Change in menu. Again?

[iseedeadpeople71]

So I talked with Michelle (https://eccie.net/member.php?u=423385) last night and she has decided its best for her to change her offerings. She is feeling a bit lost in her current role and would like to get back to her roots and just provide an awesome massage. At the end of our conversation, she even mentioned getting off of here because of the expectations of some, I guess everyone here just isn't a nice person. Not trying to be a boy scout, just passing on the info I was given, and the fact she doesn't get on here to express this. Wasn't sure where to put this so I chose here.

[Savannah Moon]

I'm confused why she isn't able or capable of posting this herself?

Does she not know how?

It is literally the most difficult part of this industry..dealing with misconceptions between a clients expectations and what we actually are willing to do.

But ..her failure to communicate is just as much an issue here ..in my opinion.

There is an open doir policy..you can leave whenever you choose, but unfortunately she will have this issue on any site she goes to.

[seductrix4u]

Originally Posted by Savannah Moon

I'm confused why she isn't able or capable of posting this herself?

Does she not know how?

But ..her failure to communicate is just as much an issue here ..in my opinion.

+1

Now back on topic.

Thank you, OP, for sharing the info. You were kind to convey this message for her. Hopefully one day she'll figure this out for herself so she can use her own voice to conduct her own business.

[PatientScorpio]

She was trolled on by a client that made the profile for her and posts periodically, telling her he is helping her get clients. With the hopes he will get free massages. So she is dealing with potential clients that what extras that she doesn't offer. Some of them are violent and worse. She has had enough.

That is what she has shared with me.

[seductrix4u]

Originally Posted by iseedeadpeople71

she even mentioned getting off of here because of the expectations of some, I guess everyone here just isn't a nice person.

See, it just takes a few creeps to ruin a good thing for everyone.

Why don't guys like this just stay home by themselves? Because we ladies are weeding these losers out, DNSing like nobody's business, and we're squeezing them hard. We're tired of dealing with these dudes. Yeah, they'll always find SOMEONE. But it won't be us.

Just be gentlemen, please. It's not that hard. Thank you.

Now, back on topic to Michelle's menu offerings...

[Savannah Moon]

Originally Posted by PatientScorpio

She was trolled on by a client that made the profile for her and posts periodically, telling her he is helping her get clients. With the hopes he will get free massages. So she is dealing with potential clients that what extras that she doesn't offer. Some of them are violent and worse. She has had enough.

That is what she has shared with me.

Sounds a bit like swiss cheese.
Hope she can get rid of her client/mananger.
So, A client has access & is running her account?
Because of our Ladies room, clients are not allowed to utilize our accounts.
Can you see how that is problematic?
Geez ..I got to go.
Truly hope she can get out of that drama.
She should reach out to
Scorpio
Or
Rocket Surgeon
ASAP.

[seductrix4u]

Originally Posted by Savannah Moon

Hope she can get rid of her client/mananger.
So, A client has access & is running her account?
Because of our Ladies room, clients are not allowed to utilize our accounts.
Can you see how that is problematic?

It IS problematic if a client is accessing her account and potentially reading the Ladies' Lounge posts. However, she would not be the first, nor the last, female on this board who has had another person TCB for them. We have to allow room for virtual assistants, etc., regardless of gender. We have to trust the process.

However, asking clients to be your mouthpiece on a consistent basis is more problematic to me than having someone TCB for you. I've had to deal with one of her "mouthpieces" in the past (I'm sure the same one who created her account), trying to convince me to give her an invitation to a private M&G I hosted. I told him if she couldn't ask me herself, it wasn't going to happen. I never heard from her.

Now back on topic. Michelle's revised menu offerings!

[BigDeal]

This is problematic that some dude is manipulating her account and being exposed to her messages.
Lets invite UC into the conversation...UC you surely have some input on this...lets get your take. She is one of your Gals and dance partners!

And agree she should be writing this not having PR spokespeeps.

[Savannah Moon]

Originally Posted by seductrix4u

It IS problematic if a client is accessing her account and potentially reading the Ladies' Lounge posts. However, she would not be the first, nor the last, female on this board who has had another person TCB for them. We have to allow room for virtual assistants, etc., regardless of gender. We have to trust the process.

However, asking clients to be your mouthpiece on a consistent basis is more problematic to me than having someone TCB for you. I've had to deal with one of her "mouthpieces" in the past (I'm sure the same one who created her account), trying to convince me to give her an invitation to a private M&G I hosted. I told him if she couldn't ask me herself, it wasn't going to happen. I never heard from her.

Now back on topic. Michelle's revised menu offerings!

I disagree.
What was stated is this supposed client had access to her account.
No, they can NOT.
For the reason I stated Powder Room & what BD added.
IF she had problems ..we have options for assistance..other providers & our Mods.
That is why gals who are known to be pimped are not allowed in the Ladies room/ Infoshare.

