Why wasn't Saudi Arabia on Trump's list?

[dirty dog]

Hey you liberal fucktards, he used your heros list of countries promoting terrorism, yes your hero Obama, so why didn't Obama have Saudi Arabia on that list. Did he have a hotel there. Fucking retards crack me up with this crap. You idiots are beyond stupid.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Why don't you list the countries Trump has a hotel? Provide links for proof also. Thanks in advance you intellectually disingenuous asshole.

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Are there refugees coming out of Saudi? Yes or no.

Originally Posted by dirty dog

Hey you liberal fucktards, he used your heros list of countries promoting terrorism, yes your hero Obama, so why didn't Obama have Saudi Arabia on that list. Did he have a hotel there. Fucking retards crack me up with this crap. You idiots are beyond stupid.

Crickets.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Are there refugees coming out of Saudi? Yes or no.

Providers-in-training .... seeking to make America Great Again!

[wordup666]

Can anyone name one person coming from the seven countries in the last 10 years to commit a terrorist act?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by wordup666

Can anyone name one person coming from the seven countries in the last 10 years to commit a terrorist act?

Why?

Oh, forgot to ask.

Have you started looking for a 2020 POTUS candidate to support?

[JD Barleycorn]

Why, after World War II, did we prepare for war with the USSR instead of preparing for war with Germany and Japan again? Of course, if this was truly a Muslim ban then they would ban the other 46 predominently Muslim countries from sending people here.

[andymarksman]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Odumbo suspended immigration from Syria in 2011....

Wrong! He merely "paused approvals of refugee applications from Iraq for a period of six months after two Iraqi al-Quaeda terrorists were discovered living as refugees in Kentucky... to allow FBI agents enough [time] to gather fingerprints from captured roadside bombs, which they used to toughen their refugee screening process." Therefore his EO is not an order of "banning," like Trump's.


http://mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/...carter-9717520

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by wordup666

Can anyone name one person coming from the seven countries in the last 10 years to commit a terrorist act?

Get your pappy to read it to you, eehhhbuhhhrrrr!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...a/#more-127858

1 Yemen – Anwar al-Awlaki was an American and Yemeni imam and Islamic lecturer. U.S. government officials allege that he was a senior recruiter and motivator who was involved in planning terrorist operations for the Islamist militant group al-Qaeda (link) al-Awlaki spoke with and preached to three of the alleged 9/11 hijackers who were al-Qaeda members. Awlaki presided at the funeral of the mother of Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army psychiatrist who later e-mailed him extensively in 2008–09 before the Fort Hood shootings. Awlaki was the mastermind behind Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who attempted the 2009 Christmas Day (underwear) bombing of an American airliner.


2 Somalia – More than 20 people in Minnesota have faced federal charges related to Al Shabaab, an African terror group, with at least 10 more cases related to ISIS. Defendants have usually been detained while awaiting trial, as prosecutors have argued that they remain flight risks and threats to the community. (link)

– On November 18, 2013, in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, Issa Doreh was sentenced to ten years in prison for “conspiracy to provide material support to terrorist, conspiracy to provide material support to foreign terrorist organization, conspiracy to launder monetary instruments, and providing material support to foreign terrorist organization.” Doreh was admitted to the United States as a refugee from Somalia and subsequently obtained a green card and became a citizen. Doreh worked at a money transmitting business that was at the center of the conspiracy, which also involved Ahmed Nasir Taalil Mohamud.

– On January 31, 2014, in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, Ahmed Nasir Taalil Mohamud was sentenced to six years in prison for conspiracy to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization. Mohamud was admitted to the United States as a refugee from Somalia. He worked as a cabdriver in Anaheim, California where he raised money for the terrorist organization Al-Shabaab. According to the Department of Justice, “[t]he United States presented evidence that Nasir . . . conspired to provide money to al Shabaab, a violent and brutal militia group that engages in suicide bombings, targets civilians for assassination, and uses improvised explosive devices.”

– On April 20, 2015, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Minnesota, Abdurahman Yasin Daud was charged (along with six others) with conspiracy and attempt to provide material support to ISIS. Daud, a Somalian refugee who came to the United States as a child, and subsequently obtained a green card. Daud and another individual drove from Minnesota to San Diego to attempt to get passports, cross the border into Mexico, and fly to Syria in to join ISIS.

