SCOTUS and The Travel Ban

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

For some reason you and others have predetermined views on what life is like in predominantly Muslim countries. Most of those views are incorrect.

I see. what part of my views are incorrect?

Most muslims are nice & friendly, but when the chips are down, most will side with their muslim brothers over a non-muslim minority. violence is a major part of it.

the fact that you visited a number of muslim countries doesn't make you an expert. big whoop. you were lucky that you didn't see any violence.

and theres something else you probably never noticed, they are the biggest hypocrits when it certain rights.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

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the fact that you visited a number of muslim countries doesn't make you an expert. big whoop. you were lucky that you didn't see any violence.

He obviously didn't wear his "tight bike shorts" with his swishy ass parading among the "real Muslims" or he would have "seen" some violence ...

.... if they allowed him off the Rubber Neck Bus.

He's also an "expert" on Texas, even though he's just visiting.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

and theres something else you probably never noticed, they are the biggest hypocrites when it certain rights.

eh.. that got mangled abit at end.

it should read "when it comes to respecting certain rights of their citizens"

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

it should read "when it comes to respecting certain rights of their citizens"

... look what they do to each other....

... but tight-pants wouldn't know much about that ....

... he was "touring" the Muslim countries!

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

I see. what part of my views are incorrect?

Most muslims are nice & friendly, but when the chips are down, most will side with their muslim brothers over a non-muslim minority. violence is a major part of it.

the fact that you visited a number of muslim countries doesn't make you an expert. big whoop. you were lucky that you didn't see any violence.

and theres something else you probably never noticed, they are the biggest hypocrits when it certain rights.

I do not pretend to be an expert on Muslim life but when one visits with them for an extended period of time it is not difficult to see that their goals in life are as simple as our goals here in this country. I have visited 4 predominantly Muslim countries. All 4 have murder rates lower per capita than the U.S., although Turkey comes somewhat close. The other 3 are well below. All 4 have violent crime rates much lower per capita than the U.S. So it probably was not a coincidence that I did not see any violence.

If you want, I will go back and try to find statements you have made in the past that are incorrect. Fortunately I don't have to look further than your second and last paragraphs in this post. Both statements are much more opinion than fact since there are no facts to support those statements. As I've just stated, violence in Muslim countries is lower than found in the U.S.

Hypocrites? Have anything to back that up?

[LexusLover]

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The Spam Man!

Tight-Shorts Speedo is criticizing someone for giving an "opinion"?

That's rich!

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

^^^^^ SPAM



The Spam Man!

Tight-Shorts Speedo is criticizing someone for giving an "opinion"?

That's rich!

Would he be so critical of the reach-around crew leader offering HIS opinion of Speedy's rainbow colored shorts ?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

^^^^^ SPAM

The Spam Man!

Tight-Shorts Speedo is criticizing someone for giving an "opinion"?

That's rich!

I love it. What a ridiculous old man. You take the time to post crap like this but absolutely no response to my post asking you to back up your calling me a liar. NOTHING. As I said, you are the king of BS and will never supply anything to back up that BS. I know your memory is maybe 24 hours, possibly related to an alcohol problem, but next time you refer to ME as a liar, hopefully others will remember your failure to back up your statements. It's one thing to disagree with someone, it's another thing to call some one out as a liar without any proof at all.

Fantastic comeback!! I've voted for 2 of the last 3 winners for POTUS. How about you? You continually say I lie about certain things, this time about Sharia Law, yet when you are asked to back it up by citing exactly what I've said that you consider to be lies, NOTHING!! Put up or shut up old man. You lie when you say "You threaten to kick my ass!" I have NEVER threatened you. So that is one lie YOU just told. You will not find one post where I've complained about Trump being POTUS. ANOTHER LIE. You say I make up shit about my travels. ANOTHER LIE unless you can prove otherwise. You are the king of BS.

BACK UP YOUR ACCUSATIONS!! I know you won't because your modus operandi when proven wrong is just to ignore the post and start up again somewhere else.

Ignorant redneck hillbilly.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

He obviously didn't wear his "tight bike shorts" with his swishy ass parading among the "real Muslims" or he would have "seen" some violence ...

.... if they allowed him off the Rubber Neck Bus.

He's also an "expert" on Texas, even though he's just visiting.

I spend 2 years stationed in Bahrain, and even though they are supposed to be our allies, were were told in no uncertain terms, don't go running during the hot days in the evening in anything BUT long sweats, during Ramadan time frame OR YOU WILL Get stoned to death..
If you were a female, don't drive yourself during ramadan, you will be bumped, drug out of the car and beaten for daring to offend their sensibilities. AND ESPECIALLY don't do that if you cross the bridge into Saudi..

I do not pretend to be an expert on Muslim life but when one visits with them for an extended period of time it is not difficult to see that their goals in life are as simple as our goals here in this country. I have visited 4 predominantly Muslim countries. All 4 have murder rates lower per capita than the U.S., although Turkey comes somewhat close. The other 3 are well below. All 4 have violent crime rates much lower per capita than the U.S. So it probably was not a coincidence that I did not see any violence.

Have you ever thought that is cause they are so bloody HARSH ON criminals there, compared to how we moddy coddle them here in the US??

