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Old 12-02-2017, 10:08 AM   #46
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Hide and watch. He knows more about the former administration, who did "throw him under the bus"! Now why did Obama toss him?
Then Trump and Obama are the same?
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:51 AM   #47
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What OFFICIAL business? Private citizens have the right to talk to whom they please. What does this have to do with collusion to steal an election that Trump had already won? The Logan Act is not in play if there are no negotiations.
My post did not mention collusion. I was not addressing that issue. Private citizens cannot conduct business for the US govt. without authority from the govt.(i.e.discussing the lifting of sanctions with the Russian ambassador).
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Old 12-02-2017, 11:18 AM   #48
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You're from Austin? That explains the above Fake analysis.

You haven't read much about Post-election transitions and the supporting legislation have you ..... start with this ..... nonpartisan explanation.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS22979.pdf

"PTA" = Presidential Transition Act as amended.

Here's a portion that is relevant to your bullshit ....

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The members of the "Trump Transition Team" were authorized to familiarize themselves with pending issues the new administration would face after being sworn in January, which included matters pending with the Russian government and the U.N. Flynn had the security clearances and he had played a roll in intelligence matters in the Obaminable Administration.

#2: The members of the transition team get a government check ("green check") ...

Before you slice and dice in order to sound "informed" you might want to make certain you address the categories of authorizations, which differ from pre-election to post-election time frames and the PURPOSE for "pre-election" security clearances for specific persons in the incoming transition team.

Do you recall the photos of Obaminable at the White House visiting with Bush in 2008-9 .... ? He was "getting up to speed"! He was not PROHIBITED from engaging in international communications. And speaking of Obaminable's international activities .. he didn't even wait until he was elected for the transition to begin ...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/...rip/index.html



So far you have NO FACTS of any "official business" conducted by any member of the Trump Transition Team ... other than anecdotal comments by alleged, anonymous leakers and biased news media pundits.

BTW: Here's "The Logan Act"

18 U.S. Code § 953 -
"Private correspondence with foreign governments"



What was Obaminable doing, BTW, PRE-ELECTION?
The PTA does not authorize anyone on the transition team to conduct official business with other governments. It allows the team to familiarize themselves with current issues(get up to speed) only. The president-elect gets intel briefings, etc... Flynn discussing the lifting of sanctions with the Russian ambassador during the transition is a violation of the Logan Act. This is the opinion of legal professionals, not me.
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:43 AM   #49
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Flynn discussing the lifting of sanctions with the Russian ambassador during the transition is a violation of the Logan Act. This is the opinion of legal professionals, not me.
No, it's you...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...an-act-no.html
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:54 AM   #50
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Then Trump and Obama are the same?
Actually they aren't.

Trump is richer.
Trump has a prettier wife.
Trump and his wife like America.
Trump is smarter (see the above)!

There are other differences. Some obvious. Others not.
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Old 12-03-2017, 05:13 AM   #51
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The PTA does not authorize anyone on the transition team to conduct official business with other governments. It allows the team to familiarize themselves with current issues(get up to speed) only. The president-elect gets intel briefings, etc... Flynn discussing the lifting of sanctions with the Russian ambassador during the transition is a violation of the Logan Act. This is the opinion of legal professionals, not me.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

I suppose you are going to disclose these "legal professionals" so that their credentials can be adequately vetted.

So where in the PTA does it say "get up to speed" ... "ONLY"?

But since you want to play lawyer when does asking a foreign diplomat what his or her position will be on a certain topic and are they willing to wait until the new administration is in place "conducting business" as opposed to "familiarizing" themselves with the issues they will face in the upcoming year?

And since you want to play lawyer you should probably reread those provisions with respect to activities BEFORE vs. AFTER the general election. No where does it prohibit direct communications with foreign governments and NO WHERE does it restrict the access to information to that provided by the current administration (WHICH WE NOW KNOW WAS COOKED INTEL!)

The "history" behind the PTA of 1963 was the "transition" between Eisenhower and Kennedy. One FACT Kennedy was not given until AFTER HE WAS SWORN AS PRESIDENT is that the U.S. had over 8,000 military and "contractors" in S.E. Asia engaged with "enemy" forces and a carrier group off the coast running daily sorties (weather permitting)!

So restricting access to what a hostile administration spoon feeds the newly elected administration is not consistent with the legislative purpose and background of the original PTA and is further demonstrated by the various amending statutes.

"Intel briefings" (as you call them) were provided to Trump beginning immediately upon his nomination as the Republican candidate through appropriately authorized personnel and after his election through approved personnel with proper security clearances as indicated in the PTA and its amendments. BUT NOTHING IN THE PTA SAYS THAT'S ALL THE PRESIDENT-ELECT GETS!

Otherwise there would be no need for the numerous security clearances and budget for the transmission team and facilities.

In the current events it's clear from the outrageous behavior of the Democrats and the Obaminable Administration in the ramp up to Trump's swearing that the purpose of the PTA is to provide resources to the President-Elect INDEPENDENT of the existing hostile administration which has attempted to undermine the success of Trump at EVERY TURN right up until the day he was sworn ... .and AFTERWARDS.

NOW: who are those "legal professionals" of whom you speak?

