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Old 07-26-2021, 05:53 PM   #31
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Oeb

Sorry, I forgot to post the Labcorp link

https://www.labcorp.com/tests/140140...tial-virus-naa

I don't regard the prescription drugs advertised on TV as necessarily scams, but they are all highly profitable to the pharma advertising, may have much cheaper aexpensive and lternatives, and often don't offer the benefit implied (read the small print that scrolls fast). IMO,(opinion only, no fact), some are more "experimental", as some term it, than the covid vaccine.

In the past pharma was not allowed to do direct public marketing. Opinion again, but although we are arguably better educated in the internet age, I don't think the average patient can process all the information out there....because they're not doctors; not even all doctors can. Unfortunately, doctors sometimes are pressured to prescribe what the patient "orders" for financial, malpractice, personal reasons. End of rant.
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:27 PM   #32
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'r' - in some ways - that was a rant
still - I agree the Prescription drugs on tv are generally reality - for dugs 'approved by the FDA" - and deemed 'safe and effective' for certain indications.

those purporting to Cure HIV, etc - and not FDA approved for teh indication - are generally scams.

Not to say that 'off-label' use is inappropriate - many off-label uses are mainstream and appropriate - as - for example - few drugs are approved specifically for pediatric use - as the testing and approval process is very tedious, expensive, and difficult./




You are right - no physician can know it all - even in One's fields these days - with the rapid expansion of medical knowledge and publishing.

Yes - multiple factors can come into play with a physician prescription - the patients' best interest should always be priority.

Michael Jackson's death is an example of a failure of a physician to follow that precept - that physician is in prison for manslaughter, to my memory. The pressures of teh rich and famous to 'get what they want' in medical care - is not always what is best for them.
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Old 07-27-2021, 07:14 AM   #33
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Physicians and big pharma go hand in hand , these is all has always been about money and experimenting
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Old 07-27-2021, 12:48 PM   #34
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Agree Dutchman. Experimenting is how we got antibiotics, anesthesia, most surgical procedures, artifical joints, therapeutic drugs, our entire wealth of medical knowledge....and yes, vaccines of all types. The covid vaccine is not experimental, it was just expedited through the red tape approval process due to the global impact.
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Old 07-27-2021, 01:31 PM   #35
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I trust Pfizer more than I trust the federal government. I may go ahead and get a third Pfizer vaccine in a few months, regardless of what the FDA, CDC and Biden administration say, if Pfizer recommends a booster. While it would be awfully nice to have something like a National vaccine passport, for the purpose of visiting places and business establishments in Europe, there is an upside to not having one — it will be easy to get another injection if I so choose.
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Old 07-27-2021, 02:01 PM   #36
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The covid vaccine is not experimental, it was just expedited through the red tape approval process due to the global impact.
If they are fully tested and the mRNA therapy shots are NOT experimental, why are the manufacturers non-liable for any resulting issues? What red-tape does that fix?
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Old 07-27-2021, 02:15 PM   #37
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Tiny wants 4 injections LOL.
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Old 07-27-2021, 02:17 PM   #38
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Simple answer, product liability issues. Plagues many industries besides pharma. Just look at some of the TV lawyer ads. Old adage: You can have it cheap, you can have it quick, or you can have it good...pick two.
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Old 07-27-2021, 02:23 PM   #39
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My relative is in the US Military and received a COVID shot. For the past two days he's been in the hospital paralyzed from the shoulders down. Came back from Afghanistan about a month ago.

They are giving him steroid injections hoping that it relieves pressure on the spine. Last I heard he has feeling in one toe. Still in tremendous pain. They haven't ruled out side effect of the vaxxx.
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Old 07-27-2021, 02:36 PM   #40
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My father wasn't vaccinated against polio and was paralyzed from the neck down on the left side for the rest of his life. They never ruled out that that wouldn't have happened had he received the vaccine.
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Old 07-27-2021, 02:37 PM   #41
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Tiny wants 4 injections LOL.
Hell yeah! If you count the tetanus booster the doctor had me get when I came in with my knees scraped up. Just 3 COVID injections though.

Note to self: missionary sex on dirty concrete floors is a bad idea.
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Old 07-27-2021, 02:42 PM   #42
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You probably already got COVID from banging all those Asian hoes LOL.
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Old 07-27-2021, 02:44 PM   #43
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"Note to self: missionary sex on dirty concrete floors is a bad idea"

I've contracted scabies from dirty sheets/providers more than once. I'd prefer the tetanus shot LOL.
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I trust Pfizer more than I trust the federal government. I may go ahead and get a third Pfizer vaccine in a few months, regardless of what the FDA, CDC and Biden administration say, if Pfizer recommends a booster. While it would be awfully nice to have something like a National vaccine passport, for the purpose of visiting places and business establishments in Europe, there is an upside to not having one — it will be easy to get another injection if I so choose.
Yeah, go ahead get that third injection. There's nothing like replacing your natural Immune System through Chemical means.
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"Yeah, go ahead get that third injection. There's nothing like replacing your natural Immune System through Chemical means."

I assume you have "proof" for implication, or are just passing gas?
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