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07-09-2020, 06:17 PM
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I started a thread about it. For 30-40 years the Dems have insisted Lincoln was a democrat. They shouted it at awards shows, talk shows, news propoganda...then over night, "Lincoln was a Republican. And a racist. Tear him down."
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07-09-2020, 07:00 PM
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I started a thread about it. For 30-40 years the Dems have insisted Lincoln was a democrat. They shouted it at awards shows, talk shows, news propoganda...then over night, "Lincoln was a Republican. And a racist. Tear him down."
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yeah i was going to post these articles there but i figured little ecky9.5k needed some edumacation on the subject.
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07-10-2020, 12:13 AM
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Then the Country is fucked, dumb on.
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No just Trump is fucked...the country ran fine before him...and will run even better after
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07-10-2020, 12:23 AM
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Yeah...Americans will revolt is they actually get healthcare.
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07-10-2020, 12:31 AM
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mostly agree - except the 2024 predictions will be carried out in 2020 if Biden wins - the LibDems have a house backlog of bills McConnell refused - and will pass all of the Scoialist dream/nightmare bills ASAP.
Prepare to see the Bankruptcy of america in 2022 - and an attempted marxist revolution from the radical house and POTUS who succeeded Biden.
Civil War breaks out in America.
Best to arm oneself and buy lots of ammo before the Libdems prohibit all ammo and arms.
And when they come for mine - i will die wishing lead poisoning on the confiscators.
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The leader of the Trumptard army....
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07-10-2020, 08:52 AM
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HF - your underlying assumption is the DNC and DPST's willplay by the rules et in the Constitution.
I disagree - if the DPST get a majority in both Houses and the POTUS - they will immediately subvert the Supreme court by putting in 9-13 radical judges - and takeove is complete. The constitution, rule of law , and Equality for all under the Rule of law mean nothing to the DPST's - their riots and looting - takeover of Capitol Hill, and OBLM riots - which they look at as 'Just business" - and per hannah Jones - "not violence' - is completely acceptable to the DPST's as reasonable behavior by their minions.
They will never give up power - after all - see the reaction to losing 2016 - they have been bent on regaining power - at all costs -Never to Be Relinquished - and that cost is a marxist revolution.
I would like to think you are correct.
I plan to be ready for armed resistance to the marxist dictatorship the DNC and DPST party are planning.
No, I'm under no allusion that if the Dem's win, they will play by the rules. They will do everything they can to try and cement the victory "for all time".
What I'm saying is that they will not be able to give the American people the "workers paradise" they are promising. That has been tried many times before and has always failed.
There are over 300 million guns in America unlike China, Russia, Venezuela etc. and I would dare say most are in the hands of Conservatives who will not stand idly by and watch their freedoms and their money taken from them for some abstract notion of saving the planet, social and financial justice for all which means confiscation if that's what it takes.
I don't think Americans will accept what I believe Democrats will try to do. There will be an election in 2 years and if things are as bad as I believe they will be, we will be on the road to getting back to the ideals that made us the greatest country in the world.
Americans will see and they will vote out any party that can't provide security for Americans.
It is as obvious as the nose on one's face that these Democrats have not a clue as to how they are going to control the monster they are creating.
HF - well written - I pray You are correct.
in the meantime - prepare for a major shitstorm from the enabled OBLM and other 'entitled terrorists" in the streets.
Arm yourselves - war is coming.
I pray we still have an election in 2022 when the results of marxist totalitarianism are enacted and understood. in America
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07-10-2020, 08:55 AM
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The leader of the Trumptard army.... 
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Nadler after losing some weight
Nice pic -mm
C/w the usual propaganda.
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07-11-2020, 01:52 AM
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Just an FYI - even Ann Coulter is calling for Mitch McConnell to lose badly.
She gave up on Trump a while ago.
Mitch won't do anything to cut off the supply of cheap foreign labor coming into the country. Too many corporate campaign contributions at stake.
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07-12-2020, 09:37 PM
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And now the "Stable Genius" is pushing Fauci out the door.
Fauci is doing his job and warning of the impending disaster and Trump is doing his best to downplay what Fauci is saying.
Trump has been doing that since the start of the pandemic. Because he is an egotistical cunt.
Read and weep for our country:
https://www.chron.com/news/article/F...s-15401980.php
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07-12-2020, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Kinkster90210
Just an FYI - even Ann Coulter is calling for Mitch McConnell to lose badly.
She gave up on Trump a while ago.
Mitch won't do anything to cut off the supply of cheap foreign labor coming into the country. Too many corporate campaign contributions at stake.
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Ann who?
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And now the "Stable Genius" is pushing Fauci out the door.
Fauci is doing his job and warning of the impending disaster and Trump is doing his best to downplay what Fauci is saying.
Trump has been doing that since the start of the pandemic. Because he is an egotistical cunt.
Read and weep for our country:
https://www.chron.com/news/article/F...s-15401980.php
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so you don't care one bit how many times fauci has been wrong. was he ever right? no masks. not a risk for the US. then this guy was suddenly Chicken Little.
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07-13-2020, 03:37 PM
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Ann who?
so you don't care one bit how many times fauci has been wrong. was he ever right? no masks. not a risk for the US. then this guy was suddenly Chicken Little.

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Show me where Fauci was "wrong". He has always assessed the risk in terms of a RANGE of possible outcomes based on the best available models. He never gave guarantees or downplayed the danger. Only Trump was stupid enough to do that.
