Socialism

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yeah, what happened to the good old days. Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich. You really need bipartisanship to accomplish something lasting and great. Otherwise when the other party gets into power they'll just overturn whatever it is you did.

Yeah like with Obamacare. Oh that’s right the Republicans have no better alternative so they failed to repeal and replace it.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Yeah like with Obamacare. Oh that’s right the Republicans have no better alternative so they failed to repeal and replace it.

You’re right, sadly Republicans, alone or working with Democrats have not come up with a better alternative. After the Affordable Care Act, we still don’t have universal health care. We still have by far the most expensive health care system in the world. And outcomes, measured by statistics.like longevity and infant mortality rates, are no better than Cuba’s.

Republicans and the Supreme Court both came within one vote of overturning it. And one or the other will probably take it down or water it down at some point.

This is an issue that deserves attention and a bipartisan fix.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Tiny

You’re right, sadly Republicans, alone or working with Democrats have not come up with a better alternative. After the Affordable Care Act, we still don’t have universal health care. We still have by far the most expensive health care system in the world. And outcomes, measured by statistics.like longevity and infant mortality rates, are no better than Cuba’s.

Republicans and the Supreme Court both came within one vote of overturning it. And one or the other will probably take it down or water it down at some point.

This is an issue that deserves attention and a bipartisan fix.

I agree 100%.

[1blackman1]

I’m still awaiting that Republican contribution and their great ideas. Been waiting for 12 years. Maybe they actually don’t have any.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

I’m still awaiting that Republican contribution and their great ideas. Been waiting for 12 years. Maybe they actually don’t have any.

the kenyan made billions for the insurance companies while folks paid much higher premiums for less coverage!
Gonna add that the kenyans aca act was modeled after romneys plan when he was governor.
fuck both of 'em

[1blackman1]

And you wonder why you get labeled a racist. Oh how could that be. I think I know the answer though.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Yeah like with Obamacare. Oh that’s right the Republicans have no better alternative so they failed to repeal and replace it.

More "whataboutism". Every time you make a comparison, what came before compared to now you are using "whataboutism" but then you knew that, right?

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by Tiny

You’re righotnse, sadly Republicans, alone or working with Democrats have not come up with a better alternative. After the Affordable Care Act, we still don’t have universal health care. We still have by far the most expensive health care system in the world. And outcomes, measured by statistics.like longevity and infant mortality rates, are no better than Cuba’s.

Republicans and the Supreme Court both came within one vote of overturning it. And one or the other will probably take it down or water it down at some point.

This is an issue that deserves attention and a bipartisan fix.

Tiny - Agreed- the Republicans failed to create a better plan - one not morass of rules, edicts, and expense to the taxpayers and to the insured .
DPST/cc party in its' hatred and disdain of anything Trump - throws the baby out with the bathwater - and blames Trump for their consequences of their fiden EO/s. The attitude of a speaker nazi pelosi who labels Republicans as "the enemy within" - encourages gridlock .
nazi pelosi needs to go back to SF where she likes people who sht in the street and businesses.

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

And you wonder why you get labeled a racist. Oh how could that be. I think I know the answer though.

One does like to throw around that 'r' term, and ignores the FAct and truth that racism is not an issue limited to Caucasians -despite the indoctrination of the marxist DPST/ccp party .
It is a great shame upon all of our nation - that we have gone backwards from the days of the MLK,Jr. civil rights movement - and that the effort and sacrifice of lives is for naught - sacrificed to the modern DPST/ccp agenda of 'equity'- a false promise that will result in the Venezuelization of the coming marxist Amerika.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

And you wonder why you get labeled a racist. Oh how could that be. I think I know the answer though.

He is kenyan! Whats racist bout dat?
Nice try though!?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

He is kenyan! Whats racist bout dat?
Nice try though!?

You think Obama was born in Kenya?

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by WTF

You think Obama was born in Kenya?

YES!

Regardless hes of kenyan descent!

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

YES!

Regardless hes of kenyan descent!

Actually he’s of American descent.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Actually he’s of American descent.

His roots come from kenya.
And he was born there!

Barack Obama Sr. - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Barack_Obama_Sr
Barack Hussein Obama Sr was a Kenyan senior governmental economist and the father of Barack Obama, the 44th president of the United States

But please proceed!

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

More "whataboutism". Every time you make a comparison, what came before compared to now you are using "whataboutism" but then you knew that, right?

You truly don’t understand what it means. I though you were being obtuse intentionally but instead maybe on this you really are just obtuse. Let me once more give you an example.

PersonA “hey Biden is passing legislation with no republicans, that’s not very bipartisan” - the implication of the statement is thatBiden is being a partisan.

Person Bs response instead of discussing whether Biden is in fact being a partisan responds making making an unrelated equivalency by saying “well, Trump passed legislation without democrats” - the implication being that Biden’s behavior is OK because Trump did it. As in but whatabout Trumps actions instead of Discussing Biden’s action.

Now that differs greatly from making a comparison
Person A - “during the Trump years unemployment dropped 1.7%”
Person B - “during Obama’s term unemployment dropped 5%”.
That’s a simple comparison. Not a Whataboutism. I can’t help you more than I’ve tried.

You Whataboutism over and over because you can’t help it.
Person A “Hey people tried to overthrow the capital and killed 5 people.”
You - “people ran rampant in Portland and 15 people died during a riot”. Nothing to do with one another but YOU try to equivocate the events in a Whataboutism. Rather than discussing the merits of what occurred at the Capitol somehow in your mind those things need to be discussed together.

One day you’ll grow beyond the limitations of your argument style. One day.