Tucker Carlson reports

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by BlisswithKriss

When you claim that’s the best news available, then no wonder you continue to be ignorant and stupid

So you got your:

• Drunk crying ghey-guy on CNN Cooper
• Rachel Madcow
• Fredo
• Joy Behar-te-har-har
• Brian "Shake me up" Steltser

Yup, I wold say he was right. Ya'lls suck

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

I just don’t get all these people defending China, at best they were completely negligent and tried to cover it up. It’s like defending Hitler or Ho Chi-Minh. If you don’t like President Trump, fine, vote for the other guy, but siding with a genocidal communist dictatorship who just caused the death of tens of thousands of your own people, and hundreds of thousands worldwide, is beyond comprehension.

60% of dims blame President Trump for the coronavirus outbreak and not the commies

fairly high percentage, but then again mass hysteria is just that... mass

its what you get when you listen to and believe their news media, who only and always attempt to play the game of gotcha with President Trump and not be honest searchers for truth

its what you get when the dims world view is closer in solidarity with the communist chinese than with traditional americanism

one might think that after every failure, misreporting, being wrong about everything, assuming the worst at all times, and flat out lying through their teeth, and being constantly proven so, americans would quit listening to this media...but no the closed minds of the hateful 60% don't care

[oeb11]

None so blind as will not see
none so ignorant as will not .........

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by BlisswithKriss

The US numbers of victims of the virus are the highest in the world.

There’s a good reason for that.

The whole of the a Trump Administration ignored the early warning signs and Trumps total incompetence at recognizing the looming epidemic.
Even Israeli Intelligence warned him but he just laughed it off

You'll notice when I asked BWK where he or is it she, got that so called information, he or is it she wouldn't say but then that's what cowards do, they will never answer a question that they know will embarrass them.


So I figure what the heck, let me see if I can "dig up" his or is it her, source and here is what I found when I Googled "Israeli intelligence alerted Trump to corona virus in November"


https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


So lets look at a few and see what we got. Let's start with ABC news, the only MSM outlet that covered the "information".


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inte...ry?id=70031273


Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources



OH! Wait, that's the one that doesn't mention Israeli intelligence at all but what the heck, since I pulled it up, let's examine what it says.


"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," a source said.


Well surely they checked and got comments from government officials, right?


Editor's Note: This story has been updated to reflect comment from the Pentagon.

Oh! Good, a comment from the Pentagon.

"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," one of the sources said of the NCMI’s report. "It was then briefed multiple times to" the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House. Wednesday night, the Pentagon issued a statement denying the "product/assessment" existed.

Ops! But hey, you can't trust the Pentagon. An anonymous source is more reliable don't you know. Any further comments?



Asked about the November warning last Sunday on ABC’s "This Week," Defense Secretary Mark Esper told Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos, "I can't recall, George. But we have many people who watch this closely. We have the premier infectious disease research institute in America, within the United States Army. So, our people who work these issues directly watch this all the time."
Pressing the secretary, Stephanopoulos asked, "So, you would have known if there was briefed to the National Security Council in December, wouldn't you?"
Esper said, "Yes. I'm not aware of that."


Yeah but he can't talk about sensitive information now can he. I guess we'll just have to go with the anonymous source which always turns out to be true, right?


OK, lets move on still searching for "Israeli Intelligence" component of BWK's story.


https://politizoom.com/2020/04/17/israeli-paper-reports-trump-knew-about-covid-19-in-november-told-israel-nato-but-not-u-s/

US intelligence agencies alerted Israel to the coronavirus outbreak in China already in November, Israeli television reported Thursday.

Uh, wait a minute! Didn't BWK say that Israel alerted Trump? Innocent mistake or on purpose?
So, the "real story" which we will never know is true or not, seems to be that Trump was alerted by the National Center for Medical Intelligence

US intelligence informed the Trump administration, “which did not deem it of interest,” but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF. [Israel Defense Forces]
And just to make it a little more salacious

Did Donald Trump hide news of the coronavirus outbreak in China from Americans in November, because it suited his political agenda, yet he told Israel and NATO?

Oh! BOY! Now we got us a story, right? So Trump's political agenda was to tell Israel and every NATO country in the world something he didn't want Americans to hear because he was sure none of these countries would betray his "secret". Sounds credible, right? Nope.
So finally the big BWK secret is out. Trump was told, not by Israeli intelligence but our own and we told Israel, if you believe any of this and obviously BWK does even though he mixed up who told who whether by mistake or on purpose we will never know, that a virus had been detected in China and what, he should have then shut down the American economy before we even knew it would spread? Or he should have asked Pelosi for hundreds of billions of dollars for the coming pandemic? And Pelosi would have said......... Fuck you Trump, I ain't giving you shit while I'm trying to impeach you?
But at least you now have the "story" to decide for yourself if any of it has the air of credibility. I'm going to go out on a limb and call "conspiracy theory" that BWK says he or is it she, hates.

