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07-22-2017, 07:26 AM
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Where is your gay little friend lustylad, he usually loves chiming in about economic theory. Maybe he can explain to 2dogs why the restriction of labor is a dood thing?
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07-22-2017, 07:31 AM
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Deblasio sure is one dumb motherfucker
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07-24-2017, 08:46 AM
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Deblasio sure is one dumb motherfucker
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As is Trump but that is beside the point..
I'm waiting for someone to tell me the difference between 15 dollars an hour wage whether it be from Trump sending all the Mexicans home ore by government mandate?
Tell me the difference to the businesses bottom line. Will the business owner make different decisions if for example the wage went to 15 dollars an hour because Trump sent all the Mexicans home vs government mandate?
Nobody can seem to answer that question.
Nobody can seem to answer the question of free flow of capital vs free flow of labor and why it is you are for one and not the other.
Why is that? Is it because you have been brainwashed with political partisan bullshit?
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07-24-2017, 01:10 PM
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As is Trump but that is beside the point..
I'm waiting for someone to tell me the difference between 15 dollars an hour wage whether it be from Trump sending all the Mexicans home ore by government mandate?
Tell me the difference to the businesses bottom line. Will the business owner make different decisions if for example the wage went to 15 dollars an hour because Trump sent all the Mexicans home vs government mandate?
Nobody can seem to answer that question.
Nobody can seem to answer the question of free flow of capital vs free flow of labor and why it is you are for one and not the other.
Why is that? Is it because you have been brainwashed with political partisan bullshit?
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Go here and ask your stupid fucking question:
https://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/...pital-vs-labor
Now STFU
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07-24-2017, 01:22 PM
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From your link
Free flow of capital vs. labor
Those who like first hate the second. Those who hate the first love the second. I find these positions inconsistent. There shouldn't be any restrictions on either.
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07-24-2017, 02:27 PM
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From your link
Free flow of capital vs. labor
[I]Those who like first hate the second. Those who hate the first love the second. I find these positions inconsistent. There shouldn't be any restrictions on either.[/I
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You asked for an answer so I showed you one. Now STFU.
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07-24-2017, 02:44 PM
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You asked for an answer so I showed you one. Now STFU. 
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Number 1, it is a rhetorical question. I know the answer bambam.
2 , 2dogs was the one arguing how good restricting labor markets were, not me.
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07-24-2017, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
As is Trump but that is beside the point..
I'm waiting for someone to tell me the difference between 15 dollars an hour wage whether it be from Trump sending all the Mexicans home ore by government mandate?
Tell me the difference to the businesses bottom line. Will the business owner make different decisions if for example the wage went to 15 dollars an hour because Trump sent all the Mexicans home vs government mandate?
Nobody can seem to answer that question.
Nobody can seem to answer the question of free flow of capital vs free flow of labor and why it is you are for one and not the other.
Why is that? Is it because you have been brainwashed with political partisan bullshit?
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Maybe cause we don't think sending all the illegals home WILL force wages to go to 15/hr..
Also, if a Company itself wants to offer 15/hr wages, then that is THEIR CHOICE.
However most of us don't like the govt telling us we HAVE TO pay that amount..
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07-24-2017, 03:40 PM
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Maybe cause we don't think sending all the illegals home WILL force wages to go to 15/hr..
Also, if a Company itself wants to offer 15/hr wages, then that is THEIR CHOICE.
However most of us don't like the govt telling us we HAVE TO pay that amount..
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Wow , how profound. Most people do not want the government telling them what to do. I agree.
Next, do you like the government telling you who to hire?
I mean you do not like the government telling you how to pay but you do not mind them telling you who you can hire?
Do you understand what Free flow of capital vs. labor even means?
Free flow of capital vs. labor
Those who like first hate the second. Those who hate the first love the second. I find these positions inconsistent. There shouldn't be any restrictions on either.
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07-24-2017, 11:31 PM
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Next, do you like the government telling you who to hire?
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Since the laws already exist that tell you, you can't discriminate against hiring XYZ, and that to WORK in this country you must be
A) A citizen
B) Valid green card holder
C) Legal permanent resident
They already ARE telling us who to hire..
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07-24-2017, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by garhkal
Since the laws already exist that tell you, you can't discriminate against hiring XYZ, and that to WORK in this country you must be
A) A citizen
B) Valid green card holder
C) Legal permanent resident
They already ARE telling us who to hire..
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Exactly....next they'll tell us how much to pay them!
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07-25-2017, 07:47 AM
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Number 1, it is a rhetorical question. I know the answer bambam.
2 , 2dogs was the one arguing how good restricting labor markets were, not me.
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The link is just a blog Dick Fuck, it's just some chalooch's opinion. Doesn't make him right. Just like you. Here's a good article on immigration economics. It may be above your pay grade but give it a try!
https://www.theatlantic.com/business...ricans/384060/
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07-25-2017, 08:34 AM
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The article actually makes the point that competition should be opened up in all fields, not just the lower skilled.
Maybe you should take a reading and comprehension course!
Read the last few paragraphs bambam.  There is a reason lustylady will not join this debate. It is a losing one if you talk economics and not nationalism.
Theoretically, a nation could determine that high-skill labor is complementary to low-skilled labor and make decisions such as the following:
“If we admit a lot of foreign-born surgeons, we could hugely drive down the cost of major medical operations. American-born doctors would shift their labor to fields where their language facility gave them a competitive advantage: away from surgery to general practice. This policy would hugely enhance the relative purchasing power of plumbers and mechanics, enabling them to eat out more often and buy more American-made entertainment, increasing GDP and creating jobs.”
Or: “The ratio of CEO pay to other workers has skyrocketed. Obviously we are suffering from a glut of workers and massive CEO scarcity. We should issue work permits automatically to any executive with a job offer that pays more than $500,000 a year. Americans with organizational skills will be pressed to shift to the public sector, improving the quality and lowering the cost to taxpayers of government services.”
But that’s not how things are done. In the United States, the hypothesis of native-immigrant complementarity is deployed to justify policies that intensify competition for the lower and middle echelons of the society, rarely near the top. Perhaps it doesn’t have to be that way, yet somehow it always is.
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07-25-2017, 09:01 AM
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The article actually makes the point that competition should be opened up in all fields, not just the lower skilled.
Maybe you should take a reading and comprehension course!
Read the last paragraph bambam. 
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I read it. The bottomline was there becomes a point of diminishing returns on low skill immigrant labor. I agree with that. It's why the Dems have lost 1000 seats and Trump won the election. People in the real economy are hurting. But hey, millions of illegals vote too!!!!!!
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07-25-2017, 09:07 AM
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I read it. The bottomline was there becomes a point of diminishing returns on low skill immigrant labor. I agree with that. It's why the Dems have lost 1000 seats and Trump won the election. People in the real economy are hurting. But hey, millions of illegals vote too!!!!!! 
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They need to get off their ass and get a job....we have low unemployment in this country and you are lying about millions of illegals voting.
You obviously do not understand the benefits of both free flow of capital and labor.
There is a reason lustylad will not come to your rescue in this thread.
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