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			11-18-2020, 10:46 AM
			
			
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				In the 1980’s Piper went bankrupt and Cessna quit manufacturing propeller aircraft because of product liability lawsuits. I’m not sure what happened to Beechcraft but in the back of my mind remember reading that propeller aircraft manufacturing had disappeared from the USA at one time because of lawsuits. I’m not sure though. 
			
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cessna merged with Textron when they were bought out. Textron is still manufacturing Cessnas.
 
Textron bought out Beechcraft.  those 2 former companies merged to form Textron Aviation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-18-2020, 10:48 AM
			
			
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				says the lockdown lover 
			
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you're confusing Tiny with Lucas McCain.  didn't he say he was a lockdown lover???   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-18-2020, 10:57 AM
			
			
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				^^ Right And Pfizer started out with 90% and when the other company sad 92 % then Pfizer said oh wait 95% so the games afoot , Me NO and Hell NO ,  
Per the CDC s own data under 70 -99.6 cure rate over 70 95% so were is  the need 
			
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There are some locations where it has been proven that you are more likely to catch the coronavirus than in other locations -- restaurants, bars, and gyms. And cruise ships. A few cruise ships have started up and almost immediately there was a COVID-19 breakout on one of them. I am booked on a June cruise and I certainly want that vaccine in me prior to boarding that ship. The whole travel industry has been devastated by the pandemic. Anyone who plans to get on a plane will want that vaccine.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-18-2020, 02:36 PM
			
			
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				cessna merged with Textron when they were bought out. Textron is still manufacturing Cessnas. 
 
 
Textron bought out Beechcraft.  those 2 former companies merged to form Textron Aviation. 
			
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This provides some detail about the demise of the manufacture of propeller aircraft in the USA in the 1980's, and its resuscitation after the General Aviation Revitalization Act was passed in 1994, which limited the manufacturer's liability on aircraft older than 18 years:
 https://blog.globalair.com/post/2015...on-Act-of-1994
Here's an example of what was going on,
 Between 1983 - 86, Beech Aircraft defended itself against 203 lawsuits, each case costing them an average $530,000 to defend. Interestingly, while researching these cases, the NTSB found that none of the accidents could be attributed to manufacturing and design defects. Most were simply pilot error or another indirect fault. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-18-2020, 03:51 PM
			
			
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				you're confusing Tiny with Lucas McCain.  didn't he say he was a lockdown lover???    
			
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They're both lockdown lovers, as far as I'm concerned. They love to weigh the pros and cons and fantasize about a second round. Tiny is pretending like it's really me who wants lockdowns, and not him. The logic is very simple. When you don't lockdown, the virus spreads. Therefore, you need another lockdown. So, by me not wanting a lockdown, I am inevitably paving the way for another lockdown. This is the logic of a lockdown lover.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-18-2020, 03:58 PM
			
			
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			11-18-2020, 04:24 PM
			
			
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				They're both lockdown lovers, as far as I'm concerned. They love to weigh the pros and cons and fantasize about a second round. Tiny is pretending like it's really me who wants lockdowns, and not him. The logic is very simple. When you don't lockdown, the virus spreads. Therefore, you need another lockdown. So, by me not wanting a lockdown, I am inevitably paving the way for another lockdown. This is the logic of a lockdown lover. 
			
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I didn't say we "need another lockdown." I said I don't like lockdowns, and they didn't work where I live.  See the Lockdown thread. I don't have any power to impose a lockdown anyway.  And yes, if the virus spreads because people don't exercise common sense, the public and politicians are more likely to demand a lockdown.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-18-2020, 04:26 PM
			
			
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			11-18-2020, 10:14 PM
			
			
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Are you going to keep doing this childish stuff when you finally become an adult? 
 
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			11-18-2020, 11:30 PM
			
			
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				Are you going to keep doing this childish stuff when you finally become an adult?  
 
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Maybe not.  He's growing up right in front of our eyes.  This morning he was calling me "Commie Fag Boy."  Now it's "lockdown lover," much better. He's still got a long way to go, but I think he's maturing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-19-2020, 04:56 AM
			
			
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			You enjoy musing over lockdowns and claimed they were effective in some cases and even a necessity in others. These are tell tale signs of a lockdown lover.  
 
I admit that you seem to be a little less infatuated with them than others. However, the more you fantasize about another lockdown and the rush you will get from forcing millions of people to obey their Orwellian orders, the deeper you will fall in love, until you are entirely obsessed. 
 
Your denial will inevitably pull you deeper into your lockdown love. I'm afraid it's only a matter of time. Unfortunately for you, it is not possible to be a lockdown lover without also being a commie fag boy.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-19-2020, 06:17 AM
			
			
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			90 percent effective? At what? Causing side effects? Birth defects? No thanks.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-19-2020, 08:39 AM
			
			
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			^^ just look to the Merck manual & VAERS , In 2010 the FDA said  only about one % of serious adverse effects ( u know like death brain damage etc)  are reported as of 2010 352,650 reported / By there own math the real total is more like 35.2 BILLION ( FDA comm David Kessler stated )  
  
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			11-19-2020, 09:22 AM
			
			
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				90 percent effective? At what? Causing side effects? Birth defects? No thanks. 
			
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Fetch me a drink...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-19-2020, 09:38 AM
			
			
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			Stick your hand in the sand , the side effects are real
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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