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Old 06-12-2017, 08:15 AM   #16
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But I could see liberals supporting statehood for P.R they could use the votes in their mind.

Just make it so PR's Electoral Vote would count as a MINUS 8.
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Old 06-12-2017, 10:28 AM   #17
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I am not going to take it to the extreme where you have, I am against statehood for P.R because financially we would have to absorb their massive debt and they would become a welfare state which we don't need. P.R has nothing good going for them expect perhaps tourism, but their infrastructure and schools are in shambles. I don't how this compares to Obama and Hawaii.
I was trying to be a bit facetious, lol.



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Old 06-12-2017, 11:57 AM   #18
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I was trying to be a bit facetious, lol.



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PR has seen how well California has played being a "State" to acquire welfare funds from the rest of the U.S. and to get the rest of the U.S. to pay for their health care costs AND utility bills!!! PR wants on that "tit" too! Just become a country and declare war on the U.S.
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Old 06-12-2017, 02:07 PM   #19
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Historically, a state had to petition the US government to become a state. Each territory had to establish law and certain internal systems to even be considered. Bringing PR into the country does not benefit the US right now and what no one has mentioned is two senators who are very likely democrats and two, maybe three, representatives who will defnitely be democrats.
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Old 06-12-2017, 07:40 PM   #20
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Historically, a territory had to petition the US government to become a state. Each territory had to establish law and certain internal systems to even be considered. Bringing PR into the country does not benefit the US right now and what no one has mentioned is two senators who are very likely democrats and two, maybe three, representatives who will defnitely be democrats.
that should be territory not state. fixed!

Heres the thing with PR. I see a replay happening like that thing with the statehood referendum in Hawaii 1959. it was very controversial back then.

the PR statehood faction appears to be center-right. the leadership apparently took over this year. the 2 opposition parties are basic run of the mill leftists.

PR delegation is very likely will be democrats if constituted as a state. that is assuming they will change names or remain independent and associate with democrats.

However, PR plans to appoint & send 7 delegates (2 senators & 5 reps) via the Tennessee plan to congress and demand PR be a state. Those people are likely the center-right faction.

they'll be bitch slapped.
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Old 06-12-2017, 07:49 PM   #21
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We definitely don't need Puerto Rico as a state. I would be afraid fifty years from now some yahoo will be born there and want to run for president and we'll have to let him. Hopefully this country has learned a lesson with Hawaii and Obama. I am just saying.


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They're Americans, you ignorant hayseed.
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:16 PM   #22
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They're Americans, you ignorant hayseed.
up to a point. they're proto-americans until we kick them out. they cannot vote in the presidential elections or vote in congress.

they're basically 2nd class citizens.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:05 PM   #23
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Wow very low turnout. I hope congress doesn't ever look at making them a state. P.R would be nothing but a welfare state they we would have to bail out. But I could see liberals supporting statehood for P.R they could use the votes in their mind.
Puerto Ricans know with their debt and Cuba coming on line they better get statehood before they become more irrelevant. The Hooter's there is awful and they closed down the Black Angus. One time I went to the top strip club in San Juan and there wasn't a woman in the place for until 10pm.

Part of their problem is they used Spanish law and not English Law.
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They're Americans, you ignorant hayseed.
No they aren't. They're Puerto Ricans their primary language is Spanish. Puerto Rico is 1000 miles from the nearest State which is Florida. They don't give a fuck about America or being called American. The only reason they would want statehood is to benefit from what America has to offer them.

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Old 06-12-2017, 09:45 PM   #25
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they are AINO - Americans In Name Only!
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Puerto Rico Votes To Accept Statehood
I have voted - one yea, no nays - to accept Scarlett Johansson as my sex slave.
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they are AINO - Americans In Name Only!
Puerto Ricans have U.S. Citizenship but calling them Americans is hardly proper. Puerto Rico is an unincorporated U.S. territory with a population of about 3.5 million people 85% who only speak Spanish. They have a 45% poverty rate and unemployment is over 13% and to top it off their economic situation is pathetic with 70 Billion Dollars in debt. Citizens are exempt from paying Federal Income Tax. This year Puerto Rico has filed the biggest bankruptcy in U.S. history. To sum it up a low uneducated poverty stricken country who has nothing to bring to the American table has the gall to ask for United States Statehood. Any American citizen who would support that needs to be admitted to a psych ward. On a side note, 29% of adults in Puerto Rico smoke compared to the 15% of Americans who smoke. They would also be a massive burden on our Healthcare System.

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Old 06-13-2017, 10:32 PM   #28
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Does the rest of the USA need this?

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...hood/22137047/

I can't see Congress acting on this any time soon.

I think the best course would be to cut them loose and allow them to become an independent Nation.
I was hoping they wouldn't. BUT i wonder. now they are a state, does that mean they will get 'electoral votes'? Does that mean they now have to PAY US TAXES? Abide by US laws etc?

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Another item. If the Congress voted for Puerto Rico Statehood, it would indeed become another Liberal enclave looking for the Federal Government to solve all of it's problems. That means they would send two more Liberal/Socialist/Progressive Senators to Washington, plus one or two House Members.

Puerto Rico would just become another "Paul" in the "take from Peter to pay Paul" scenario.
Which is why i HOPE congress rejects their request, with a big Slop off!
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I was hoping they wouldn't. BUT i wonder. now they are a state, does that mean they will get 'electoral votes'? Does that mean they now have to PAY US TAXES? Abide by US laws etc?
they are not a state until Congress votes on it.
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OK. IF congress votes them in, will they then have to do all that.
ALso does it mean we need to once again redesign old glory?
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