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Old 08-01-2018, 05:41 AM   #31
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Agent220 wealth shouldn't be distributed , if you want it earn it.
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:13 AM   #32
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Poor people are not poor because rich people are rich.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:37 AM   #33
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Yet wealth distribution is at an all time high of inequality.

Now I'm not so much a fan of Bernie in that regard however there is certainly too much of the good boys club crap thst goes on in any sphere of work.
I am a FIRM and STAUNCH believer in Wealth redistribution. It is absolutely essential to level the playing field. Wealth should be redistributed directly to those working hard and earning their keep with social programs in place to help the poor amongst us which incidentally includes whites who have more raw numbers of poor people on welfare.

If you go back to the creation of the stock markets back in the late 1800's and other business markets you can clearly discern that wealth and capital was created and literally given to those in power....its been passed down generationally ever since. Black inventions have been stolen and credited to white people with whole billion dollar industries being created. I'm just waiting for some buffoon to ask for an example as I have the holy grail of examples. But the point is wealth distribution has always existed therefore wealth re-distribution is essential.

Who do you think determines the value of something. Who do you think determines how much you should get paid? Do these idiots that blindly vote Republican think that the President's and CEO's should actually earn that much more than them. While in 98% of cases they scrap with overtime or salary pay. The biggest joke on earth is Republicans getting their voters to believe that by supporting big business they're in essence supporting their own personal cause. It's like Joe The Plumber who makes $40k / yr ever thinking that as a plumber owning his own business he'd make 250k /yr. I swear on god most Republican voters are pure idiots.

Wealth redistribution is essential and when I say wealth redistribution I dont necessarily mean taking money from someone who is a millionaire but if you're a billionaire that money should be redistributed in a very methodical and responsible way based on certain criteria.

Capitalism really ain't all that
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Old 08-01-2018, 10:18 AM   #34
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How about fat distribution ?


We could distribute all the fat that fat people have to the skinny people. Think how much that would
save on health care.


And.....finally no problem sharing a seat and row on an airplane.
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Old 08-01-2018, 10:54 AM   #35
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If you're gonna respond to me...all I ask is that you use common sense and keep the stupid analogies to yourself. In other words THINK before you post. A very quick assessment of that silly notion would immediately call for massive upfront costs in prep and surgery therefore negating any healthcare savings. Not to mention physiological issues related over hyper thyroids which also contributes to fat.

Whereas wealth redistribution is easy no massive upfront costs and would give the obtainer of this new wealth access to healthier lifestyles thereby reducing healthcar costs. Again as I said all of the redistribution being criteria based.

I just dont think you folks are intellectual enough to 1.) Truly understand the issue and 2.) Come up with a workable solution. You just want to parrot Fox News and Sean KKKlanity nonsense
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We already have wealth redistribution. Who do you think is paying the taxes now to pay for all of the entitlements. I don't have free healthcare, free food or living allowances...but I pay for others to have it.
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Agent220 wealth shouldn't be distributed , if you want it earn it.

I thought I typed that I didn't agree with Bernie on that issue.

However let's not disillusion ourselves the fact that those thst be got a 400 year head start and still have the upper leg on somethings. In short I believe in earning it but let's actually earn it fair and with ethics.
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I am a FIRM and STAUNCH believer in Wealth redistribution. It is absolutely essential to level the playing field. Wealth should be redistributed directly to those working hard and earning their keep with social programs in place to help the poor amongst us which incidentally includes whites who have more raw numbers of poor people on welfare.

If you go back to the creation of the stock markets back in the late 1800's and other business markets you can clearly discern that wealth and capital was created and literally given to those in power....its been passed down generationally ever since. Black inventions have been stolen and credited to white people with whole billion dollar industries being created. I'm just waiting for some buffoon to ask for an example as I have the holy grail of examples. But the point is wealth distribution has always existed therefore wealth re-distribution is essential.

Who do you think determines the value of something. Who do you think determines how much you should get paid? Do these idiots that blindly vote Republican think that the President's and CEO's should actually earn that much more than them. While in 98% of cases they scrap with overtime or salary pay. The biggest joke on earth is Republicans getting their voters to believe that by supporting big business they're in essence supporting their own personal cause. It's like Joe The Plumber who makes $40k / yr ever thinking that as a plumber owning his own business he'd make 250k /yr. I swear on god most Republican voters are pure idiots.

Wealth redistribution is essential and when I say wealth redistribution I dont necessarily mean taking money from someone who is a millionaire but if you're a billionaire that money should be redistributed in a very methodical and responsible way based on certain criteria.

Capitalism really ain't all that
So bruh and I say bruh as I am too black with no chaser, we got quite a number of things you discussed.

Capitalism I do agree that the little guy gets screwed over and often. However in America we haven't had capitalism for quite sometime due to the fact that there are things going on behind the scenes in which make the "free market" not so free.

Recently it has been proven that companies have agreements to not poach each other's low skilled workers which keep wages stagnant despite inflation and cost of living continuing to climb https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...thers-workers/

In addition in 2018, white sounding names still get those callbacks to the interview vs the ethnic names which is for all practical purposes a crock of shit. In addition even if "Jamal" gets the job/position, he is expected to make less than his counterparts despite same education and experience.

Wealth redistribution is to me not the answer for the long term. If anything, we need a complete reset to the access of wealth which includes a fair shake at the interview process, wages as well an end to the good old boys club that gets people into the gig.

I do agree that this shit is rigged from as explained earlier, the criminal justice system, credit system and the history of attacks and assaults on foundations towards black enterprise (Black Wall Steeet).