Meanwhile idiots like you have been claiming CV is exaggerated or even a hoax, even as the case count and death count climb.
We typically have double anyone else's case count, even when weighted for population, and our death count is among the worst. The Europeans shut down their economies and controlled the pandemic and are emerging with less economic harm that we have. All because people want to go out and refuse to wear a mask.
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07-13-2020, 03:54 PM
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07-13-2020, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kinkster90210
Show me where Fauci was "wrong". He has always assessed the risk in terms of a RANGE of possible outcomes based on the best available models. He never gave guarantees or downplayed the danger. Only Trump was stupid enough to do that.
Meanwhile idiots like you have been claiming CV is exaggerated or even a hoax, even as the case count and death count climb.
We typically have double anyone else's case count, even when weighted for population, and our death count is among the worst. The Europeans shut down their economies and controlled the pandemic and are emerging with less economic harm that we have. All because people want to go out and refuse to wear a mask.
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I disagree. He's been wrong a lot. But when additional data became available he'd get back on the right track. This is far preferable to sticking to a position when you're wrong. And far, far preferable to going with your gut when you have no experience with and little knowledge of what you're dealing with.
There are some parallels between criticism of Fauci and criticism of forecasts, like the ones prepared by IHME/University of Washington, used to estimate cases, deaths, hospital bed and/or ventilator usage. IHME comes up with estimates based on the available data and specific assumptions. When the data changes or the assumptions change, they change their model. And when that happens their predictions can change radically. IHME has been kind of a laughingstock here, as people believed their numbers were far too pessimistic. Well, it turns out it's the other way around. For a given set of assumptions, I'd take their numbers over any of the self professed experts holding political positions. And similarly I'd believe Fauci over any of the politicians in the White House or state houses, even though Fauci has been wrong from time to time.
Fauci has shown himself to be flexible on re-openings, correctly cautioning the nation to proceed with masks and social distancing.
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07-13-2020, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kinkster90210
Show me where Fauci was "wrong". He has always assessed the risk in terms of a RANGE of possible outcomes based on the best available models. He never gave guarantees or downplayed the danger. Only Trump was stupid enough to do that.
Meanwhile idiots like you have been claiming CV is exaggerated or even a hoax, even as the case count and death count climb.
We typically have double anyone else's case count, even when weighted for population, and our death count is among the worst. The Europeans shut down their economies and controlled the pandemic and are emerging with less economic harm that we have. All because people want to go out and refuse to wear a mask.
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OK
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-wh...he-coronavirus
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an unnamed White House official told the Post “Several White House officials are concerned about the number of times Dr. Fauci has been wrong on things.” The official attached a list of incorrect predictions Fauci had made, including his doubts early on that asymptomatic spread would play a large role in transmission and a February assurance that Americans did not need to change their behavior. Like many other public health officials, Fauci said at first that masks were not necessary but recently recommended that they be mandated nationwide.
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So when Dr. Fauci told us that there was no need to change our behavior, he was just laying out a broad range of possibilities? Because that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.
But Dr. Fauci, like Trump but with admittedly a lot more authority on the subject, told us what he believed at the time with the information he had at the time but it turns out he was wrong just like Trump has been wrong, just like the CDC and the WHO have been wrong.
It is completely ridiculous and naive to try and make the case that Dr. Fauci was never wrong, he was but so was everybody else.
But with people like yourself, it is so important that you make Trump look wrong that you say things easily proven wrong because you just can't help yourself. It's that TDS that keeps people like you saying things you can't back up.
Dr. Fauci has not been right in everything he has said if you like that better than saying he has been wrong but he did not do it out of malice, try to make us believe things that weren't true. He said what he said at the time he said it based on a long career of dealing with infectious diseases.
I don't hold any of this against Dr. Fauci because people make mistakes even experts but then I don't hate Dr. Fauci like you do Trump and would never have brought up his mistakes if you hadn't asked for proof and I can't wait to hear you explain how assuring us that we would not have to change our behavior was anything other than a mistake, an honest mistake but a mistake none the less and I'd also bet you knew all this but that damn TDS just wouldn't allow you to admit it. Pitiful.
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07-13-2020, 04:19 PM
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I disagree. He's been wrong a lot. But when additional data became available he'd get back on the right track. This is far preferable to sticking to a position when you're wrong. And far, far preferable to going with your gut when you have no experience with and little knowledge of what you're dealing with.
There are some parallels between criticism of Fauci and criticism of forecasts, like the ones prepared by IHME/University of Washington, used to estimate cases, deaths, hospital bed and/or ventilator usage. IHME comes up with estimates based on the available data and specific assumptions. When the data changes or the assumptions change, they change their model. And when that happens their predictions can change radically. IHME has been kind of a laughingstock here, as people believed their numbers were far too pessimistic. Well, it turns out it's the other way around. For a given set of assumptions, I'd take their numbers over any of the self professed experts holding political positions. And similarly I'd believe Fauci over any of the politicians in the White House or state houses, even though Fauci has been wrong from time to time.
Fauci has shown himself to be flexible on re-openings, correctly cautioning the nation to proceed with masks and social distancing.
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And that is the big difference between Fauci, a doctor and Trump the politician. A politician finds it very difficult to change course even when it is obvious and sticks to what he said before even when proven wrong which I'm betting kinkster will try to do making him no different than Trump. That is normal for some people to speak against other people who hold the same "qualities" as the people they rail against.
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