[oeb11]

Fascist DPST's trying to broadcast WaPo propaganda.

they have no shame about the LIES they spread.

Trolls on "Ignore"!!!!


And - thank you - HF for having the fortitude to dig through the waves of filth and Lies these Trolls produce - unfortunately - One cannot debate with indoctrinated DPST's too blind to see and unable to think for themselves .

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Fascist DPST's trying to broadcast WaPo propaganda.

they have no shame about the LIES they spread.

Trolls on "Ignore"!!!!


And - thank you - HF for having the fortitude to dig through the waves of filth and Lies these Trolls produce - unfortunately - One cannot debate with indoctrinated DPST's too blind to see and unable to think for themselves .

I think maybe in a past life I was one of those pigs that dig for truffles.


Oh, boy! opened myself up on that one! OK gemme your best pig insult!

[oeb11]

No way - those pigs are treasured and pampered for their ability to sniff out truffles.

Sort of like Wagyu beef from the Tajima strain of Japanese black cattle (Kobe beef - most of which in the US is not the special Japanese beef) - without the unfortunate ending.



Perhaps HF is one of those special folks able to sniff out something good about any person - even some of the Troll posters on forum???

[HedonistForever]

Trump's Executive Order on halting Immigration reviewed.


https://video.foxnews.com/v/61511889...#sp=show-clips

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

You'll notice when I asked BWK where he or is it she, got that so called information, he or is it she wouldn't say but then that's what cowards do, they will never answer a question that they know will embarrass them.


So I figure what the heck, let me see if I can "dig up" his or is it her, source and here is what I found when I Googled "Israeli intelligence alerted Trump to corona virus in November"


https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


So lets look at a few and see what we got. Let's start with ABC news, the only MSM outlet that covered the "information".


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inte...ry?id=70031273


Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources



OH! Wait, that's the one that doesn't mention Israeli intelligence at all but what the heck, since I pulled it up, let's examine what it says.


"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," a source said.


Well surely they checked and got comments from government officials, right?


Editor's Note: This story has been updated to reflect comment from the Pentagon.

Oh! Good, a comment from the Pentagon.





Ops! But hey, you can't trust the Pentagon. An anonymous source is more reliable don't you know. Any further comments?



Asked about the November warning last Sunday on ABC’s "This Week," Defense Secretary Mark Esper told Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos, "I can't recall, George. But we have many people who watch this closely. We have the premier infectious disease research institute in America, within the United States Army. So, our people who work these issues directly watch this all the time."
Pressing the secretary, Stephanopoulos asked, "So, you would have known if there was briefed to the National Security Council in December, wouldn't you?"
Esper said, "Yes. I'm not aware of that."


Yeah but he can't talk about sensitive information now can he. I guess we'll just have to go with the anonymous source which always turns out to be true, right?


OK, lets move on still searching for "Israeli Intelligence" component of BWK's story.


https://politizoom.com/2020/04/17/israeli-paper-reports-trump-knew-about-covid-19-in-november-told-israel-nato-but-not-u-s/



Uh, wait a minute! Didn't BWK say that Israel alerted Trump? Innocent mistake or on purpose?
So, the "real story" which we will never know is true or not, seems to be that Trump was alerted by the National Center for Medical Intelligence

US intelligence informed the Trump administration, “which did not deem it of interest,” but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF. [Israel Defense Forces]
And just to make it a little more salacious

Oh! BOY! Now we got us a story, right? So Trump's political agenda was to tell Israel and every NATO country in the world something he didn't want Americans to hear because he was sure none of these countries would betray his "secret". Sounds credible, right? Nope.
So finally the big BWK secret is out. Trump was told, not by Israeli intelligence but our own and we told Israel, if you believe any of this and obviously BWK does even though he mixed up who told who whether by mistake or on purpose we will never know, that a virus had been detected in China and what, he should have then shut down the American economy before we even knew it would spread? Or he should have asked Pelosi for hundreds of billions of dollars for the coming pandemic? And Pelosi would have said......... Fuck you Trump, I ain't giving you shit while I'm trying to impeach you?
But at least you now have the "story" to decide for yourself if any of it has the air of credibility. I'm going to go out on a limb and call "conspiracy theory" that BWK says he or is it she, hates.

