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			When all else fails simply honestly look at the facts. You're most likely an excellent provider with excellent skills but you are an unknown in Austin. 
 
Reviews may or may not be accurate however a pic is worth a thousand words.  
 
Horny men are visual and when you enter a new market at top dollar you had better be able to compete body wise with the other young better known $300 providers. 
 
Most new providers enter the scene with a more competitive rate until they build a solid Austin rep. 
 
Some visiting young firm hot bods with amazing tits and beautiful face pics are an exception to that rule but as I said horny men are visual. 
 
I have to go with buyers remorse as well. While Cooper could have offered a far kinder more supportive response he was being honest. 
 
When almost every single customer backs out obviously there's far more going on than mere coincidence. Facts are facts. Don't blame the consumer base for switching and going elsewhere. Blame the marketing. 
 
One other more mature provider visiting from California had a similar experience a year ago. After being royally reamed by the members for bitching about NSNC in coed she took their advice, dropped her rates and instantly got booked up. She returned home a happy camper. She even thanked the crude members for helping her out. 
 
If you don't want to try making your rates more competitive while still here just to see if that helps then we wish you a safe  journey home in all this coming rain.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-08-2016, 08:43 AM
			
			
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			I think her price point at the hhr is right on, $150 is what I look for and I don't need a Hr to get what I want. I don't care about the $300 Hr as I don't do hrs anymore.  
 
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			03-08-2016, 08:53 AM
			
			
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				I think her price point at the hhr is right on, $150 is what I look for and I don't need a Hr to get what I want. I don't care about the $300 Hr as I don't do hrs anymore.  
 
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You're probably correct about the half hour pricing but a product is only worth what consumers will pay for it.  
Follow your gut feeling, book her for 1/2 hr today and help her out with a local review. Walk the walk rather than talk the talk.
 
She does have a nice ass for Dato so go ahead and give her a licking so she can keep on ticking. Yes you can use that in your sig line   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-08-2016, 10:06 AM
			
			
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				You're probably correct about the half hour pricing but a product is only worth what consumers will pay for it.  
Follow your gut feeling, book her for 1/2 hr today and help her out with a local review. Walk the walk rather than talk the talk.
 
She does have a nice ass for Dato so go ahead and give her a licking so she can keep on ticking. Yes you can use that in your sig line    
			
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I would but she's going home today, I will next time she cums to town    
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			03-08-2016, 01:10 PM
			
			
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			"Well Cooper.. According to her latest review. 
 
"Physical Description: Perky tits, juicy booty, curvy, decent height for a  girl, as depicted in her showcase. Bare with great hygiene." 
 
If he wrote the review than why does everyone of the reviews mention hygiene? I'd only mention that if it was less than stellar. 
 
"Those are good qualities and everyone of her reviews are all YES". 
 
A review from several days earlier and $100 less reads like a self promotional ad: 
Beautiful girl, gorgeous face, great smile, natural B cups (responsive  & tickly), two small tats on the back, great personality, very fine  skin, GREAT ass, great hygiene. flat stomach, 5'6", 130 lbs. 
 
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( and saggy tits)" 
 
But she sports a price tag of $300, NCNS mongers than complains, has saggy tits that get perky when it looks like she wrote the review. Yes the ass looks good but I am not into "thunder thighs" droopy tits and a tummy that was mentioned in a review as being misrepresented in her photos. As I said she is charging "A" list prices with a body on a 35 YO. 
 
She posted that she didn't understand why no business and I gave her some straight forward answers. 
 
Drop the price or get to the gym and get some work done if you want business where there are plenty of $300 shopping opportunity's  everyday in Austin. 
 
***  I do agree that the $150 is a decent but nothing special rate when considering the above negatives.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-08-2016, 01:24 PM
			
			
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			First she says she is worth $300 but did the dead for less to get reviews.... and tells you not to attempt to negotiate and then she drops prices like a prom dress. From deal with my $300 rate to Alex, I'll take SNATCH for $200 
She doesn't do 1/2 hours but then she does post a rate in profile.  I prefer multi hour dates but I do have one hour appointments available  for those short on time. Please do not try to negotiate my donation. I  am an upscale companion with friendly reliable service 
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Seems to be a typical stripper whos stripping days were over at 25 who moved to the hobby and wants to play lets make a deal, NCNS mongers then complains.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-08-2016, 05:41 PM
			
			
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				First she says she is worth $300 but did the dead for less to get reviews.... .[/COLOR][/B] 
			
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I thinking the "dead" should be either a lot cheaper, or a lot higher, depending on your fetish.. but I'd bet there's no BNG's.. lol  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-08-2016, 10:48 PM
			
			
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				First she says she is worth $300 but did the dead for less to get reviews.... and tells you not to attempt to negotiate and then she drops prices like a prom dress. From deal with my $300 rate to Alex, I'll take SNATCH for $200 
She doesn't do 1/2 hours but then she does post a rate in profile.  I prefer multi hour dates but I do have one hour appointments available  for those short on time. Please do not try to negotiate my donation. I  am an upscale companion with friendly reliable service 
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			03-09-2016, 01:33 AM
			
			
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			Real Talk... NCNS is like BackPage type shit. I came here to get away from that. I hope it didn't follow my ass here...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2016, 11:13 AM
			
			
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			FFS man just because a woman offers herself in a "product-like" way doesn't mean she's a thing.  Just say "I don't find her attractive and I'm not sure she can command $300".  Beyond that is just being a dick to another person for no benefit to anyone.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-09-2016, 12:14 PM
			
			
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				FFS man just because a woman offers herself in a "product-like" way doesn't mean she's a thing.  Just say "I don't find her attractive and I'm not sure she can command $300".  Beyond that is just being a dick to another person for no benefit to anyone. 
			
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He kinda did at first. And she responded by saying he was rude. While I may not have worded it as defiantly as he did I will say that my first thought when looking at her pictures and price point was that I can do a lot better for a lot less. But I am not trying to neg on her. Honestly I have respect because she puts it all out there... A standing up picture with out these bullshit extreme angles only showing her ass or breasts. She advertises what she is. But there are a lot of reasons the 300 seems steep.
 
Any 40+ female can have great IOP and chatting skills and the average over the hill veteran that frequents these boards will clammor to the review sections to sing her praises and rave about her responsive nipples, good body for her age, well manicured feet, or other random physical traits that deters you from the fact that she's not actually a hard body,or fit at all. And sadly the ones that don't see her again don't post reviews because they are either too nice or don't want to deal with the WK brigading that happens when a no review is post.
 
But for me, 300+ needs "more" than menu and attitude, she needs to take care of herself and be more than just a smile and a hole to put it in. And I assume that most people share that thought process as I see it mimicked a lot on these forums. Just probably not as boisterously as cooper put it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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Any 40+ female can have great IOP and chatting skills and the average over the hill veteran that frequents these boards will clammor to the review sections to sing her praises and rave about her responsive nipples, good body for her age, well manicured feet, or other random physical traits that deters you from the fact that she's not actually a hard body,or fit at all. And sadly the ones that don't see her again don't post reviews because they are either too nice or don't want to deal with the WK brigading that happens when a no review is post. 
			
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Most of the 40+ providers that I see do not charge more than 200/hr and the service, BCD and TCB, is superb.  Many ladies in the hobby don't really understand themselves and the business until they have experience.  Many folks may wish to pay 300/hr to teach and mentor a young spinner, but I will decline until she matures into a proven provider.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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