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02-22-2016, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by eatfibo
If you can lump all Muslims together, am I allowed to lump all Abrahamic religions together? Personally, I see shitheads from all of these religions doing terrible things in the name of their god.
So why stop with Muslims? I say we treat them all like cancer to totally deal with the problem of religious fanaticism.
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Well, gee, those Baptists blowing up those Methodists are creating quite a problem here in Amerika, aren't they, EatFido?
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02-22-2016, 10:31 AM
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Well, gee, those Baptists blowing up those Methodists are creating quite a problem here in Amerika, aren't they, EatFido?
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And the peaceful Muslims aren't blowing anyone up either. Why are you lumping them in with the fanatics?
I think you are missing my point. I'm just expanding the logic used earlier - All of Islam is a problem because of some Islamic fanatics - to all religions - All Abrahamic religions are a problem because some who agree with those beliefs are fanatics.
Why does it work for the above point, but not mine?
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02-22-2016, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DSK
Well, gee, those Baptists blowing up those Methodists are creating quite a problem here in Amerika, aren't they, EatFido?
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Nice come back!!! LMAO!
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02-22-2016, 02:25 PM
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The reasons Stephen Coughlin got fired... http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/01/th...staff-pentagon
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The Implications of the Dismissal of Stephen Coughlin, Joint Staff, Pentagon
JANUARY 12, 2008 8:01 AM BY ROBERT SPENCER
Stephen Coughlin Update. Here is an excellent summary piece on Coughlin’s firing, its implications, and what must be done next.
Objective: The objective of this paper is to clarify the incidents surrounding the firing of Mr. Coughlin, and enumerate the implications of this event to U.S. National Security and the GWOT (Global War on Terror).
Background: Mr. Stephen Coughlin works as a contractor on the Joint Staff, J-2 (Intelligence) for the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon. The Joint Staff specifically requested him because of his knowledge of Islamic Doctrine as it applies to “Jihad” and the Strategic objectives of our enemy. He is, by many accounts, the leading expert on Islamic Doctrinal drivers of Jihad within the U.S. Government, and likely, in the United States. His thesis, “To Our Great Detriment: Ignoring What Extremists Say About Jihad,” was recently accepted by the National Defense Intelligence College, and deals specifically with Islamic Doctrine dealing with doctrinal drivers of jihad, and the failure of the United States leadership to learn and understand this doctrine. He has a background in Law and international business. Mr. Coughlin is also a Major in the U.S. Army Reserves, and was activated after 9/11 to serve as a Strategic Targeting Officer for the U.S. forces. He has taught, lectured, and briefed senior members of DoD, members of Congress, senior U.S. Government officials, and many law enforcement and intelligence officers in the United States. He is a regular briefer at the Information/Operations course at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and the Joint Forces Staff College. He has briefed at the Navy War College and the Marine Corps War College, and recently briefed the General Officers of I MEF, United States Marine Corps.
Event: Via a campaign undertaken by Hesham Islam, the senior advisor for International Affairs to Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England, on Thursday, January 3, 2008 Mr. Coughlin was told by his employers that his contract would not be renewed due to the fact his message, and therefore he himself, had become too “politically hot.” In a meeting between Mr. Coughlin and a member of Mr. England’s staff, at which Hesham Islam unexpectedly attended, Mr. Islam asked Mr. Coughlin to “soften his message” regarding Islamic Doctrine. Mr. Coughlin refused. Islam was heard referring to Coughlin as a “Christian zealot with a poison pen.” Despite the fact that no one in his chain of command has disputed the veracity, accuracy, and balance for his thesis, lectures, or briefings, Coughlin’s employment is being terminated for speaking the truth to the Department of Defense.
Analysis: This event on its own reveals that a senior U.S. advisor is being removed from his direct and critical role in the current war in which we are engaged solely because his message was defined as “extreme” by an advisor who caters to Islamist organizations in the U.S., not because it was factually incorrect. This alone seems significantly problematic given the current war in which we are engaged. Additionally, some of the details suggest Mr. Coughlin’s civil rights, to include his First and Forth Amendment rights, as well as federal law, may have been violated, which suggests an inquiry is required. The effort to silence Mr. Coughlin came from a senior advisor to a senior U.S. official under official cover — a violation of law. Most disturbing is that Mr. Islam is associated with groups and organizations which have been designated as Muslim Brotherhood organizations within the United States. If this is in fact true, the implications are devastating.
