely Sex Accident

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Entertain...7763422&page=1

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Carradine, 72, best known for his role in the 1970s television drama "Kung Fu," was found by a chamber maid at Bangkok's Park Nai Lert Hotel naked and dead, slumped in a closet with cords bound and connecting his neck and his genitals, Bangkok police said.

But I did know about this guy.

Flashback: Listen to Final INXS Concert With Michael Hutchence

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...ce-125209/amp/

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Twenty years ago today, a maid at the Ritz-Carlton in Sydney, Australia discovered the lifeless body of INXS frontman Michael Hutchence hanging from a door when she came in to clean the room. “He was in a kneeling position facing the door,” read the police report. “He had used his snake skin belt to tie a knot on the automatic door closure at the top of the door, and had strained his head forward into the loop so hard that the buckle had broken.”