When Will You Get The COVID19 Vaccine?

[rexdutchman]

^^ and cause your immune system to Overreact , and no one knows the long term effects of the artificially manufactured vaccines ^ MS ALS RA are side effects of overreacting immune response . the biggest misunderstanding is the mRNA is destroyed by the body in 72 hours it is not Dr Baylock .com Watch is why they are pushing for yearly + vaccines

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

I received both shots of the Pfizer in Feb

first shot - no affect

2nd shot - felt like I had the flu for a day and a half

ive heard hearsay stories from people I know telling me they know people winding up in the hospital from the shots

when they determine there will be a need for 6 month or annual boosters- that will be a logistical nightmare all over again

It's much better than getting the disease though. I haven't heard of anyone going to the hospital because of the vaccine, but am sure there are some who have. I personally know people who spent time in the hospital because of COVID, as well as two who died of it.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Tiny

It's much better than getting the disease though. I haven't heard of anyone going to the hospital because of the vaccine, but am sure there are some who have. I personally know people who spent time in the hospital because of COVID, as well as two who died of it.

this isn't the people told me story

well in a way it is but I didn't have this in mind in my previous post but

when I received my second shot, at the u..t. health science center in s.a.

after you receive the shot, they request you wait 15 minutes before leaving, and I dutifully complied

the volunteer they had manning the waiting room I was in told his story

whether or not his analysis of what happened to him is correct or not I don't know but

he said he had received a flu shot within a relatively short period of time, I think he mentioned two weeks, before his second covid shot

and the covid shot sent him into a tailspin for over a month and he was hospitalized

he attributed it to the an interaction of the flu and covid shots and he kept saying no one told him that would happen

probably because it didn't happen but I don't know, but he did get sick and was hospitalized and he was convinced of the adverse interaction

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

this isn't the people told me story

well in a way it is but I didn't have this in mind in my previous post but

when I received my second shot, at the u..t. health science center in s.a.

after you receive the shot, they request you wait 15 minutes before leaving, and I dutifully complied

the volunteer they had manning the waiting room I was in told his story

whether or not his analysis of what happened to him is correct or not I don't know but

he said he had received a flu shot within a relatively short period of time, I think he mentioned two weeks, before his second covid shot

and the covid shot sent him into a tailspin for over a month and he was hospitalized

he attributed it to the an interaction of the flu and covid shots and he kept saying no one told him that would happen

probably because it didn't happen but I don't know, but he did get sick and was hospitalized and he was convinced of the adverse interaction

Hmm, maybe the moral is wait longer than two weeks between vaccines. I spotted this,

https://www.health.gov.au/initiative...vid-19-vaccine

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Agreed. Although I'd a lot rather get immunity through a vaccine than getting the disease.




It seems like it would be the reverse. If the virus is more widespread and stays around longer, it will mutate more. The vaccines, in particular Pfizer and Moderna, are better at producing immunity than a previous infection is. They also are more effective against variants created by mutations than a previous infection.

The flu caused fewer deaths last year than it does in most years, and people are speculating it's because of masking and lockdowns and the like. That's not to say I agree with lockdowns -- I don't.

Trying to persuade the public to wear masks and social distance, to buy time for development of vaccines, was a good idea.

There is nothing to compare that too. This vaccine hasn't been tried and proven. So a lot of these claims are more theory at this point. Vaccines in the future may not involve Intramuscular Injections. Viruses are tissue specific. In the case of Covid-19 if it is a Corona Virus it sets up house keeping in the upper Respiratory System that's why the symptoms are Congestion, Difficulty Breathing, Headaches Body Aches and Fever. The day they develop and approve a Nasal Vaccine instead of a needle into the arm of a recipient is when a truly effective vaccine will fight Viruses such as Influenza, Corona Virus and Rhinovirus because the very tissues they effect will stimulate an immune response. The Nasal vaccine are in the initial stages of development. Intramuscular Injections take to long for the body to build up protection, they say a few weeks. Nasal would be a matter of hours. I don't have much fear of Covid-19 because the Immune System can manage it quite well in most cases. What scares the shit out of me is if there is ever a time when the Rabies Virus enters the population from some sort of manipulation and being bitten is no longer the only mode of transmission then we are all in big trouble. This virus can evade the Immune System by crossing the Blood Brain Barrier where the Immune System isn't present. It then destroys the Nervous System uninhibited, killing it's host. That would be a total nightmare.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

What scares the shit out of me is if there is ever a time when the Rabies Virus enters the population from some sort of manipulation and being bitten is no longer the only mode of transmission then we are all in big trouble. This virus can evade the Immune System by crossing the Blood Brain Barrier where the Immune System isn't present. It then destroys the Nervous System uninhibited, killing it's host. That would be a total nightmare.

