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				SPEED are you equating "recent attacks" with the exposing of frauds...  
 
Your words..."Since his recent attacks on The Squad and Elijah  Cummings". 
 So is using the word socialism still name calling?? 
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			08-18-2019, 08:22 AM
			
			
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				Someday one of your posts will actually make sense. 
			
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When will you begin to comprehend them? You're running out of time.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 08:26 AM
			
			
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Which means you can’t take polls as fact.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 08:32 AM
			
			
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				Which means you can’t take polls as fact. 
			
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But he DOES!
 
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This election is OVER. Republicans should start focusing on 2020. Unless a bomb hits between now and November 8th there is no way Trump can overcome the lead that Clinton has in the polls. For those of you who are still not believing the polls . . . we'll see in a handful of days how accurate they are.
			
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			08-18-2019, 08:48 AM
			
			
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				Which means you can’t take polls as fact. 
			
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I never said you could.  They are the opinions of a hopefully random sample of individuals at a specific point in time.  If done correctly, the polls are accurate within a certain error rate. 
 
Polls were VERY accurate in 2008, 2012, and 2018. They missed somewhat in 2016.  Several times in the past you have cited polls done by Rasmussen because they fit your POV. 
 
As I've said before -- Trump is very aware of the polls which show him in trouble in several battleground states and is taking action to improve his standing there.  Notice which states he is visiting.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 08:50 AM
			
			
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			Those who live by the polls shall die by the polls. 
 
People lie to pollsters. That was proven in 2016.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 09:03 AM
			
			
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				I never said you could.  They are the opinions of a hopefully random sample of individuals at a specific point in time.  If done correctly, the polls are accurate within a certain error rate.  
 
Polls were VERY accurate in 2008, 2012, and 2018. They missed somewhat in 2016.  Several times in the past you have cited polls done by Rasmussen because they fit your POV.  
 
As I've said before -- Trump is very aware of the polls which show him in trouble in several battleground states and is taking action to improve his standing there.  Notice which states he is visiting. 
			
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But you never mention states that Hillary barely won, like NH. Trump was just there. I’ll stand by my opinion that Trump will win in 2020. Despite what polls say.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 09:03 AM
			
			
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				Those who live by the polls shall die by the polls. 
 
People lie to pollsters. That was proven in 2016. 
			
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Sometimes people do lie to pollsters.  Usually not.  That is why for the most part polls have been very accurate over time.
 
One of the possible reasons for the miss in 2016 -- in every poll there is a category of "Don't Know" voters.  At the time of the poll they have not made up their minds as to for whom they will vote. This can run 10% or higher at times.  In 2016 it is estimated that the majority of the voters in that category decided at voting time to cast their ballots for Trump. And that turned the tide in Trump's favor.  
 
Will the same occur in 2020?  Possibly.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 09:08 AM
			
			
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				They missed SOMEWHAT in 2016. 
			
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That is the UNDERstatement of the eons SPEED. I will try and not call you a socialist...because that's name calling!! But you are welcome to call me a Conservative.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 09:08 AM
			
			
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				But you never mention states that Hillary barely won, like NH. Trump was just there. I’ll stand by my opinion that Trump will win in 2020. Despite what polls say. 
			
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Polls this far before an election are warning signs, far from fact. Hillary won a few states by a slim margin -- N.H., Nevada, and Minnesota come to mind quickly.  Trump won several states by a slim margin-- Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, Wisconsin and Arizona come to mind quickly. These few states will determine the election in 2020.
 
I know you predict a Trump victory in 2020. I have made no prediction at all.  Too much water yet to flow under the bridge.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 09:10 AM
			
			
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And pollsters LIE about what people said or didn't say!
 
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				  Usually not. 
			
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And just how the fuck would you KNOW THAT?
 
You are amazingly ignorant. Just admit it.
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			08-18-2019, 09:11 AM
			
			
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				That is the UNDERstatement of the eons SPEED. I will try and not call you a socialist...because that's name calling!! But you are welcome to call me a Conservative. 
			
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Again, if I was a Socialist I would have no problem with you or anyone else calling me such.
 
But since you know close to zero about my opinions on political issues and know even less on what socialism truly is, I'll let you continue to make your unsubstantiated claims.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-18-2019, 09:12 AM
			
			
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				And pollsters LIE about what people said or didn't say! 
 
 
 
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			08-18-2019, 09:13 AM
			
			
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				Again, if I was a Socialist 
			
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It's "were" not "was"!
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