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Old 08-14-2020, 12:57 PM   #76
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her parents were not naturalized citizens when she was born.


don't think that really matters too much.
I disagree - read the original text:

Section 1, Clause 1, of the Fourteenth Amendment, reads: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.


Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94

Nevertheless, if she wins the Presidency via the electoral college and the expected Biden abdication, she gets to be President - the child of Berkely radicals and the left will have conquered the United States from within.


Also, the history of the United States will be rewritten to suit them.
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:05 PM   #77
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I am not a lawyer - but let's not go down the rabbithole of citizenship again.

harris was born in America. That gives her citizenship regardless.

Untill we choose to change the Constitution to exclude 'birther babies' - born here deliberately from foreign nationals to have a claim on US residency.



we can change the law - but Once Bide/harris are elected - forget that - it will be open borders and citizenship upon arrival to all - and they don't care about the gangs, drugs, andmurders carried in by their new "citizens".
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:09 PM   #78
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How else could they win?

Fake mailed ballots and open borders to send more mailed ballots.
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:19 PM   #79
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Biden administration will declare all residents of Mexico, Central and South America to be citizens of the US and entitled to vote DPST.
But not Canada.
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Old 08-14-2020, 05:47 PM   #80
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I am not a lawyer - but let's not go down the rabbithole of citizenship again.

harris was born in America. That gives her citizenship regardless.

Untill we choose to change the Constitution to exclude 'birther babies' - born here deliberately from foreign nationals to have a claim on US residency.



we can change the law - but Once Bide/harris are elected - forget that - it will be open borders and citizenship upon arrival to all - and they don't care about the gangs, drugs, andmurders carried in by their new "citizens".
My argument is an interpretation of the constitution argument and is not hopeless with the correct Supreme Court - which might never happen.
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Old 08-14-2020, 06:35 PM   #81
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her parents were not naturalized citizens when she was born.


don't think that really matters too much.
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I disagree - read the original text:

Section 1, Clause 1, of the Fourteenth Amendment, reads: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.


Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94

Nevertheless, if she wins the Presidency via the electoral college and the expected Biden abdication, she gets to be President - the child of Berkely radicals and the left will have conquered the United States from within.


Also, the history of the United States will be rewritten to suit them.



it may very well matter, especially if Joey Corn Poop Biden wins and then proceeds to drown himself in a bowl of chicken soup in Mary Hartman's basement.


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Old 08-14-2020, 08:33 PM   #82
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she reminds of a high school vice principle with saggy tits
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Old 08-14-2020, 11:18 PM   #83
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I disagree - read the original text:

Section 1, Clause 1, of the Fourteenth Amendment, reads: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94

Nevertheless, if she wins the Presidency via the electoral college and the expected Biden abdication, she gets to be President - the child of Berkely radicals and the left will have conquered the United States from within.

Also, the history of the United States will be rewritten to suit them.

you left out this one case that matters, wong vs. U.S. this is more to Kamala situation.



american born chinese man of chinese parents who immigrated to the U.S. the court ruled that he was an american citizen.


heres the thing, the parents came to this country legally. since they got permission to come to this country to live and work, that puts them under the jurisdiction of america, not the country of origin they came from.
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Old 08-15-2020, 12:11 AM   #84
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heres the thing, the parents came to this country legally. since they got permission to come to this country to live and work, that puts them under the jurisdiction of america, not the country of origin they came from.
Unfriendly Racist Jew Fred is grasping for straws now and that's such a lame argument by him. Give me a break. Be smarter than a rock.

If you don't like her, that's cool. Don't claim she is not an American citizen and make yourself look like a complete dipshit, Frederick. Be better than that and get some common sense. Where did your Jew ass come here from? Are you American? Yes. Don't be silly, racist and stupid all at the same time.

We are all descendants from somewhere outside of this country. We were born here. Those are the facts. We're Americans and you don't get to take that privilege away from someone regardless of your disdain for them because of their color and your racist bullshit.
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Old 08-15-2020, 02:06 AM   #85
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grab 'em by the pussy? that was locker room talk.
What locker room has Trump ever been in? His ankles are so bad he got out of being drafted into the military.
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Old 08-15-2020, 02:52 AM   #86
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That was tour bus talk.