In addition to rabies, what would happen if something like SARS, MERS, or Ebola were to mutate and become more infectious. All of them have high fatality rates, although rabies must be the worst. Some day you'd think there's going to be a virus out there that's as infectious as COVID but with a much higher fatality rate.

Thankfully most virologists aren't crazy people bent on destruction of the human race. You'd think it's much more likely a "killer virus" would arise through mutations rather than manipulation.

[reddog1951]

Levianon is mostly correct scientifically and I won't quibble with minor points of disagreement other than say we must use what we have. Nasal vaccines are promising, but not "here" yet. Technology behind the Pfizer vaccine is innovative and promising for future applications.

The dismissal of advances made my medical science recently truly dismays me. Levianon points to rabies; I point to HIV. Had HIV been airborne rather than bloodborne, many of us wouldn't be here...in case you don't know, it attacks the immune response directly...we ha no cure or vaccine as yet...and effective treatments took years to develop.

Some now politicize medical advancement and attempt to establish such as over-reach of government. There are already proven, accepted,effective vaccines against measles,mumps, chickenpox, tetanus, polio, rabies,etc.....all the result of medical science, and some using attenuated live virus.
So why the kick back? Might be wiser to fund research against future viral and other pathogen threats.

[Tiny]

Good post reddog

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

In addition to rabies, what would happen if something like SARS, MERS, or Ebola were to mutate and become more infectious. All of them have high fatality rates, although rabies must be the worst. Some day you'd think there's going to be a virus out there that's as infectious as COVID but with a much higher fatality rate.

Thankfully most virologists aren't crazy people bent on destruction of the human race. You'd think it's much more likely a "killer virus" would arise through mutations rather than manipulation.

Well Just like Covid-19 SARS and MERS are Corona Viruses and affect the upper respiratory tract. Rabies is of the family of Lyssavirus these viruses attack the Central Nervous System at the onset of symptoms the recipient is doomed.

[SecretE]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

from what i read, people who were already exposed are having these types of reactions. it's possible you already were based on what you say you experienced.

A very good possibility.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by reddog1951

Levianon is mostly correct scientifically and I won't quibble with minor points of disagreement other than say we must use what we have. Nasal vaccines are promising, but not "here" yet. Technology behind the Pfizer vaccine is innovative and promising for future applications.

The dismissal of advances made my medical science recently truly dismays me. Levianon points to rabies; I point to HIV. Had HIV been airborne rather than bloodborne, many of us wouldn't be here...in case you don't know, it attacks the immune response directly...we ha no cure or vaccine as yet...and effective treatments took years to develop.

Some now politicize medical advancement and attempt to establish such as over-reach of government. There are already proven, accepted,effective vaccines against measles,mumps, chickenpox, tetanus, polio, rabies,etc.....all the result of medical science, and some using attenuated live virus.
So why the kick back? Might be wiser to fund research against future viral and other pathogen threats.

I would agree AIDs would be another disastrous possibility if it were tweaked to be more easily transmissible. I mention Rabies because the recipient at the height of the disease onset would possibly become violent and be a danger to others where as AIDS most likely not.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by SecretE

I held out for as long as I could. I originally wanted to decide in June 2021, as there would be more real-world data by then. However, certain risk factors changed for me sooner than expected, so I ended up getting the Janssen (J&J) one in early April...right before the EUA was pulled. First few days, 102F fever, moderate headache, and muscle aches. Fever went away first, then headaches, then finally muscle aches...almost 2 weeks later. Do I regret getting it, now that I survived it? No? Do I think these vaccines should be mandatory, or there should be incentives/disincentives tied to getting it/not getting it. HELL NO.

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

from what i read, people who were already exposed are having these types of reactions. it's possible you already were based on what you say you experienced.

that sound like what happened to my cousin and his girlfriend, they were probably already asymptomatic with covid. the introduction of the vaccine into their system prolly made it go haywire.

[Chung Tran]

You right-wing, anti-vax Freaks can not visit Europe this Summer. The rest of us can..
Yeah, I know. You didn't want to go anyway. Not to those Libtard Leftist Countries. You are anti-intellectual as well, LOL

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

You right-wing, anti-vax Freaks can not visit Europe this Summer. The rest of us can..
Yeah, I know. You didn't want to go anyway. Not to those Libtard Leftist Countries. You are anti-intellectual as well, LOL

did you get vaccinated? and if you did so just for the hobby i'm fine with that.



so did you?

[DesWad]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

You right-wing, anti-vax Freaks can not visit Europe this Summer. The rest of us can..
Yeah, I know. You didn't want to go anyway. Not to those Libtard Leftist Countries. You are anti-intellectual as well, LOL

self abuse much?