Were you the goofball who said a Presidential pardon would be an "obstruction of justice"? Or was that another goofball?
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Old 12-03-2017, 05:16 AM   #52
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AssUp is almost as stupid as Joy Behar of The View ... almost.

She get's all giddy about fake news.
This is the report that got her all giddy...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...error-51537428

Think she'll walk back making a fool of herself on national TV? Hell, no!

You'd think Ross would have learned his lesson the first time.

#FAKENEWSABC
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Old 12-03-2017, 05:18 AM   #53
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This is the report that got her all giddy...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...error-51537428

Think she'll walk back making a fool of herself on national TV? Hell, no!

You'd think Ross would have learned his lesson the first time.

#FAKENEWSABC
He (Ross) was suspended without pay!

She's not smart enough to know she's a fool!
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Are We Tired Of WINNING, YET? MAGA!

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Chairman Nunes -VS- The Injustice League: Furious Nunes Threatens Contempt Amid Latest FBI Media Shenanigans…

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Methinks the sketchy FBI investigators are well aware of the risk if they become the subjects of the investigations. Specifically, as we noted earlier today, the orchestrated Deep State media leak within the Washington Post and New York Times is a clear indication the FBI political co-conspirators are aware of their exposure…




And Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, is righteously upset. Because, like us, Mr. Nunes can see how this game is being played out.

The recently demoted FBI Deputy Head of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok was not only the lead FBI agent in charge of the Clinton email investigation… and he was not only the agent that interviewed her… and he was not only the agent assigned to the top level of Robert Mueller’s 2016 team to investigate the Russian conspiracy… He was also the FBI contact person for Christopher Steele, the author of the Steele Russian Dossier.


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WASHINGTON – House Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes has issued an angry demand to the FBI and Department of Justice to explain why they kept the committee in the dark over the reason Special Counsel Robert Mueller kicked a key supervising FBI agent off the Trump-Russia investigation.

Stories in both the Washington Post and New York Times on Saturday reported that Peter Strzok, who played a key role in the original FBI investigation into the Trump-Russia matter, and then a key role in Mueller’s investigation, and who earlier had played an equally critical role in the FBI’s Hillary Clinton email investigation, was reassigned out of the Mueller office because of anti-Trump texts he exchanged with a top FBI lawyer, Lisa Page, with whom Strzok was having an extramarital affair. Strzok was transferred to the FBI’s human resources office — an obvious demotion — in July.




[…] Word of the messages and the affair were news to Nunes, even though the committee had issued a subpoena that covered information about Strzok’s demotion more than three months ago. The committee’s broadly worded subpoena for information related to the so-called Trump dossier went to the FBI and FOJ on Aug. 24. In follow-up conversations on the scope of the subpoena, committee staff told the FBI and DOJ that it included information on the circumstances of Strzok’s reassignment.

[…] Now, in what appears to be an orchestrated leak, both the Post and Times published the reason for Strzok’s demotion, along with concerns that the revelation might help President Trump.

[…] To add insult to injury, at just the moment the leaked stories appeared, the Justice Department out of the blue notified Nunes that it would meet some of the committee’s demands for information that it had been refusing for months. That didn’t make the chairman happy, either.

“The DOJ has now expressed — on a Saturday, just hours after the press reports on Strzok’s dismissal appeared — a sudden willingness to comply with some of the committee’s long-standing demands,” Nunes said in the statement. “This attempted 11th-hour accommodation is neither credible nor believable, and in fact is yet another example of the DOJ’s disingenuousness and obstruction.” (read more)



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Actually they aren't.

Trump is richer.
Trump has a prettier wife.
Trump and his wife like America.
Trump is smarter (see the above)!

There are other differences. Some obvious. Others not.
Trump is older with a store bought wife and will die much sooner than Obama...I doubt she stays with him to the end.

Trump is richer

Pretty is in the eye of the beholder

Trump loves himself more than anything else and his wife is not from this country.

Smarter is subjective....

So the only things objective is that Obama is younger and Trump is richer.

I'd rather be younger than richer. . . but that too is subjective.


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Actually they aren't.

Trump is richer.
Trump has a prettier wife.
Trump and his wife like America.
Trump is smarter (see the above)!

There are other differences. Some obvious. Others not.
Nice try , but skirted the question on Flynn.
But not bad for a democrat.
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Trump is richer.
Trump has a prettier wife.
Trump and his wife like America.
Trump is smarter (see the above)!

There are other differences. Some obvious. Others not.
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Nice try , but skirted the question on Flynn.
But not bad for a democrat.
Flynn is not "the question"! Flynn is a "fade" by a prosecutor.

"The question" is: Why did Trump pick Flynn in the first place?

Flynn is a pawn. But Flynn does know about the dealing of the Obaminable/Clinton crowd with the Russians. By now Mueller knows that and everyone "assumes" his deal with Flynn is TOO TALK, but his deal with Flynn may be NOT TO TALK! If one "assumes" Mueller is covering for the "Obaminable/Clinton crowd," WHICH INCLUDES HIS BUDDY, COMEY.

Leverage? Additional charges for which he has acknowledged the supporting facts in his "AGREED" Sentencing Memorandum for the plea he entered.
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