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		|  09-24-2020, 08:03 PM | #16 |  
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			I just want to watch basketball. I don't care what Jalen Rose has to say unless it has to do with basketball. I don't watch ESPN for political opinions from anyone. There are plenty of other channels to watch for politics. They need to just stick to sports like they have in the past.
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		|  09-25-2020, 04:50 AM | #17 |  
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			These are the 'authoritative sources' for eh DPST'sCelebrities and athletes - who by their entitlement - know they are better to rule America than the 'poor little people'.   Entitled, elitist, arrogant, patronizing DPST's!.
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		|  09-25-2020, 10:19 PM | #18 |  
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			well Sir Chuck and Shaq see a clear distinction  between Taylor and the rest of the cases. they avoid the 900 gorilla .. resisting arrest but do see the actions of the police given what was known at the time as valid and it was not a true no-knock entry the bf did fire first, under the assumption it was the "bad dude" ex-bf who Taylor had willingly continued to associate with and had more than enough tie-in to make her a possible suspect.  
the current bf panicked and had enough notice it was LMPD not the bad dude ex and he shoud be charged for the officer he shot
  
Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neil draw backlash for pushing back on Breonna Taylor outrage
https://sports.yahoo.com/charles-bar...051020472.html 
Many prominent figures in the sports world, including Los Angeles Lakers  star LeBron James  and Dallas Cowboys  quarterback Dak Prescott , have voiced their outrage  against the decision to not not charge Louisville police officers for the killing of Breonna Taylor .
 
The “Inside the NBA” crew on TNT offered a different reaction on Thursday, led by Charles Barkley.
Charles Barkley on Breonna Taylor: Not the same as George Floyd or Ahmaud Arbery 
Before Thursday’s game between the Lakers and Denver Nuggets ,  Barkley said that Taylor’s case shouldn’t be “lumped” in with the  killings of George Floyd and Ahmaud Arbery. He pointed to Taylor’s  boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, firing on the plainclothes Louisville police  officers that were executing a no-knock search warrant as a reason why.
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Charles Barkley says you can't put the Breonna Taylor case in the same situation as George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery because her boyfriend shot at the police
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From The Hollywood Reporter :  "I  don't think this one was like George Floyd or Ahmaud Arbery and things  like that," Barkley began. "I feel sad that this young lady lost her  life. I think this one was — the no-knock warrant is something we need  to get rid of ... across the board. But I am worried to lump all these  situations in together."
 He continued, "And I just feel bad that  the young lady lost her life. But we do have to take into account that  her boyfriend shot at the cops and shot a cop. So like I say, even  though I am really sorry she lost her life, I just don't think we can  put this in the same situation as George Floyd or Ahmaud Arbery."
 
 Barkley found some agreement from his co-hosts, including Shaquille O’Neal:  "I  have to agree with Charles, this one is sort of lumped in," O'Neal  said. "You have to get a warrant signed and some states do allow  no-knock warrants. And everyone was asking for murder charges. When you  talk about murder, you have to show intent. A homicide occurred and  we're sorry a homicide occurred. When you have a warrant signed by the  judge, you are doing your job, and I would imagine that you would fire  back."
 
 It’s worth noting that O’Neal has long expressed an affinity for the police, once even being deputized in a county in Georgia . 
Barkley also dismissed the “Defund the Police” movement that has emerged in the wake of the killings of Floyd and Taylor.
 
not going to post all those twittybirds but you can if you like here is the link to Sir Chuck's take.
 
He and Shaq are right. 
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		|  09-26-2020, 04:05 AM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chung Tran  ...The optics are terrible. and you wonder why some are calling for police defunding? ... |  
So let me see if I understand this correctly, as I would view it from my own perspective: 
1st - clearly the police knocked at the door. Otherwise, neither of them would have gotten up to go to the door in the first place. Personally, I doubt the police taped gently on the door. Maybe the 1st time, maybe. My guess is they pounded on the door, repeatedly. There would be no way possible that they would not also announce who they were, otherwise people might tend to shoot at them.
 
Now, I don't know about you or yours, but I have a general rule that has served me well: If an unknown person or persons are pounding on my door in the middle of the night there is exactly one thing I am not going to do; blindly open the frick'n door. Most likely I'm going to look out a window to see what is outside, carefully.
 
