Let's Review the Election Results

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Senate gains were significant for Republicans but fairly meaningless when you look at the 2020 presidential race

Not at all "meaningless". When Ginsburg goes, Barrett will be confirmed without worry. Confirming appointments to the lower courts will continue unabated.

Despite their lies, Pelosi and Waters cannot repeal Trump's tax reform -- which is already in place -- nor can they impeach a president or a justice without the Senate and the Judiciary.

[Austin Ellen]

Bingo!

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Not at all "meaningless". When Ginsburg goes, Barrett will be confirmed without worry. Confirming appointments to the lower courts will continue unabated.

Despite their lies, Pelosi and Waters cannot repeal Trump's tax reform -- which is already in place -- nor can they impeach a president without the Senate and the Judiciary.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

No blue wave when you take both House and Senate results into account. Still don't know exactly how many House seats Democrats picked up but you shouldn't belittle the results. Taking back the House was the goal and it was reached.

Senate gains were significant for Republicans but fairly meaningless when you look at the 2020 presidential race -- ND, Indiana, Missouri, Tennessee, Texas -- these are all states that Trump won in 2016 and will win in 2020. Arizona and Florida, 2 states that could go either way in 2020, were neck-and-neck.

The other states that were very significant in Trump's 2016 victory -- Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania -- all elected Democratic Senators by rather healthy margins. All 3 elected Democratic governors. Will this mean anything come 2020? Too early to tell.

First things first. Democrats must come up with a Presidential candidate that does not carry the baggage that Clinton did and who is not too far to the left.

As I stated before, 42 retirements on the Republican House side. Incumbents win in the House 90% of the time. They started out in a deep hole. OBama lost 63 seats, Clinton 52 seats, Eisenhower 48 seats. This was not a wave of any sort. The Republicans might pick up 4 Senate seats which is historic. That hasn’t happened by a President in their first midterm elections. 9 out of 11 candidates that Trump campaigned for win. The ones that didn’t want him to come lost. And there will be a battle for House leadership. If the Dems go with the far left, they’re House will disappear in 2020.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

The guy is in Austin where all the retarded libs are.

Ok - you went back to this. In another thread someone said you predicted a blue wave and you got on there and said you didn't. It's easy to see how folks could think that after reading our posts. I honestly do not think I predicted a red wave however, I'm not gonna go back and try to find it. To the best of my memory I did not think either side would produce a "wave." I knew Cruz would win. That was a no brainer.

I do think Trump will win in 2020. The dems still don't have a message unless you know of one and can enlighten me.

Here is a quote from you from the Austin "Politics anyone?" thread, post #309: "You are correct LM because we are not going to lose the House. We are going to be celebrating.....in a "big" way..."

So as of yet I cannot find a statement by you predicting a "Red Wave" so until I can find one, I will apologize to you for what could be a mis-statement on my part.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Not at all "meaningless". When Ginsburg goes, Barrett will be confirmed without worry. Confirming appointments to the lower courts will continue unabated.

Despite their lies, Pelosi and Waters cannot repeal Trump's tax reform -- which is already in place -- nor can they impeach a president or a justice without the Senate and the Judiciary.

You failed to read/understand my statement. I said Senate results are meaningless when it comes to the 2020 PRESIDENTIAL election. Certainly they will be meaningful within the Senate itself. But by winning Senate elections in states that voted Republican in 2016 and will do so again in 2020 does not mean anything to the 2020 presidential race outcome.

And where did repealing tax reform or impeaching anyone come from?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bambino

As I stated before, 42 retirements on the Republican House side. Incumbents win in the House 90% of the time. They started out in a deep hole. OBama lost 63 seats, Clinton 52 seats, Eisenhower 48 seats. This was not a wave of any sort. The Republicans might pick up 4 Senate seats which is historic. That hasn’t happened by a President in their first midterm elections. 9 out of 11 candidates that Trump campaigned for win. The ones that didn’t want him to come lost. And there will be a battle for House leadership. If the Dems go with the far left, they’re House will disappear in 2020.

Let's just say we have a difference of opinion as to the significance of the House and Senate results.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You failed to read/understand my statement. I said Senate results are meaningless when it comes to the 2020 PRESIDENTIAL election. Certainly they will be meaningful within the Senate itself. But by winning Senate elections in states that voted Republican in 2016 and will do so again in 2020 does not mean anything to the 2020 presidential race outcome. Why did conservatives choose Trump over hildebeest in 2016? Judicial appointments.

What motivated conservatives to the polls in 2018? The Kavanaugh hearings.

That ain't goinna change in 2020. So, no, the 2018 win in the Senate isn't meaningless regarding the 2020 campaign season.