– On February 5, 2015, in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas, Abdinassir Mohamud Ibrahim was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison for conspiring to provide material support to Al-Shabaab, a designated foreign terrorist organization, and for making a false statement in his immigration paperwork. Ibrahim is a native of Somalia who came to the United States as a refugee in 2007 at the age of 22 and subsequently obtained a green card. Ibrahim knowingly lied on his citizenship application and previously lied in his request for refugee status, by falsely claiming that he was of a member of the minority Awer clan in Somalia and subject to persecution by the majority Hawiye clan. Ibrahim was actually a member of the Hawiye clan and not subject to persecution. In fact, according to court documents, “Ibrahim’s family was famous . . . [and] [t]hrough his clan lineage, Ibrahim was related to known Somali terrorists[.]” Ibrahim also admitted he lied on his citizenship application by having previously lied on his refugee application by falsely claiming that he had not provided material support to a terrorist group, when he had in fact provided material support in the form of cash to an Al-Shabaab member.

3 Syria – An Ohio man traveled to Syria and trained alongside terrorists, then returned to the U.S. with plans to attack a military base or a prison, according to a federal indictment. Abdirahman Sheik Mohamud, a U.S. citizen originally from Somalia, wanted to “kill three or four American soldiers execution style,” according to the indictment. Attacking the prison was part of a backup plan if that didn’t work, the charges said. The indictment also says Mohamud’s brother, Abdifatah Aden, fought with Jabhat al-Nusrah, a State Department-designated terrorist group, until he was killed in battle in Syria in June 2014. (link)

– On January 7, 2016, in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California, Aws Mohammed Younis Al-Jayab was charged with providing materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statements and representations to the United States government. He was separately indicted on March 17, 2016 for attempting to provide material support to acts of violence overseas. Al-Jayab — a Palestinian born in Iraq — was admitted to the United States as a refugee in 2012. According to the criminal complaint, beginning in October of 2012 — the very same month he first arrived in the United States — Al-Jayab began communicating with numerous individuals about his intention to go to Syria and fight for terrorist organizations. In April 2013, Al-Jayab made multiple statements to another individual (later identified as Omar Faraj Saeed Al Hardan) regarding his experience handling weapons and killing individuals in Syria. In November 2013, just one year after being welcomed to the United States as a refugee, he traveled to Syria and posted on social media that he was fighting with various terrorist organizations, stating “America will not isolate me from my Islamic duty. Only death will do us part.”

– On February 5, 2015, in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, Nihad Rosic was charged with conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists, providing material support to terrorists, and conspiring to kill and maim persons in a foreign country. Rosic is a native of Bosnia who sources indicate came to the United States as a refugee, obtained a green card, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship. According to the indictment, Rosic sent funds to terrorists abroad, and attempted to travel to Syria to join terrorists in Syria and Iraq. According to press accounts, Rosic was a truck driver and former mixed martial arts fighter who had previously been charged with endangering the welfare of a child after punching a woman in the face while she held a child, and in a separate incident, was charged with assault after allegedly beating his girlfriend with a belt.

4 Sudan – Idaho, Twin Falls Police Chief Craig Kingsbury has confirmed that three boys who were allegedly involved in the rape of a five-year-old girl in Twin Falls were of Iraqi and Sudanese descent. (link) Sudan was designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1993 due to concerns about support to international terrorist groups. Elements of al-Qa’ida-inspired terrorist groups remain in Sudan. groups continued to operate in Sudan in 2014 and there continued to be reports of Sudanese nationals participating in terrorist organizations. In 2014, Sudan continued to allow members of Hamas to travel, fundraise, and live in Sudan. In June 2010, four Sudanese men sentenced to death for the January 1, 2008 killing of two U.S. Embassy staff members escaped from Khartoum’s maximum security Kober prison. (link)

– On April 20, 2015, in the U.S. District Court for the District of Minnesota, Guled Ali Omar was charged with conspiracy and attempt to provide material support to ISIS. Omar was born in a Kenyan refugee camp, and sources indicate he came to the United States as a refugee when he was a child, obtained a green card, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship. Omar is the younger brother of another indicted fugitive, Ahmed Ali Omar, who left the United States in 2007 to fight for Al-Shabaab. Another one of his brothers, Mohamed Ali Omar, was convicted in March of 2015 of threatening federal agents when they came to the family’s residence to interview Guled Omar. During a press conference, U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota, Andy Luger, said that Omar “never stopped plotting,” and had previously attempted to leave the United States.

– On January 29, 2015, in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, a federal warrant was unsealed for the arrest of Liban Haji Mohamed for allegedly providing material support to Harakat Shabaab Al-Mujahidin, also known as Al-Shabaab and Al-Qaeda. Mohamed is a native of Somalia who sources indicate came to the United States as a refugee, obtained a green card, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship. He is believed to have left the United States on July 5, 2012, with the intent to join Al-Shabaab in East Africa. Mohamed previously lived in the Washington, D.C. area and worked as a cab driver, and is believed to have snuck across the border to Mexico after being placed on the no-fly list. Carl Ghattas, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Washington, D.C. Field Office emphasized the importance of locating Mohamed, “because he has knowledge of the Washington, D.C. area’s infrastructure such as shopping areas, Metro, airports, and government buildings . . . [t]his makes him an asset to his terrorist associates who might plot attacks on U.S. soil.”