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by garhkal

I spend 2 years stationed in Bahrain, and even though they are supposed to be our allies, were were told in no uncertain terms, don't go running during the hot days in the evening in anything BUT long sweats, during Ramadan time frame OR YOU WILL Get stoned to death..
If you were a female, don't drive yourself during ramadan, you will be bumped, drug out of the car and beaten for daring to offend their sensibilities. AND ESPECIALLY don't do that if you cross the bridge into Saudi..

Have you ever thought that is cause they are so bloody HARSH ON criminals there, compared to how we moddy coddle them here in the US??

Since Bahrain is geographically so close to Saudi Arabia, I would expect their religious beliefs to be rather similar. I was in the UAE for only 24 hours, also during Ramadan, and I would consider that place to also be on the very conservative side. Although I walked around in shorts (very hot!!) and ate in restaurants while the Muslims could only watch, I did not have anyone show any animosity towards me.

Almost every country in the world, except for most 3rd world countries, has a murder rate and violent crime rate much lower than the U.S. The Muslim countries are right in the range with other developed countries. Bahrain is one of those countries most Americans know little about. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the place. I did google "night life in Bahrain" and was surprised what I found:

"Many tourists consider the island of Bahrain the “Hawaii of the Middle East.” During the day, Bahrain offers beautiful views and amazing beaches. But, when the sun goes down, the island comes alive with a great nightlife featuring exciting clubs and bars.

Overall, Bahrain is a great tourist location for international travelers and Saudi Arabian residents. The island packs so many entertainment and food/beverage options into one space that you should easily find a favorite location to enjoy Bahrain’s nightlife."

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Since Bahrain is geographically so close to Saudi Arabia, I would expect their religious beliefs to be rather similar. I was in the UAE for only 24 hours, also during Ramadan, and I would consider that place to also be on the very conservative side. Although I walked around in shorts (very hot!!) and ate in restaurants while the Muslims could only watch, I did not have anyone show any animosity towards me.

Almost every country in the world, except for most 3rd world countries, has a murder rate and violent crime rate much lower than the U.S. The Muslim countries are right in the range with other developed countries. Bahrain is one of those countries most Americans know little about. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the place. I did google "night life in Bahrain" and was surprised what I found:

"Many tourists consider the island of Bahrain the “Hawaii of the Middle East.” During the day, Bahrain offers beautiful views and amazing beaches. But, when the sun goes down, the island comes alive with a great nightlife featuring exciting clubs and bars.

Overall, Bahrain is a great tourist location for international travelers and Saudi Arabian residents. The island packs so many entertainment and food/beverage options into one space that you should easily find a favorite location to enjoy Bahrain’s nightlife."

the problem with crime statistics in muslim countries are fudged to avoid inconvenient facts about them. attacks against a non-muslim, honor killings aren't considered crimes in those countries. the rate is prolly higher.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I do not pretend to be an expert on Muslim life but when one visits with them for an extended period of time it is not difficult to see that their goals in life are as simple as our goals here in this country. I have visited 4 predominantly Muslim countries. All 4 have murder rates lower per capita than the U.S., although Turkey comes somewhat close. The other 3 are well below. All 4 have violent crime rates much lower per capita than the U.S. So it probably was not a coincidence that I did not see any violence.

If you want, I will go back and try to find statements you have made in the past that are incorrect. Fortunately I don't have to look further than your second and last paragraphs in this post. Both statements are much more opinion than fact since there are no facts to support those statements. As I've just stated, violence in Muslim countries is lower than found in the U.S.

Hypocrites? Have anything to back that up?

FYI, speedy.

Select [Parliament] Committee on Home Affairs Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence

APPENDIX 8

Since 1967, homicide figures for England and Wales have been adjusted to exclude any cases which do not result in conviction, or where the person is not prosecuted on grounds of self defence or otherwise. This reduces the apparent number of homicides by between 13 per cent and 15 per cent.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Bahrain is one of those countries most Americans know little about. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the place

Many of the restaurants were very good, but don't try going out on a Thursday or Friday evening (since those are the muslim weekend nights) as all the bars and 'strip joints' would get CLOGGED with saudi men, looking to hook up, and if ever questioned on the hypocristy of it, they would say "Over here, Allah can't see us"..

So much for Allah being the great and powerful, if he can't see someone 50 miles away breaking his tenants..

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by garhkal

Many of the restaurants were very good, but don't try going out on a Thursday or Friday evening (since those are the muslim weekend nights) as all the bars and 'strip joints' would get CLOGGED with saudi men, looking to hook up, and if ever questioned on the hypocristy of it, they would say "Over here, Allah can't see us"..

So much for Allah being the great and powerful, if he can't see someone 50 miles away breaking his tenants..

That's pretty funny. I would say it happens here in the states too. How many religious leaders have been caught with their pants down. No pun intended. How many of us married men have committed adultery? A friend of mine from my church was responsible for introducing a young woman to the "escort" business. Hypocrisy exists all over the world.

Thanks for the insight. Not sure if I would like to vacation there, but it sounds like an interesting place.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

FYI, speedy.

Thanks for the info. I'm sure that such data, even while being the best source for information, will be somewhat incorrect in many cases.