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Old 10-29-2020, 11:13 AM   #31
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Yea. These conflicting results kind of suggest the CDC still doesn't know wtf they are talking about.
You forget... Donald Trump is controlling what comes out.
Any wonder it all seems like lies?
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Old 10-29-2020, 11:23 AM   #32
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Well I had it back in March and I can’t tell you enough how full of shit you are.
I was sick as fuck for 8 days and my lungs are still coughing.
I’m not that old, not fat at all, no health problems prior.
Pray your luck last... personally I hope you get and die for being a walking beacon of complete stupidity.
I am 73, I had it 9 weeks ago, never really got that sick. I just felt bad for about 5 or 6 days. I did loose most of my sense of taste.

After 18 days, I was tested negative, and the blood serum test showed I had a high antibody count, this meant my immune system recognized it and fought it off.

Perhaps your immune system is compromised.
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Old 10-29-2020, 11:30 AM   #33
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I fought it off in 8 days, never sick enough to go to hospital, just a little worse than a bad flu, but it caused lung scaring.
Funny thing is that I had minimum respiratory symptoms.
Glad you didn’t get that.
This is what can happen

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Old 10-29-2020, 11:59 AM   #34
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Nothing wrong with relating individual covid survival stories, but in truth they are considered anecdotal evidence in medical circles and are largely not viewed as proof af any generality. I'm always amazed at the focus on numbers, definitions of a case, and accuracy of testing. So what if they're off by "x" percent? We have quickly forgotten what happened to NYC (not to mention Italy) and some of the scenes from their ICUs and morgue. That was REAL, not a statistical aberration and hospitals in some states are again beginning to show a potential recurrence.
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Old 10-29-2020, 12:06 PM   #35
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Trump likes to blame it on testing.
Testing is not overflowing the hospitals, that’s dying people.
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Old 10-29-2020, 12:49 PM   #36
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Well I had it back in March and I can’t tell you enough how full of shit you are.
I was sick as fuck for 8 days and my lungs are still coughing.
I’m not that old, not fat at all, no health problems prior.
Pray your luck last... personally I hope you get and die for being a walking beacon of complete stupidity.

And your comment is not very accurate either. Since then the virus has probably mutated a few times. Doctors have learned how to treat it better, and death rates have gone down. Plus, we really don't know how many cases there have actually been in the United States because it is pretty doubtful we have even tested 50% of the actual cases. Not sure how many never had symptoms and never got tested.


I think they do have a better handle on what the actual high risk situations of someone may be, but they sure have not told people yet.
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Old 10-29-2020, 01:06 PM   #37
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Nothing wrong with relating individual covid survival stories, but in truth they are considered anecdotal evidence in medical circles and are largely not viewed as proof af any generality. I'm always amazed at the focus on numbers, definitions of a case, and accuracy of testing. So what if they're off by "x" percent? We have quickly forgotten what happened to NYC (not to mention Italy) and some of the scenes from their ICUs and morgue. That was REAL, not a statistical aberration and hospitals in some states are again beginning to show a potential recurrence.
It’s crazy isn’t it. Hospitals are becoming overloaded again. They’re putting up tents in El Paso for Covid patients. You don’t need a good memory, you just need to observe what’s happening around you now. We’re most likely in for a very rough winter
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It's surging all over the world, because surprise surprise, locking the economy down doesn't kill it off. The "experts" had no clue wtf they were doing, and it's worse now than it ever was. What's the solution "experts?" Lockdown again? Wear a god damn mask until 2022?

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You forget... Donald Trump is controlling what comes out.
Any wonder it all seems like lies?
How? You think T R U M P is controlling what papers are being published by the scientific community and what dumb thing the CDC says next?
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Old 10-29-2020, 04:51 PM   #39
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Dude are you stupid? Many from the cdc have said Trump is censoring them... (on the news directly speaking to the camera) the fucking idiot took reporting away from cdc and gave it to HHS (only to
return it a couple days later) because he wanted them to say what he wants.
At one point Trump even said everything coronavirus had to filter thru him
He replaced Fauci with Birx to control everything said. (which failed because about two weeks in she was saying the exact same things as Fauci)
Pull your head out of your ass and pay attention.
The level of stupidity and obliviousness in you dumb fucking Republican parrots is astounding.
You wonder why the blue wave is gonna clean you idiots out?
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Old 10-29-2020, 06:11 PM   #40
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Nothing wrong with relating individual covid survival stories, but in truth they are considered anecdotal evidence in medical circles and are largely not viewed as proof af any generality. I'm always amazed at the focus on numbers, definitions of a case, and accuracy of testing. So what if they're off by "x" percent? We have quickly forgotten what happened to NYC (not to mention Italy) and some of the scenes from their ICUs and morgue. That was REAL, not a statistical aberration and hospitals in some states are again beginning to show a potential recurrence.
But what these anecdotal instances show is that just like most bacterial and viral infections, there are those that seem to handle the infection well, and others do not.

