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Old 02-06-2021, 06:25 PM   #46
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"People were trying to rush and infiltrate our office buildings-that's why we had to get evacuated in the first place. The attempts of attackers and publicly available communications show how they tried to gain access and share location info on finding members for physical harm"

Watch the video. You can see what I just posted at @ 12:00 minutes.
And you do not believe the protestors were not looking for legislators?

Again....what part is the lie?
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Old 02-06-2021, 06:36 PM   #47
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They were evacuated because of the pipe bomb scare. At 1:00 when she was being evacuated, the breach of the capital building was an hour and 1/2 away.
Also, no one tried to rush her office building. Her office is not in the capital building and that's the only one that was.
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Old 02-06-2021, 06:44 PM   #48
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They were evacuated because of the pipe bomb scare. At 1:00 when she was being evacuated, the breach of the capital building was an hour and 1/2 away.
Me thinks you are not listening to what she said.



Around the time the clashes at the Capitol started, Ocasio-Cortez said she was at her desk scrolling through lunch options when she heard a loud, “violent” banging on her office doors. She ran over to her legislative director Geraldo Bonilla-Chavez (whom she calls “G”), who told her, “Hide, hide, run and hide.”

She hid in the bathroom of her office and realized that the person who was banging on the door had gotten inside and was yelling, “Where is she?” Ocasio-Cortez said didn’t know it while she was hiding, but the person calling that out was actually a Capitol police officer.

In the moment, while she was hiding in her bathroom and the door started to open on her, Ocasio-Cortez said, she thought she was going to die. “This was the moment where I thought everything was over.”

Ocasio-Cortez went on to describe the ensuing chaos as she and Bonilla-Chavez tried to find a place to hide after the officer told them to evacuate, without directing them to a specific evacuation destination. While she and Bonilla-Chavez ran up and down stairways and wandered hallways, she said, they could hear rioters getting louder and louder, trying to break inside, and felt that at any moment the attackers might breach the building. Ocasio-Cortez said they finally found U.S. Rep. Katie Porter, D-Calif., and ended up sheltering in place in her office.

Porter stated in a Feb. 1 interview on MSNBC that Ocasio-Cortez’s level of “fight-or-flight” was so heightened that when Porter informed her that she was a mother and had everything they would need to stay there as long as necessary, Ocasio-Cortez had replied, “I just hope I get to be a mom. I hope I don’t die today.” Porter’s office also found Ocasio-Cortez extra clothes and sneakers to change into so she could blend in and flee if she needed to.
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I made an edit. You should re- read my post.
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I made an edit. You should re- read my post.
Here is a time line


2:22 p.m.
Reports say Vice President Mike Pence has been escorted out of the Senate chamber.

2:24 p.m.
Trump tweets, “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”
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Old 02-06-2021, 06:59 PM   #51
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Around the time the clashes at the Capitol started, Ocasio-Cortez said she was at her desk scrolling through lunch options when she heard a loud, “violent” banging on her office doors. She ran over to her legislative director Geraldo Bonilla-Chavez (whom she calls “G”), who told her, “Hide, hide, run and hide.”

She hid in the bathroom of her office and realized that the person who was banging on the door had gotten inside and was yelling, “Where is she?” Ocasio-Cortez said didn’t know it while she was hiding, but the person calling that out was actually a Capitol police officer.

In the moment, while she was hiding in her bathroom and the door started to open on her, Ocasio-Cortez said, she thought she was going to die. “This was the moment where I thought everything was over.”

Ocasio-Cortez went on to describe the ensuing chaos as she and Bonilla-Chavez tried to find a place to hide after the officer told them to evacuate, without directing them to a specific evacuation destination. While she and Bonilla-Chavez ran up and down stairways and wandered hallways, she said, they could hear rioters getting louder and louder, trying to break inside, and felt that at any moment the attackers might breach the building. Ocasio-Cortez said they finally found U.S. Rep. Katie Porter, D-Calif., and ended up sheltering in place in her office.