Now the second rule that has served me well; if the police are pounding on my door: do not have a gun in your hand and do not shoot at them. My experience is that will absolutely anger them and create an non-favorable response from them.
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		|  09-26-2020, 08:16 AM | #20 |  
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			The funny part is the "woke leftist " would have the same outcome under the laws ( didnt charge boyfriend who shot cop ) Again selective delusional memory
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		|  09-26-2020, 08:39 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chung Tran  AG Daniel Cameron could have charged one or more Officers himself. He declined. Grand Jury indicts one Officer for recklessly shooting into an adjacent apartment.. I.E., property is more valuable than a Black Woman, who was shot many times, no medical help for 20 minutes after. a no knock warrant (disputed), no bodycams. Dude Cops were looking for was already in custody. Cameron is black, married a white woman 8 weeks ago, who may (not confirmed, but circulating as a rumor) be Mitch McConnell' s grand daughter. McConnel was at the small, less than 10 guests, wedding, that is known. and Cameron made Trump's list of potential SC choices.
 The optics are terrible. and you wonder why some are calling for police defunding? Meaning take a chunk of money from the police budget, and direct to social groups, mental health, etc. Not abolish police entirely. I know y'all like to demagouge that issue, and bullshit about the real meaning of defund.
 
 I'm sure Kentucky will see rioting tonight.
 
 Here to see how far to the right the comments will stretch. I will not post again in the thread. No point. Just more Mule-fucking.
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You leave out a few things; ignorance or being a useful idiot? 
The police officers had a "no knock" warrant from January which was months old  The officers did knock at the door so the whole "no knock" warrant is moot. 
Wrong apartment:  No, this was the correct apartment, Breonna's apartment where it was suspected, with cause, that Taylor's ex was stashing drugs and cash...in January.  So it was the correct apartment but the info was out of date. 
The police officers knocked for about 10 minutes and identified themselves repeatedly according to witnesses.  At 0040, the officers forced the door and entered.  Taylor's boyfriend, who had a licensed Glock, fired as the police entered.  His defense was that just because someone says they are the police doesn't make it so in that neighborhood.  He hit an officer in the leg.  The police returned fire with the bullets passing down the hallway hitting Breonna.  She was not in bed as was alleged.  The one officer who was indicted, was indicted for firing blindly into the next door apartment where people were living.   
So the officers were within their orders to go into the apartment.   
The officer in charge was negligent for having an old warrant. 
The boyfriend initiated the fight with his Glock.  The police correctly returned fire.  This is not television where the sensitive police officer knows that returning fire is the wrong thing to do. 
The police were correct in defending themselves. 
Was the boyfriend lying about his belief that the intruders were drug dealers instead of cops...we may never know but the mob has accepted that theory. 
The one cop who was indicted...he appears to have either panicked or was poorly trained.  The worse thing he could have been charged with was manslaughter but grand jury decided that his intent was not criminal, just negligent.
 
I think they charged them correctly and as for the mob...they were going to riot know matter the findings.  Accept the obvious Chung.
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		|  09-26-2020, 08:41 AM | #22 |  
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			Well written - TBC!I must say - Truth and FACTs are never 'obvious ' to DPST;s in their deflection and denial from LSM propaganda brainwashing.
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		|  09-26-2020, 10:51 AM | #23 |  
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			This is where we are at. It doesn't matter whether there is a warrant for arrest and the subject violently resists. It doesn't matter if the subject is an abuser of women. If the subject is Black, no matter the law, no matter the reasonableness of the apprehension, they can not be touched. How do you think that is going to work out?
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		|  09-26-2020, 11:05 AM | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by HedonistForever  This is where we are at. It doesn't matter whether there is a warrant for arrest and the subject violently resists. It doesn't matter if the subject is an abuser of women. If the subject is Black, no matter the law, no matter the reasonableness of the apprehension, they can not be touched. How do you think that is going to work out? |  
cops will begin to refuse to serve warrants on blacks, leaving them to continue their oppression of fellow blacks
 
also whats up with benjamin crump, the black attorney, part and parcel of the lies establishing the blm movement, unable to distinguish truth and or at least speak truth, its got to be more than just being the legal mouthpiece. he is instigating and aiding and abetting violence, burning looting and murder. there was no hands up don't shoot, there was no murder of breonna and he stands there fomenting
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		|  09-28-2020, 08:42 AM | #25 |  
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			TBC correct , and they didn't know she was there at first, Drug dealer that gave her up was that the only information for warrant , chance judge ? No criminal history and warrant middle of night ?Issue really is we need smaller guberment less warrants war on drugs ? it was gonna be border stopping of drugs ?
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		|  09-28-2020, 10:27 AM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by rexdutchman  TBC correct , and they didn't know she was there at first, Drug dealer that gave her up was that the only information for warrant , chance judge ? No criminal history and warrant middle of night ?Issue really is we need smaller guberment less warrants war on drugs ? it was gonna be border stopping of drugs ?
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it was bad intel to begin with. they didn't vet the outdated info to make sure its correct before going to the apt.
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		|  09-28-2020, 11:30 AM | #27 |  
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					Originally Posted by rexdutchman  TBC correct , and they didn't know she was there at first, Drug dealer that gave her up was that the only information for warrant , chance judge ? No criminal history and warrant middle of night ?Issue really is we need smaller guberment less warrants war on drugs ? it was gonna be border stopping of drugs ?
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I agree. There is plenty to complain about and YES reform but there was no criminal act to prosecute. There are a dozen different ways this could have been done better. Doesn't make it illegal unless there is something we haven't been told yet. 
 