One other thing, poor white folks with a lack of sense and education wholeheartedly vote against their own interests. The powerful elite understood this which was why the elite instilled "white pride" so that the poor would understand that and in turn belittle their minority contemporaries.
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There are a lot of tools used in industry that are too expensive for vocational/college environments to buy and use for training. Thats a big problem and I want my tax dollars to go to those firms so that they make a lowcost student version and not one that cost thousands...there are some but not all and what industry wants to use, then educators need access to those same tools and a reduced cost, even if its subsidized by taxes. At lest that tax won't be wasted.
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Trump carries the distinction of being the first U.S. president to commit treason while in office. Ronald Reagan is rolling over in his grave..
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There are a lot of tools used in industry that are too expensive for vocational/college environments to buy and use for training. Thats a big problem and I want my tax dollars to go to those firms so that they make a lowcost student version and not one that cost thousands...there are some but not all and what industry wants to use, then educators need access to those same tools and a reduced cost, even if its subsidized by taxes. At lest that tax won't be wasted.
By the same token there are "tools" that are "too expensive" to be purchased privately by individual companies that can be "co-oped" at institutions of higher learning for all companies in the industry to utilize while teaching their personnel how to use them and/or how to conduct research with them to benefit development of less expensive alternatives ... with the educational facilities using tax and donation funds to acquire, operate, and maintain those "tools" and facilities where located.
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Old 08-03-2018, 05:56 AM   #43
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So bruh and I say bruh as I am too black with no chaser, we got quite a number of things you discussed.

Capitalism I do agree that the little guy gets screwed over and often. However in America we haven't had capitalism for quite sometime due to the fact that there are things going on behind the scenes in which make the "free market" not so free.

Recently it has been proven that companies have agreements to not poach each other's low skilled workers which keep wages stagnant despite inflation and cost of living continuing to climb https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...thers-workers/


I generally dont have an issue with your overall view of it. Non competes have been around for quite some time. But this goes to my point. Republicans always yell and scream that wealth redistribution is not acceptable but rather hard work and earning it on your own...However, these cases are prime examples of the sheer stupidity in which these people think. Companies are aligned in the oppression of the hard worker. Keeping them down and cutting off pathways for them to attain success or better positions in life such as these non-competes at even very low wage jobs. This is why I say Republicans by and large are total and complete IDIOTS. They routinely fight and vote against their own interests because 1.) they're mostly uneducated and 2.) the elites have instilled a mind controlling tactic on them called white pride. Making these people think they are losing riches they don't have nor will ever have. When I'm educating these people I always use this example....A baker bakes a dozen cookies. Immediately after baking a Republican takes 11 of the cookies for himself and leaves 1 cookie....he then looks at everyone else and says you better watch that Democrat because he's trying to steal half your cookie. This sums up the Republican party in a nutshell...


In addition in 2018, white sounding names still get those callbacks to the interview vs the ethnic names which is for all practical purposes a crock of shit. In addition even if "Jamal" gets the job/position, he is expected to make less than his counterparts despite same education and experience. - I can relate to this..the first courtesan I ever saw told me that she only saw me because I sounded white on the phone...but was like wow you're so handsome I'm glad I met you...but to your point it's not a fair process which is why affirmative action is necessary..we have to work twice as hard to get half as much. Just look at the case with Obama....he represented essentially everything white people tell blacks they need to be in order to be acceptable...He was 1.) raised by whites...lol 2.) grew up in a lush Hawaiian environment. 3.) hung around white people growing up and dated white girls exclusively....3.) went to IVY LEAGUE colleges 4.) named President of the Harvard Law review 5.) Graduated Harvard with honors magna cum laude. 6.) Taught law at a University as a professor. 7.) Served his community and married in his race. 8.) Served in his State senate and the US Senate before running and winning an election. Basically lived a life of serve. But yet race is still THE issue for his haters even though they lie to no end about it....In their warped sense of morality and jealousy they likely think he took some opportunity from them.



Wealth redistribution is not the answer for the long term. If anything, we need a complete reset to the access of wealth which includes a fair shake at the interview process, wages as well an end to the good old boys club that gets people into the gig. Wealth redistribution in moderation is the solution and has proven to work in some other countries. Some people think it doesn't incentivize but again as long as there is balance it works perfectly. Here's a good starter article on it https://www.geek.com/science/wealth-...-math-1719995/

I do agree that this shit is rigged from as explained earlier, the criminal justice system, credit system and the history of attacks and assaults on foundations towards black enterprise (Black Wall Steeet).

One other thing, poor white folks with a lack of sense and education wholeheartedly vote against their own interests. The powerful elite understood this which was why the elite instilled "white pride" so that the poor would understand that and in turn belittle their minority contemporaries. - Agree and Tim Wise speaks eloquently about it.





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Only a moron believes in wealth redistribution , look at your own kind, not talking skin color. Why don't all the rich limbs give there money away? Nothing says they can't, why don't they?
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In the 21st century, it becomes a discussion about socialism vs. capitalism. Even communist countries abandon socialism to some degree, and embrace capitalism (so the people with skills and talent can create wealth for them (taxes).


Capitalism has faults. Governments exist to curb some excesses of the free market and enforce the rules (playing the role of umpire) while the game is played.


The form of wealth distribution that works is charitable giving and charitable organizations. Governments encourage this through tax laws. They don't attempt to confiscate private property.


Experiments by billionaires such as Ted Turner, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and others are ongoing for distribution of wealth.
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