All of the above allegedly happened at the time the officer had come to evacuate her. That was at one o'clock per her timeline. There was no breach of any building until @ 2:30 and the building she was in was never breached.

Watch the video!
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:44 PM   #52
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was she in the senate chamber?
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Old 02-06-2021, 10:53 PM   #53
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I don't think anyone has claimed that. If so I've not seen it.
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:27 PM   #54
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AP News fact check
https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...ent:9951968706
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Old 02-06-2021, 11:29 PM   #55
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Definitely Lied About January 6, and She Can’t Handle the Pushback

Date: February 6, 2021
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been really playing up her victimhood during the January 6 riot on Capitol Hill. But when you objectively look at the facts, the conclusion is simple: she lied and can’t stand being called out on it.

Over the last few weeks, she has accused Ted Cruz of sending in rioters to murder her, accused a Capitol Police officer of being in cahoots with the rioters, and has accused everyone on the right of supporting the riots.

All of which are untrue.

She has maintained that she was in the thick of the riot, that even the Cannon office building, where her office is, was under attack. It is not in dispute that the riot was concentrated at the Capitol building, where Congress actually meets like they were that day, and it is not in dispute that other protestors around the Capitol complex were not participating in the level of violence and destruction that was happening at the Capitol building.

It is also not in dispute that the two pipe bombs found in D.C. were at the DNC and RNC offices, which are blocks away from the Cannon building and could not have posed a major threat to Congresspeople inside the Cannon building.

When called out on all this, including by folks at RedState, she pushed back not with actual debate on the issue, but by sending her followers out to report any accounts on social media spreading misinformation. She didn’t like being challenged, she wanted tech companies to silence her critics.

That is a major problem, and indicative of the key issue with having her continue to get the spotlight as she has been.

She has since tried to move the battleground in this debate by saying the GOP is challenging “accounts” from the day of the riot.



Now she is trying to change the game here. Now it’s about everyone who was in danger. She is now accusing the GOP of dismissing all accounts from that day because hers doesn’t stand up and she knows it.

She is using this New York Times piece to try and back up her claims, but it is not the claims alone that made her story suspect. It is her framing, which was the accepted framing among all media outlets with anyone questioning it cast out to the wolves.

Ocasio-Cortez framed herself as being in the middle of the riot. She felt threatened, though she was far enough away and in a building that was actively being evacuated. Yes, there are tunnels connecting the Cannon Building to the Capitol building. Those tunnels were not breached, nor is there any indication that anyone tried to breach them.

Curiously, whenever a Republican says anything, there will always be some questioning the hidden “dog whistle” behind their words. Journalists are quick to question the implied meaning behind Republican policies and statements. They will not question why Ocasio-Cortez would portray herself as being in imminent, life-threatening danger when there is no actual evidence of that.

But for Ocasio-Cortez to try and use her position, platform, and audience to try and silence actual dissent is a sign that she is too immature to handle criticism. She doesn’t want any discussion of why she is wrong. She isn’t defending herself. She is silencing criticism. It’s about time for her to grow up and realize her position actively invites criticism — that’s the entire basis of politics.

I am sympathetic to Ocasio-Cortez’s claims of trauma and that it clouded her response in the moment of the riot. But any objective look at the facts from that day shows she was not in the danger she has insisted she was in. She is choosing to lie now, and she wants to silence anyone who questions her. That is immature, and it’s cowardice.
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A day or so ago, I read where AOC had been sexually abused in the past .....
"abuse" .... someone turned her down.
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was she in the senate chamber?
No....she was in her office in the adjacent building.

No protestors.

Actually, if one carefully watches her tale .... she shows classic lying symptoms.
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Old 02-07-2021, 08:39 PM   #58
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So I ask again. Who's lying now?
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wtf has cut and run?
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wtf has cut and run?
looks like it.
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