I see the media says they have interviewed the witness that apparently testified before the Grand Jury, according to the AG and produced an audio recording, so they say, recanting his testimony that the police identified themselves and that the cops own ballistics department can't confirm who shot the cop even though the boyfriend was using a 9 mill ammo and the cops 40 cal.
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		|  09-28-2020, 11:54 AM | #28 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chung Tran  ...I.E., property is more valuable than a Black Woman, who was shot many times, no medical help for 20 minutes after. a no knock warrant (disputed), no bodycams. Dude Cops were looking for was already in custody. Cameron is black, married a white woman 8 weeks ago, who may (not confirmed, but circulating as a rumor) be Mitch McConnell' s grand daughter. McConnel was at the small, less than 10 guests, wedding, that is known. and Cameron made Trump's list of potential SC choices.
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Where'd ya go?  Make a bunch of false allegations and rumors and you leave?  Typical of CT.
 
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					Originally Posted by Lucas McCain  I just want to watch basketball. I don't care what Jalen Rose has to say unless it has to do with basketball. I don't watch ESPN for political opinions from anyone. There are plenty of other channels to watch for politics. They need to just stick to sports like they have in the past. |  
Looks like you finally woke up.
 
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					Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn  .....he appears to have either panicked or was poorly trained.  The worse thing he could have been charged with was manslaughter but grand jury decided that his intent was not criminal, just negligent.
 I think they charged them correctly and as for the mob...they were going to riot know matter the findings.  Accept the obvious Chung.
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Nobody knows how they're gonna react when the bullets start flying the first time.  What' I've heard is the officers who served the warrant were different than the officers who filled out the warrant and got it signed.  If true, I hold the arresting officers blameless other than not wearing body cameras.  They should of had low light body cameras and turned on.
 
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					Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought  cops will begin to refuse to serve warrants on blacks, leaving them to continue their oppression of fellow blacks
 also whats up with benjamin crump, the black attorney, part and parcel of the lies establishing the blm movement, unable to distinguish truth and or at least speak truth, its got to be more than just being the legal mouthpiece. he is instigating and aiding and abetting violence, burning looting and murder. there was no hands up don't shoot, there was no murder of breonna and he stands there fomenting
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Yep.  Really it's all part of his plan of getting a massive check.
 
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					Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm  it was bad intel to begin with. they didn't vet the outdated info to make sure its correct before going to the apt. |  
We need to hold those officers and the judge who signed off accountable. No more "they bought me a pile of warrants that I just signed" excuses.  Same excuse used for the FISA courts.
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		|  09-28-2020, 12:14 PM | #29 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chung Tran  AG Daniel Cameron could have charged one or more Officers himself. He declined. Grand Jury indicts one Officer for recklessly shooting into an adjacent apartment.. I.E., property is more valuable than a Black Woman, who was shot many times, no medical help for 20 minutes after. a no knock warrant (disputed), no bodycams. Dude Cops were looking for was already in custody. Cameron is black, married a white woman 8 weeks ago, who may (not confirmed, but circulating as a rumor) be Mitch McConnell' s grand daughter. McConnel was at the small, less than 10 guests, wedding, that is known. and Cameron made Trump's list of potential SC choices.
 The optics are terrible. and you wonder why some are calling for police defunding? Meaning take a chunk of money from the police budget, and direct to social groups, mental health, etc. Not abolish police entirely. I know y'all like to demagouge that issue, and bullshit about the real meaning of defund.
 
 I'm sure Kentucky will see rioting tonight.
 
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It is UNDISPUTED that the boyfriend fired first and shot the first cop to enter the apartment.  The other cops then returned fire.  The pussy boyfriend dove on the floor and his girlfriend got shot standing behind him.  Neither of them was in be as the BLM crowd insists.
 
I cannot fault the grand jury or the AG.  Her death is tragic, but it was NOT a murder.
 
And give the "optics" bullshit a rest.  Do you think Mitch McConnell would risk his career by interfering in a police investigation?  He has nothing to do with state government or policing.  He is a member of the federal government.
 
The left is at a stage that they no longer require evidence of wrongdoing and will not tolerate due process.  The crowd demands an outcome based strictly on racial criteria and that is all that matters.  If they don't get their way, they riot.  They are a lynch mob in the making.  But they call themselves "woke".
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		|  09-28-2020, 04:13 PM | #30 |  
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			K - i agree with your psot 
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