Originally Posted by BigDeal

This is problematic that some dude is manipulating her account and being exposed to her messages.
Lets invite UC into the conversation...UC you surely have some input on this...lets get your take. She is one of your Gals and dance partners!

And agree she should be writing this not having PR spokespeeps.

I think UC is busy eating peanut butter with his fingers.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Originally Posted by BigDeal

This is problematic that some dude is manipulating her account and being exposed to her messages.
Lets invite UC into the conversation...UC you surely have some input on this...lets get your take. She is one of your Gals and dance partners!

And agree she should be writing this not having PR spokespeeps.

BD,
Different Michelle.

But, there's valid points throughout the thread.
On the original issue of a gal's menu change, yes that should only come from the gal. As otherwise booking agent scenarios could be, and were, assumed.

About guys and gals having access to the other sides: We all know it happens. White knights/princesses or folks letting others have access to their accounts. The mods try their best, but still.

Basically, OP really should not have mentioned this on behalf of the gal. Cause he's opened himself, the gal, and perhaps another, up for assumptions.

Savannah is quite correct and I agree with her analysis and conclusions.
Btw, Savannah, there has to be chocolate mixed in as well.

[seductrix4u]

Originally Posted by seductrix4u

However, asking clients to be your mouthpiece on a consistent basis is more problematic to me than having someone TCB for you. I've had to deal with one of her "mouthpieces" in the past (I'm sure the same one who created her account), trying to convince me to give her an invitation to a private M&G I hosted. I told him if she couldn't ask me herself, it wasn't going to happen. I never heard from her.

NOTE: I retract this statement. Based upon a clarification by UC, the "mouthpiece" contacted me about a DIFFERENT Michelle than the one being referred to in this thread. The "mouthpiece's" companion also offers FSBM+, does not post on ECCIE, and uses clients to pass messages. How strange that there are TWO Michelles with clients as "mouthpieces"! But that's why I was confused. My apologies.

Back on topic, Michelle's new menu.

[seductrix4u]

Originally Posted by Savannah Moon

I disagree.
What was stated is this supposed client had access to her account.
No, they can NOT.
For the reason I stated Powder Room & what BD added.
IF she had problems ..we have options for assistance..other providers & our Mods.
That is why gals who are known to be pimped are not allowed in the Ladies room/ Infoshare.

Hi sweetie, I completely agree that a client should not have access to a female account. That what's I said in my first sentence. It IS problematic if a client is accessing her account and potentially reading the Ladies' Lounge posts.

But unless Michelle admits to whom she's given access of her account (and if she's not even talking on the forums, I doubt that's gonna happen), then we have to accept the fact that this is probably happening.

We already know that every time certain groups roll through, they are under management. Those ladies have no clue of how to TCB other than BCD. So yes, men have access to our LL and have for years. Everybody in the know, knows it. And looks the other way.

So there's no reason to put on our boxing gloves today over this thread. I know I'm not. But I completely agree that if a woman is grown up enough to be in this industry, she should be grown up enough to speak for herself.

Have a great day, hon!

[Savannah Moon]

My boxing gloves are in my basement...LOL

I'm stating FACTS

FACT..Men/ Manangers / Pimps/ Clients are NOT allowed to access our Female accounts..PERIOD

Just because it has happened or does , does not mean that it is NOT completely against the rules.

Part of being a member is KNOWING the rules, FOLLOWING the rules.
Not when it is convenient to a member.

I stepped in on this thread BECAUSE it reaks BULLSHIT.

I politely called it swiss cheese.

Now I have to go play in the snow & make my way to my incall w/ some Hot Chocolate.

I've been cool so far & not stated what I really think about the "situation"
I used my filters & pushed my Super strong Sagittarius Personality to the side.

It's not easy being new..I remember that vividly.but I am one who does the math..and this is not adding up.
Hence, swiss cheese/ BULLSHIT.

She needs to reach out to the Mods at this point.
Not clients who obviously are digging a deep hole for her IMO.


Be safe out there everyone.

[seductrix4u]

Originally Posted by PatientScorpio

She was trolled on by a client that made the profile for her and posts periodically, telling her he is helping her get clients. With the hopes he will get free massages. So she is dealing with potential clients that what extras that she doesn't offer. Some of them are violent and worse. She has had enough.

That is what she has shared with me.

Sir, just to clarify. You are saying that she is changing her menu because of problem client requests and behaviors.

But here you posted that she was changing her menu because of a change in her romantic life. Which, BTW, is nobody's business but her own so why would you come out of lurking status for the first time in 8 years to post that RW info?

So which is the real reason for the menu change? If you're gonna play messenger boy, be prepared for questions.

And your style of writing is amazingly close to that of the OP. Just an observation...

Yeah, this thread has some stank on it, for sure.

[PatientScorpio]

New information or many additional info. Just what I have been told. I enjoyed time with her, but onward to find something new.