5 Iraq – The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints. (link) An ABC News investigation of the flawed U.S. refugee screening system, which was overhauled two years ago, showed that Alwan was mistakenly allowed into the U.S. and resettled in the leafy southern town of Bowling Green, Kentucky.

– On February 18, 2015, Al-Hazmah Mohammed Jawad was arrested as he attempted to board a flight to Jordan to join and fight with ISIS in Iraq. Jawad was admitted to the United States in 2013 as an Iraqi refugee and he subsequently obtained a green card. Jawad was charged with making a false statement to U.S. government officials. He also stated that he “had been to the shooting range and had been running to get in shape and prepare for his upcoming travels,” and that a uniform was waiting for him in Iraq.

– On January 7, 2016, in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Texas, Omar Faraj Saeed Al Hardan was charged in an indictment with attempting to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization, making false statements, and attempting to procure citizenship or naturalization unlawfully. The indictment states that he attempted to provide training, expert advice and assistance, and personnel — specifically himself — to a terrorist organization. Al Hardan — a Palestinian born in Iraq — was admitted to the United States as a refugee in 2009, and obtained a green card in 2011. When applying to become a U.S. citizen, he knowingly responded, certified, and swore untruthfully that he was not associated with a terrorist organization when, in fact, he associated with members and sympathizers of ISIS throughout 2014. During an interview in October 2015, Al Hardan falsely represented that he had never received any type of weapons training, when in fact he had received automatic machine gun training. According to media accounts, Al Hardan told his wife “I will go to Syria. I want to blow myself up. . . . I am against America.”

– On May 25, 2016, in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas, Bilal Abood was sentenced to four years in prison for making a false statement to the FBI. Abood, an Iraqi translator for the U.S. military, was admitted to the United States through the Special Immigrant Visa program for Iraqi translators in 2009, and subsequently became a citizen. Abood enlisted in the Army and went through basic training at Fort Jackson in 2010, but left for unknown reasons. According to court documents, after being prevented from boarding an international flight, Abood told FBI agents that he intended to go to Iraq to visit family. Subsequently, Abood left the United States through Mexico and then traveled through various countries to get to Syria to join ISIS. A subsequent search of his computer revealed that he pledged an oath to the leader of ISIS, despite denying that he had ever made such a pledge.

– On January 29, 2013, in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Kentucky, Waad Ramadan Alwan was sentenced to 40 years in federal prison, followed by a life term of supervised release for a number of offenses related to terrorism. Alwan is a native of Iraq who was admitted to the United States as a refugee in 2009. According to the Department of Justice’s press release, “Alwan, whose fingerprints were found on an unexploded IED found in Iraq, pleaded guilty earlier in the case on December 16, 2011, to all counts of a 23-count federal indictment. He pleaded guilty to conspiring to kill U.S. nationals abroad; conspiring to use a weapon of mass destruction (explosives) against U.S. nationals abroad; distributing information on the manufacture and use of IEDs; attempting to provide material support to terrorists and to AQI; and conspiring to transfer, possess, and export Stinger missiles.” (emphasis added). During the investigation, while “unwittingly working with an FBI informant, Alwan drew diagrams of roadside bomb models and boasted about attacks on American troops in Iraq.” In a discussion with an FBI informant, Alwan allegedly said that he was skilled with a sniper rifle, and that his “lunch and dinner would be an American [soldier].”

6 Iran – FBI and DEA agents have disrupted a plot to commit a “significant terrorist act in the United States” tied to Iran, federal officials told ABC News today. The officials said the plot included the assassination of the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the United States, Adel Al-Jubeir, with a bomb and subsequent bomb attacks on the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Washington, D.C. Bombings of the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Buenos Aires, Argentina, were also discussed, according to the U.S. officials. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in an announcement today that the plan was “conceived, sponsored and was directed from Iran” by a faction of the government and called it a “flagrant” violation of U.S. and international law. “The U.S. is committed to holding Iran accountable for its actions,” Holder said. (link)

– On January 29, 2013, in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Kentucky, Mohanad Shareef Hammadi was sentenced to life in prison for a number of offenses related to terrorism. Hammadi is a native of Iraq who was admitted to the United States as a refugee in 2009. According to the Department of Justice’s press release, “Hammadi pleaded guilty on August 21, 2012, to a 12-count superseding indictment. Charges against him included attempting to provide material support to terrorists and to AQI; conspiring to transfer, possess, and export Stinger missiles; and making a false statement in an immigration application.”

