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[lustylad]

Originally Posted by Asfaloth54

The facts show either your ignorance or your bias or both.

The American Institute of Philanthropy gives the Clinton Foundation an 'A' grade, as a full 89% of their money actually goes to the charities involved, including Haiti....

If you can show us where the AIP above would be biased in its data, please do so....

Nice try, ass-sloth. We already had this discussion. The gold standard for evaluating charities is Charity Navigator, not AIP. Charity Navigator put the Clinton Foundation on their watch list for 9 months, only removing it after Clinton's goons threatened and berated them. Charity Navigator still won't rate the Clinton Foundation - and that's a big red flag for everyone to see!

Take the time to look at the numbers stuffed into that "89% of their money" and you can see the Clinton Foundation is primarily a slush fund and make-work agency for Clinton-bots who dabble in charitable projects as cover:

http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1058550016&postcount=23

The Haiti earthquake figures cited by johnjay may be exaggerated, but no one should doubt that the Clintons took a huge SKIM off the $2 billion in relief monies and steered most of the funds that were actually spent on recovery to corrupt crony contractors and loyal DNC lapdogs and bundlers (rather than low bidders).

[DSK]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Nice try, ass-sloth. We already had this discussion. The gold standard for evaluating charities is Charity Navigator, not AIP. Charity Navigator put the Clinton Foundation on their watch list for 9 months, only removing it after Clinton's goons threatened and berated them. Charity Navigator still won't rate the Clinton Foundation - and that's a big red flag for everyone to see!

Take the time to look at the numbers stuffed into that "89% of their money" and you can see the Clinton Foundation is primarily a slush fund and make-work agency for Clinton-bots who dabble in charitable projects as cover:

http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1058550016&postcount=23

The Haiti earthquake figures cited by johnjay may be exaggerated, but no one should doubt that the Clintons took a huge SKIM off the $2 billion in relief monies and steered most of the funds that were actually spent on recovery to corrupt crony contractors and loyal DNC lapdogs and bundlers (rather than low bidders).

I think it is time to eliminate 501c3!!

[Asfaloth54]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

no

he is correct

what is true, and admitted by Clinton sycophants and surrogates, is that the Clinton foundation doesn't pay out funds to 501 (c) 3 charities ,educational or religious groups, as most all do, to meet their philanthropic exempt purpose

a private foundation is required to contribute annually a minimum of 5% of its net worth to its exempt purpose. Almost every private foundation does this by making grants to charities, but not the Clinton foundation

private foundations must get a copy of the 501 (c)3 exempt letter the IRS issues from those to whom they make grants

the clinton foundation claims they meet the requirement to contribute by hiring people - no 501 (c) 3 letter needed- ha ha we are so smart

they have, supposedly, organized a private foundation along the lines of a straight 501 (c) 3 charity. in essence they claim they are their own charity and whatever they do or whoever they pay is charity, a claim supported, ostensibly, by their travels and meetings

a private foundation is allowed its own trustees and directors. it normally does not elicit contributions from the general public. most all private foundations are grant making, that is, granting funds directly to charities. but not the clinton foundation.

a private foundation makes an allocation of salaries, expenses, travel etc between general and administrative purposes and fund raising purposes and expenditures for its exempt purpose (the 5% requirement)

the Clinton foundation largely claims an allocation of the salaries and travel for all their hanger-ons and Chelsea and bill's gallivanting to meet this 5% requirement

so all these clinton global initiative meetings and most likely a large chunk of Chelsea's salary and other's pay, while doing the Clinton's bidding etc count as meeting their exempt purpose

and who among us believes the IRS would ever properly police the Clintons?

its a slush fund guaranteeing Clinton family members a paycheck into the future and securing sycophants and its a way of having your cake and eating it too

Cool story, but you screwed it up from the jump. The CF is a public charity, not a private one - so your screed is irrelevant and frankly dishonest. You should be embarrassed to be repeating these lies. Are you?

http://correctrecord.org/dismissing-...smears-abroad/

There's my evidence from the AIP. Where is yours?

[Asfaloth54]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Nice try, ass-sloth. We already had this discussion. The gold standard for evaluating charities is Charity Navigator, not AIP. Charity Navigator put the Clinton Foundation on their watch list for 9 months, only removing it after Clinton's goons threatened and berated them. Charity Navigator still won't rate the Clinton Foundation - and that's a big red flag for everyone to see!

Take the time to look at the numbers stuffed into that "89% of their money" and you can see the Clinton Foundation is primarily a slush fund and make-work agency for Clinton-bots who dabble in charitable projects as cover:

http://eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1058550016&postcount=23

The Haiti earthquake figures cited by johnjay may be exaggerated, but no one should doubt that the Clintons took a huge SKIM off the $2 billion in relief monies and steered most of the funds that were actually spent on recovery to corrupt crony contractors and loyal DNC lapdogs and bundlers (rather than low bidders).

First of all - seriously? 'Ass-loth'?? Are you 6 years old? Do you type with booger-encrusted fingers? What kind of grown ass man has to resort to such vacuous ad hominem fallacies? Adults attack arguments, not the man.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...ry&orgid=16680

Yeah, that's Charity Navigator rating the CF at 94.74.

So....were you ignorant here, or just lying?

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Asfaloth54

Cool story, but you screwed it up from the jump. The CF is a public charity, not a private one - so your screed is irrelevant and frankly dishonest. You should be embarrassed to be repeating these lies. Are you?

http://correctrecord.org/dismissing-...smears-abroad/

There's my evidence from the AIP. Where is yours?

if they aren't a private foundation but chose to act as a charity, which is its close approximate then...

the jist of what they are doing remains as I described and my suppositions remain in firm foundation

[Asfaloth54]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

if they aren't a private foundation

the jist of what they are doing remains as I described and my suppositions remain in firm foundation

No sir, your foundation is crumbling. As noted in the citation, Public and Private charities operate under significantly different rules. Public charities like the Clintons request donations directly - and then forward them directly to the Charity. They do not create or operate endowments that only serve to take a bigger piece of the donations and keep them away from those they are meant to serve.