I have had the flu several times in my life. The first time was in the Army in 1968. I got sick, really sick. But it passed.

What it come down to is are we going to accept the facts of infections and not let them be our ruination, or are we going to surrender, curl up in a ball and whine.

I had it. It wasn’t that bad. And even though I am in a high risk group because of my age, the antibody test proves my immune system did it’s job.
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Old 10-29-2020, 06:29 PM   #41
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What's the solution "experts?" Wear a god damn mask until 2022?



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Yes....how hard is that?....along with a vaccine and we'll be done with this and you will not overload hospitals. That is the key.

Follow wtf the Asian nations have done.



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Old 10-29-2020, 06:45 PM   #42
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The Biden/Khumholla spin in the past month was more shut down, mask mandates, etc... question truly is "Would they really carry it out after elected and in office in mid January?"
Amazes me just how gullible the American public his supporting this vomit flowing out of those two.

There are millions of these viruses out there in the world. The longer humans are around, the more they play with animals and experiment with them and the viruses the more likely stuff like this will continue to happen if try to fight it. Was there an unknown virus attacking us 10 years ago? 5 years ago? How about last year, was COVID here then? What about Scarlet fever, Cancer (could still be a virus), Measles, etc..
I applaud Trump for his job. Could it have been better? Sure it could, but thats easy to say when looking back. He was criticized for not acting hard and fast enough. Then he was criticized for acting too hard creating all these jobs lost; And was also criticized for downplaying it in the beginning. He chose to save lives by implementing a task force, shutting down travel, and suggesting power to the states to close businesses. Would another President do that or just let the virus go do its thing? Is there a right answer?

Trump has walked a fine line with this virus trying to accommodate things both ways. I think he and his staff should be commended.

A good Doctor I know told me in late February that by the time a vaccine comes around we probably won't even need it.
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Old 10-29-2020, 06:47 PM   #43
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Yes....how hard is that?....along with a vaccine and we'll be done with this and you will not overload hospitals. That is the key.

Follow wtf the Asian nations have done.
When you talk about masks being mandated until 2022, I think it suggests that social distancing and lockdowns will still be in effect, which means my dumb ass will prob lose my job again and get on food stamps.
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The antibodies in the virus fade in 3-5 months, that means a vaccine is very unlikely for a long time.
Viruses tend to only be suppressed, not go away.
They’re even saying right now that the vaccine will only suppress symptoms not kill or prevent the virus.
It’s not going anywhere for years.
Even with a vaccine... you’ll have people that won’t take it and reinfect the whole world again , and again. (if Trump had stayed out of it I would have trusted the science, but with his rushing I’m not gonna be gorped out by some untested shit).
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The antibodies in the virus fade in 3-5 months, that means a vaccine is very unlikely for a long time.
Viruses tend to only be suppressed, not go away.
They’re even saying right now that the vaccine will only suppress symptoms not kill or prevent the virus.
It’s not going anywhere for years.
Even with a vaccine... you’ll have people that won’t take it and reinfect the whole world again , and again. (if Trump had stayed out of it I would have trusted the science, but with his rushing I’m not gonna be gorped out by some untested shit).
China has no problems shutting down their economy because they are a communist state prepared to handle those matters. When other countries have to do it it makes China more powerful and the others weaker. This may not blow up into a purposeful bioweapon but it has all the looks of one.

There are drugs available for people to try when there is no cure. It works for some and not others. I don't know the facts surrounding antibody fade in 3-5 months and how that impacts vaccine potential.
But Scientists are not always right either.
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