Excellent post, my hedonist friend!

Unfortunately, the target of all your research - blissnpissboy - just done got himself, or is it herself, BANNED!

Not that he, or is it she, possesses the courage or ability or inclination or integrity to address your points - even if he, or is it she, wasn't banned LOL.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by lustylad

...
Unfortunately, the target of all your research - blissnpissboy - just done got himself, or is it herself, BANNED!

....

Like reopening the Texas economy, it should of happened weeks ago.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Excellent post, my hedonist friend!

Unfortunately, the target of all your research - blissnpissboy - just done got himself, or is it herself, BANNED!

Not that he, or is it she, possesses the courage or ability or inclination or integrity to address your points - even if he, or is it she, wasn't banned LOL.

yes he did. he might have had some help via the RTM option. i deny any rumors i did not RTM Kriss.


BAHHAAAAA

[The_Waco_Kid]

Tucker Carlson: Dr. Fauci Is Suggesting "National Suicide"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...lclearpolitics


TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: The emergence of a new and dangerous form of coronavirus became known to the public outside China about three months ago. The first case in this country appeared on January 21. Since the middle of March, much of America has been locked down in response. We’re three weeks into the largest and most disruptive response to a national emergency in our lifetimes. Yet often you get the sense that our leaders are still feeling their way along, making up details ad hoc as they plod forward. More precisely, they’re waiting to receive those details from the professionals they’ve gathered around them for directions. Chief among the experts now crafting national policy is a 79-year-old physician from Brooklyn called Anthony Fauci. Fauci certainly has the credentials for the job. He graduated first in his class from Cornell medical school. He’s spent more than half a century practicing medicine. He’s has been the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984. Those of us who are 50, were freshman in high school when he started there. You can’t say he’s not experienced. We’ve interviewed Dr. Fauci respectfully on this program, and we’d do it again if he came back. We hope he will. He’s an impressive person. But that doesn’t mean he’s never wrong. On the question of this pandemic, he has been repeatedly. On January 21, Fauci appeared on television to reassure the public that the Wuhan coronavirus was not worth worrying about:

GREG KELLY: Bottom line. We don’t have to worry about this one right?

FAUCI: Well obviously we have to take it seriously and follow the things the CDC an DHS are doing but this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.

Two days later, Chinese security forces quarantined an entire city of 11 million people. In some cases, they locked residents in their apartments from the outside. Chinese authorities were clearly panicked. But Anthony Fauci wasn’t. He assured Americans that, while they might want to reconsider immediate travel plans to Wuhan, going to the Super Bowl was absolutely fine. As it turned out, it wasn’t fine. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis now says the Super Bowl in Miami may have been a breeding ground for the spread of the virus. But Fauci kept going. On February 17, when coronavirus cases were starting to appear all over the world, he once again reassured the American public that the danger in this country was, quote, “just minuscule.” He said people ought to worry more about the quote, “real and present danger” of the annual flu.

To be clear, we’re not attacking Tony Fauci for getting it wrong on the Coronavirus. Most people did, in and out of medicine. It isn’t easy predicting which faraway problems will become imminent crises at home. Even the experts make big mistake. They’re human beings. They make human mistakes. And that’s exactly the point we ought to remember. Human beings frequently underestimate risk. They also very often overreact to risk once they identify it. We may be watching that now. Less than two months ago, Antony Fauci told us not to worry about this epidemic. Now he’s demanding that the federal government quarantine the entire country:

COOPER: Does it make sense to you that some states are still not issuing stay at home orders? Whether there should be a federally mandated directive for that or not, I guess that's more of a political question, but just scientifically, doesn't everybody have to be on the same page with this stuff?

FAUCI: Yeah. I think so, Anderson. I don't understand why that's not happening. As you said, the tension between federally mandates vs states rights is something I don’t want to get into but when you look at what’s going on, I don’t understand why we’re not doing that. We really should be.

How long should a shutdown like this last? Two days ago, Fauci suggested the country could remain under quarantine until there are no more infections of deaths. He did not suggest when that might be, if ever. Politicians followed his lead. Virginia Governor Ralph Northam has shuttered his state until June 10. A source with knowledge reports that Andrew Cuomo has privately discussed locking down New York until Fall. Meanwhile, various epidemiologists are talking about putting the entire nation on a year of cycled shutdowns. Americans would be allowed back to work, then ordered home again, then back to work. Over and over again.