7 Libya – A U.S. citizen was among nine killed when gunmen stormed a luxury hotel in the Libyan capital of Tripoli on Tuesday, a senior State Department official said. The attack on the Corinthia Hotel, which sits along the Mediterranean Sea, triggered an hours-long standoff that ended when two assailants set off a grenade that killed them, officials said. Four foreigners and five guards were killed in the attack. The State Department official didn’t provide additional details. (link) There is no current central government in Libya.

[andymarksman]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Carter suspended immigration from Iran in 1980....

Wrong again! The fact is that "between 1979 and 1981..., the U.S. took in nearly 30,000 immigrants from Iran with over 10,000 arriving in 1980 alone." That's more than any numbers the U.S had accepted in a single year up to that point.


http://dailykos.com/story/2015/12/10...ake-Him-A-Nazi

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by andymarksman

Wrong! He merely "paused approvals of refugee applications ...

Trump "merely paused approvals of immigration/travel documents from the 7 countries identified for 90 and 120 days (3 and 4 months) until a more reliable vetting process can be established.

Thanks Andy!

Now that we have that settled can we focus on the Super Bowl?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by andymarksman

Wrong! He merely "paused approvals of refugee applications from Iraq for a period of six months after two Iraqi al-Quaeda terrorists were discovered living as refugees in Kentucky... to allow FBI agents enough [time] to gather fingerprints from captured roadside bombs, which they used to toughen their refugee screening process." Therefore his EO is not an order of "banning," like Trump's.


http://mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/...carter-9717520

Slick Willie Blythe has taught you well young Nazi.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pause?s=t

noun 1. a temporary stop or rest, especially in speech or action: a short pause after each stroke of the oar.


2.a cessation of activity because of doubt or uncertainty; a momentary hesitation.

3.any comparatively brief stop, delay, wait, etc.: I would like to make a pause in my talk and continue after lunch.


4. a break or rest in speaking or reading to emphasize meaning, grammatical relation, metrical division, etc., or in writing or printing by the use of punctuation.

5. Prosody. a break or suspension, as a caesura, in a line of verse.

6. Music. a fermata.

verb (used without object), paused, pausing. 7. to make a brief stop or delay; wait; hesitate: He paused at the edge of the pool for a moment. I'll pause in my lecture so we can all get some coffee.


8. to dwell or linger (usually followed by on or upon): to pause upon a particular point.





true or false Nazi ..

Pause is a Synonym of Suspend yes or no?




Synonyms See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
1–3. suspension, interruption, break, halt; hiatus, lacuna. 7. rest. 8. tarry, delay.



I say toMAYto .. u say toMATo what's the difference???

[andymarksman]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

FDR suspended immigration from Japan, Germany and Italy in 1941....

Where is that such "alleged order," Little Hans? I don't think FDR was that dumb to issue such orders to scare those "enemy aliens" away, nor were they that dumb to even apply for "visas" straight to the "Crystal City Hotel"....


http://theguardian.com/world/2014/de...ion-costa-rica

[andymarksman]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Wilson suspended immigration from all Asian nations except Japan and the Philippines in 1917....

That's a flat out lie, Little Hans. Wilson was opposed to that racist bill, but his veto was overridden by the Republican-controlled Congress.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by andymarksman

That's a flat out lie, Little Hans. Wilson was opposed to that racist bill, but his veto was overridden by the Republican-controlled Congress.

Andrew, how long have you been Marks MAN?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by andymarksman

Where is that such "alleged order," Little Hans? I don't think FDR was that dumb to issue such orders ....

... hate to break bad news to you, but .....


... "Where is that" ... and

... "I don't think" ...

are NOT FACTS to support any representation made by you.

It's really not helpful to your position to attempt to verbally rewrite and "redefine" documents while verbally "rewriting" history in order to appear correct. The President has the authority to determine immigration policy (you weren't whining with Obaminable said was OK ... so Trump is saying "slow down" things by a delay for 90-120 days) ... you call it "banning" ... but when you talk about Obaminable you call it a "pause"!

You are now editorializing with your word choices.

But all this whining, crying, screaming hysteria ignores one FACT!

A noncitizen does not have a RIGHT to come into this country, and even the person claiming to be a citizen (or claiming to have a "green card" or other document authorizing them TO BE IN THE U.S.) can be DETAINED at a port of entry to verify that person is IN FACT the person represented in the papers and the papers are "in order" and "legitimate"!

As a self-prclaimed "WORLD TRAVELER" you know better and if you say you have never been "DETAINED" when entering another country (or traveling in another country) then you are NOT a "WORLD TRAVELER" and/or you are simply lying!