And where did repealing tax reform or impeaching anyone come from?FYI, Mad Maxine Waters.

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[grean]

Look at Dan Chenshaw in the Texas 2nd.

The Rep- Elect said everyone should stop attacking each other's intent because they disagree. Everyone should try to lower the tempature instead of raising it.

If I could I vote for this guy.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

The results of last night will not be known untill we see how the Democrats handle their control of the House.

If they follow the lead of Nadler, Cummings, Waters and a few other entrenched members and waste 2 years trying to undo the 2016 Presidential Election, they will pave the way for President Trump's re-election.

So true. BUT since piglosi's already said she wants to lay the ground work for impeachment, it certtainly seems that's what they are gunning for.

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Tt's time for the Democrats to stop fighting the President and help him govern.

And yes, President Trump needs to get with reasonable Democrats and work out great solutions for the Country.

And how exactly can someone work with those who call you nazi, bigot, deplorable, hater etc? How can someone compromise with those who's idea of compromise is "OUR WAY or the highway"?

Originally Posted by Jackie S

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Keep in mind, all of this is going down with President Trump fighting a 88 percent negative reporting from all Main Stream Media Outlets.

Just think what he could accomplish with just a smidgen of support from the Press.

Can you imagine how obama would have been, had the media been THIS against him, as they are trump?

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Well I won $500 dollars - no blue wave! Whoohoo!

They won 25 house seats and flipped 5 governors seats. Republicans won ONE more seat int he senate. Certainly feels like a blue wave hit to me.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Not at all "meaningless". When Ginsburg goes, Barrett will be confirmed without worry. Confirming appointments to the lower courts will continue unabated.

Trump's got how many judges STILL awaiting confirmation.??!! And you think they will go unabated??

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

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ou failed to read/understand my statement. I said Senate results are meaningless when it comes to the 2020 PRESIDENTIAL election. Certainly they will be meaningful within the Senate itself. But by winning Senate elections in states that voted Republican in 2016 and will do so again in 2020 does not mean anything to the 2020 presidential race outcome. Why did conservatives choose Trump over hildebeest in 2016? Judicial appointments.

What motivated conservatives to the polls in 2018? The Kavanaugh hearings.

That ain't goinna change in 2020. So, no, the 2018 win in the Senate isn't meaningless regarding the 2020 campaign season.

And where did repealing tax reform or impeaching anyone come from?FYI, Mad Maxine Waters.

You are certainly welcome to your OPINION as to why people voted for Trump over Clinton in 2016. Or what drove Conservatives to the polls in 2018. Nothing to back it up though.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by garhkal

Trump's got how many judges STILL awaiting confirmation.??!! And you think they will go unabated??

Yep! The additional Senators will allow just that.

Dim-retards Just Confirmed Lots Of Trump’s Judges So They Could Skip Town

Aug 29, 2018

WASHINGTON ― Senate Democrats just gave a huge gift to President Donald Trump: They agreed to expedite votes on 15 of his nominees to lifetime federal court seats because they wanted to go home.

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) had lined up votes for all those district court nominees last week. Normally, Senate rules require up to 30 hours of waiting time for each nominee ― something Democrats typically take advantage of to delay action on confirming Trump judges. But Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) cut a deal with McConnell on Tuesday to bypass the wait times and let them all get through....

Trump has gotten 26 circuit court judges confirmed, more than any other president at this point in his term. Another way of putting it: 1 in 7 U.S. circuit court seats is now filled by a judge nominated by Trump.

(Huffy)

[Yssup Rider]

What this really means is that Collins and Murkowski no longer have any power to stop Trump's GOP from going off the rails and into the morass. That doesn't mean the new senators are people of no integrity and shouldn't be trusted to do what's best for the people they serve.

But just in case ... The House of Representatives and the fucking constitution are standing by to keep the nuts in check.

Stay tuned.

[skirtchaser79411]

Beto did just fine you have to learn to walk before you run and texas is starting to turn back to the blue, o sure note in the little counties in west or east tx, but Houston dallas Austin san Antonio were the real population numbers are were solid blue and that will happen more every time we have an election

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by skirtchaser79411

Beto did just fine you have to learn to walk before you run and texas is starting to turn back to the blue, o sure note in the little counties in west or east tx, but Houston dallas Austin san Antonio were the real population numbers are were solid blue and that will happen more every time we have an election

Actually it's the suburbs that are having the biggest impact in moving Texas to the left. Williamson County has long been a Republican county. Until yesterday. This is where on a national level Democrats beat Republicans.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

And none of you noticed that Dennis Hof won his election, from the grave.

i noticed!!! LOL!