I suppose that's why both the AIP and Charity Navigator give them such glowing ratings.

Can you provide a valid reason why anyone should ignore those 2 non-partisan watchdog agencies in favor of your completely unsupported view?

And seriously, how can you justify posting about private charities without even knowing that the CF is not?? Is objectivity and honesty not a part of your value system?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Asfaloth54

Cool story, but you screwed it up from the jump. The CF is a public charity, not a private one - so your screed is irrelevant and frankly dishonest. You should be embarrassed to be repeating these lies. Are you?

http://correctrecord.org/dismissing-...smears-abroad/

There's my evidence from the AIP. Where is yours?

You'd be the one propagating lies, ass-fellatio, because your so-called "evidence" is "manufactured" by "Correct the Record" which is a major propaganda branch of the hildebeest political machine, ass-fellatio.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Asfaloth54

No sir, your foundation is crumbling. As noted in the citation, Public and Private charities operate under significantly different rules. Public charities like the Clintons request donations directly - and then forward them directly to the Charity. They do not create or operate endowments that only serve to take a bigger piece of the donations and keep them away from those they are meant to serve.

I suppose that's why both the AIP and Charity Navigator give them such glowing ratings.

Can you provide a valid reason why anyone should ignore those 2 non-partisan watchdog agencies in favor of your completely unsupported view?

And seriously, how can you justify posting about private charities without even knowing that the CF is not?? Is objectivity and honesty not a part of your value system?

honesty is my hallmark
its right up there with my good looks, savoir faire, raconteurship, and being nice to people

so is being able to smell a rat

once a rat, always a rat, and the Clinton's are the biggest rats around

they are notorious for being rats

so they use foundation in the name but they aren't a foundation ..ok, they file a 990 instead of a 990-PF...ok, but the substance is the same, they still charge off all these salaries and travel as incurred for their exempt purpose

look up Charles Ortel
http://www.charlesortel.com/

he's a financial analyst who has a series of reports on the Clinton foundation

he calls it false philanthropy

and has a done a review of and made a list of intentionally false representations in Clinton Foundation public filings and so much more

at my level, with my understanding based on reviewing, and discussing with people who prepare these things, and signing these types of reports, granted, without personally knowing the exact details.....

but when you combine the type of people they are with the corruption that got them the money and public knowledge of some of their more revealing operations and the analysis done by others, I am aware enough to realize how they operate, which is that they operate this "charity" for themselves

to allow yourself to think otherwise is a willful suspension of every bit of wariness with which we were endowed to aid us in our walk in this world

[Yssup Rider]

This discussion is typical of this campaign season in ECCIE. One poster backs up his claims with facts and credible citation and the other guy calls him a faggot and quotes "uncle bubba's basement blog."

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

This is why the history books will likely skip over anything in this election other than the fact that America was one of the last major Western powers to elect a woman to lead it.

[Asfaloth54]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

honesty is my hallmark
its right up there with my good looks, savoir faire, raconteurship, and being nice to people

so is being able to smell a rat

once a rat, always a rat, and the Clinton's are the biggest rats around

they are notorious for being rats

so they use foundation in the name but they aren't a foundation ..ok, they file a 990 instead of a 990-PF...ok, but the substance is the same, they still charge off all these salaries and travel as incurred for their exempt purpose

look up Charles Ortel
http://www.charlesortel.com/

he's a financial analyst who has a series of reports on the Clinton foundation

he calls it false philanthropy

and has a done a review of and made a list of intentionally false representations in Clinton Foundation public filings and so much more

at my level, with my understanding based on reviewing, and discussing with people who prepare these things, and signing these types of reports, granted, without personally knowing the exact details.....

but when you combine the type of people they are with the corruption that got them the money and public knowledge of some of their more revealing operations and the analysis done by others, I am aware enough to realize how they operate, which is that they operate this "charity" for themselves

to allow yourself to think otherwise is a willful suspension of every bit of wariness with which we were endowed to aid us in our walk in this world

So. in other words, you are unable to rebut the reports from either the AIP or Charity Navigator, so you now wish to ignore how their data utterly refutes your argument- and want to move the goalposts to some blogger whose biased opinion you value.

So much for honest debate.

[Asfaloth54]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You'd be the one propagating lies, ass-fellatio, because your so-called "evidence" is "manufactured" by "Correct the Record" which is a major propaganda branch of the hildebeest political machine, ass-fellatio.

So, both AIP and Charity Navigator - the proclaimed 'Gold Standard' of charity analysis - are both lying on their websites when they laud the CF for their good works?

Can you provide any credible source showing that these 2 non-partisan organizations are lying? Or are you too deep into your fantasy of tossing my salad?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Asfaloth54

So, both AIP and Charity Navigator - the proclaimed 'Gold Standard' of charity analysis - are both lying on their websites when they laud the CF for their good works?

Can you provide any credible source showing that these 2 non-partisan organizations are lying? Or are you too deep into your fantasy of tossing my salad?

"Correct the Record" -- which you cited -- is a propaganda wing of the hildebeest political machine, you stupid and misguided lib-reatarded miscreant.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Greatest thread comments ever... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...l-addre?page=1

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

"Correct the Record" -- which you cited -- is a propaganda wing of the hildebeest political machine, you stupid and misguided lib-reatarded miscreant.

TRANSLATED : I got nothing, no facts, just insults.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

FTFY, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.