Say what you want about it, it's probably true. I'm sure plenty of women would have loved for T R U M P to grab them by their pussies, especially in H I S younger years.

You have to put things into context. H E is a famous billionaire, not some weird schmuck who uses public transportation. I would probably be down if H E fingered my asshole. Why? Because H E is rich and powerful. At the very least, it would lead to an extravagant adventure upon which I wouldn't have to pay for shit. Additionally, it would be a great networking opportunity.
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Old 08-15-2020, 03:50 AM   #87
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What locker room has Trump ever been in? His ankles are so bad he got out of being drafted into the military.

what a joke you are making of yourself. of course Trump didn't have bone spurs. he was in fact a star baseball player at his academy and was considered a major league prospect.



you seem to forget that Corn Poop Biden also dodged Vietnam, as did Slick Willie Clinton. Biden took deferments. Clinton actually LIED to join ROTC to get out of the draft then quit when he knew he wasn't going to be drafted. BushieII joined the Air National Guard.


BushieII can actually fly a fighter jet. can u?


they were all draft dodgers.

so .. what's your point??


BAHHHAAAAAAAAAA
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Old 08-15-2020, 07:37 AM   #88
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you left out this one case that matters, wong vs. U.S. this is more to Kamala situation.



american born chinese man of chinese parents who immigrated to the U.S. the court ruled that he was an american citizen.


heres the thing, the parents came to this country legally. since they got permission to come to this country to live and work, that puts them under the jurisdiction of america, not the country of origin they came from.
You are misinterpreting what it means to be "subject to the juridiction thereof".

"The language of Article II is that one must be a natural-born citizen. The original Constitution did not define citizenship, but the 14th Amendment does—and it provides that "all persons born...in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens." Those who claim that birth alone is sufficient overlook the second phrase. The person must also be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States, and that meant subject to the complete jurisdiction, not merely a partial jurisdiction such as that which applies to anyone temporarily sojourning in the United States (whether lawfully or unlawfully). Such was the view of those who authored the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause; of the Supreme Court of the United States in the 1872 Slaughter-House Cases and the 1884 case of Elk v. Wilkins; of Thomas Cooley, the leading constitutional treatise writer of the day; and of the State Department, which, in the 1880s, issued directives to U.S. embassies to that effect."

https://www.newsweek.com/some-questi...pinion-1524483
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Old 08-15-2020, 07:41 AM   #89
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Unfriendly Racist Jew Fred is grasping for straws now and that's such a lame argument by him. Give me a break. Be smarter than a rock.

If you don't like her, that's cool. Don't claim she is not an American citizen and make yourself look like a complete dipshit, Frederick. Be better than that and get some common sense. Where did your Jew ass come here from? Are you American? Yes. Don't be silly, racist and stupid all at the same time.

We are all descendants from somewhere outside of this country. We were born here. Those are the facts. We're Americans and you don't get to take that privilege away from someone regardless of your disdain for them because of their color and your racist bullshit.
Lucas the Dufus is ignoring my comments about the subject:

"Nevertheless, if she wins the Presidency via the electoral college and the expected Biden abdication, she gets to be President - the child of Berkely radicals and the left will have conquered the United States from within.


Also, the history of the United States will be rewritten to suit them."

I am presenting the argument, albeit a minority argument that few are inclined to agree with at this time, by a Law Professor.

JOHN C. EASTMAN , PROFESSOR OF LAW, CHAPMAN UNIVERSITY AND SENIOR FELLOW, CLAREMONT INSTITUTE

Now, I'm about to present an argument many people agree with: Lucas likes to suck cock.
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FF-"Nevertheless, if she wins the Presidency via the electoral college and the expected Biden abdication, she gets to be President - the child of Berkely radicals and the left will have conquered the United States from within.


Also, the history of the United States will be rewritten to suit them."


ON This - I agree with You


K harris is no more black than Trump - just an indian brown girl poised to be the first marxist POTUS!
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