These are extreme measures. We can only guess at the social and economic destruction they might wreak, but it would be profound. With this much at stake, it’s important to know more about the science behind these proposed policies. What is it? It begins with sophisticated computer models, that predict where and how quickly the virus will spread. The purpose of these predictions is to quote, “flatten the curve” — in other words, to slow the spread of the pandemic over a longer period of time. If anyone gets sick at once, our healthcare system will collapse, leaving Coronavirus patients and many other sick people without care. Obviously we should work to prevent that. So how reliable have the predictions been so far? Many government policy-makers have relied on a model created by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, the IHME. By some measures, like death rates, that model has been fairly accurate. Yesterday, for example, the model predicted 1,036 deaths nationwide. That was close. Today, it predicts about 1,200. That should be roughly accurate too.

But on other, likely more important, numbers, the predictions have terrible at best. As of yesterday, the IHME model predicted that the country would need 135,000 hospital beds, just to treat coronavirus patients. New York alone, the model predicted, would need 56,000. That was not even close. Yesterday, New York was at about 13,400 coronavirus hospitalizations. That’s not even a quarter of what the model predicted. And even that was closer that what it foresaw in other states. The model predicted Oklahoma would need a thousand hospital beds. They’re using 38. Louisiana had a forecast of 5,800 required beds. The state has had about 1,600 hospitalizations. And so on. Nationwide, just three states had more hospitalizations than the model predicted. In all three cases, they are small states with minuscule outbreaks so far.

Here’s the problem with getting these numbers so horribly wrong: They’ve driven massively disruptive government policy. Our entire national shutdown is based on the fear that Coronavirus patients would overwhelm hospitals. That mostly hasn’t happened. If the model had been accurate, would we have quarantined the country? Good quesion. But it’s too late now. More than ten million Americans have already lost their jobs. Imagine another year of this. That would be national suicide. Anthony Fauci doesn’t want to hurt America. He seems like a decent person. But Fauci is not an economist — or for that matter, someone who fears being unemployed. Like most of the people around him, he’s got bulletproof job security. He has the luxury of looking at the world through the narrow lens of his profession. He doesn’t seem to think much outside it. Watch this exchange, from NBC’s morning show yesterday:

FAUCI: I know it’s difficult. We’re having a lot of suffering and a lot of death. This is inconvenient from an economic and a personal standpoint, but we just have to do it.

Ten million Americans out of work and staring at poverty. That’s not quote “inconvenient,” as Dr. Fauci put it. It’s horrifying. It’s a far bigger disaster than the virus itself. Tony Fauci can’t see that, because he doesn’t think it’s his job to see it. But even a doctor should be able to think beyond the models. Our response to coronavirus could turn this into a far poorer country. Poor countries are unhealthy countries. People die of treatable diseases. They’re far more vulnerable to obscure viruses, like the one we are fighting now. Want to keep Americans from dying before their time? Don’t impoverish them. For all his credentials, experience and apparent decency, Dr. Fauci doesn’t seem to understand that. We should never let someone like that run the country.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Tucker Carlson: Dr. Fauci Is Suggesting "National Suicide"

On January 21, Fauci appeared on television to reassure the public that the Wuhan coronavirus was not worth worrying about:

Hell, he was saying that as late as Feb. 24 when he advised the President and the American people that there was no need to change their behavior "at this point in time".

Ten million Americans out of work and staring at poverty. That’s not quote “inconvenient,” as Dr. Fauci put it. It’s horrifying. It’s a far bigger disaster than the virus itself. Tony Fauci can’t see that, because he doesn’t think it’s his job to see it. But even a doctor should be able to think beyond the models. Our response to coronavirus could turn this into a far poorer country. Poor countries are unhealthy countries. People die of treatable diseases. They’re far more vulnerable to obscure viruses, like the one we are fighting now. Want to keep Americans from dying before their time? Don’t impoverish them. For all his credentials, experience and apparent decency, Dr. Fauci doesn’t seem to understand that. We should never let someone like that run the country.

Exactly! The medical advice of course should be considered but it is not the be all and end all of the discussion.

[oeb11]

HF - agreed!!

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Excellent post, my hedonist friend!

Unfortunately, the target of all your research - blissnpissboy - just done got himself, or is it herself, BANNED!

Not that he, or is it she, possesses the courage or ability or inclination or integrity to address your points - even if he, or is it she, wasn't banned LOL.

How do you guys know this stuff? Is there a list of banned posters that I am unaware of?