Implications: If it is determined that Mr. Islam (whose clearances to be handling such high level issues are unsubstantiated) was acting directly or indirectly on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood or any other non-state sponsor or nation, it would indicate a direct effort to thwart the U.S. effort in fighting the war in which we are engaged by an outside entity. This is, therefore, a penetration of our government at the most senior levels. In this case we are obligated to undertake actions to determine, who is Mr. Islam, why was he hired, what are his true intentions, and are there others in our government at this level who have penetrated other U.S. government agencies.
Actions: It is recommended that the following actions be taken immediately:
1) It is imperative that an investigation be open to determine the facts of this matter. If the investigation determines the facts of the matter to be true, provide the extent of the penetration within DoD, an assessment of the damage, potential violations of federal law, and recommended changes to Department policy and procedures to prevent a recurrence.
2) Conduct closed Congressional Hearings to provide oversight of Federal Departments and Agencies, specifically DoD, DNI, FBI, CIA and DHS to determine if there has been (1) a significant penetration of US Government Departments and/or Agencies by non-state actors hostile to the United States, and (2) the ability and structure of the U.S. counterintelligence efforts to identify and prevent penetration by subversive movements such as the Muslim Brotherhood.
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02-22-2016, 04:29 PM
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What most people don't realize is, the Muslims that are not blowing up people and demanding that all infidels convert or die are NOT the real Muslims.
The real Muslims are the ones following the teachings of their genocidal, pedophilic, megalomaniac prophet Muhammad.
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02-22-2016, 10:27 PM
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Juvenile, ignorant fuck.
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Doesn't AssupTrump sound like the Donald? Always calling names and never offering anything of substance? AssupTrump. Fitting.
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02-23-2016, 10:13 AM
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For a change, SLOBBRIN is reporting from a Trumped up source.
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02-23-2016, 10:26 AM
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"Muslim Opinion Polls:
A Tiny Minority of Extremists?
Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be
unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is their destination
Quran 9:73
Have you heard that Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone.
Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.
In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined.
The following polls convey what Muslims say are their attitudes toward terrorism, al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the 9/11 attacks, violence in defense of Islam, Sharia, honor killings, and matters concerning assimilation in Western society. The results are all the more astonishing because most of the polls were conducted by organizations with an obvious interest in "discovering" agreeable statistics that downplay any cause for concern"
the polls are listed here as is the above:
http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/...ion-polls.aspx
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02-23-2016, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by eatfibo
And the peaceful Muslims aren't blowing anyone up either. Why are you lumping them in with the fanatics?
I think you are missing my point. I'm just expanding the logic used earlier - All of Islam is a problem because of some Islamic fanatics - to all religions - All Abrahamic religions are a problem because some who agree with those beliefs are fanatics.
Why does it work for the above point, but not mine?
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We sure did a job on those "peaceful" Germans during World War II. You know, the Germans who didn't vote for Hitler or the Nazi party but stood by along the parade route cheering their troops on. The vast majority of Muslims support the objective of one world government under Islam but get kind of weak on how. There is only one way at the moment
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02-23-2016, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
The vast majority of Muslims support the objective of one world government under Islam
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Citation, please.
Also, this doesn't address my question at all. All Abrahamic religions have their fanatics, so why not lump all of them together? Why just punish all Muslims for the actions of a few, but not punish all people of Abrahamic faiths for the actions of a few? It's the same exact logic.
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02-23-2016, 01:55 PM
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Don't hold your breath eatfibo, JDrunk doesn't truck with facts...
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02-23-2016, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by eatfibo
Citation, please.
so why not lump all of them together? .
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I do. I make no distinction in anybody that kills, imprisons, or in any way does harm to another individule in the name of their "God".
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02-23-2016, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackie S
I do. I make no distinction in anybody that kills, imprisons, or in any way does harm to another individule in the name of their "God".
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So, extrapolating from the original post, you consider all Abrahamic religions "a cancer?" Or do you agree with me that we should be doing the sensible thing of focusing on fanatics, rather than religions?
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02-23-2016, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by eatfibo
I think you are missing my point.
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Actually "the point" is easy to spot.
Of what religious persuasion are the Federal and local LE who investigate the alleged Christian bombings of other Christians?
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02-23-2016, 04:26 PM
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are you sure you arent WTF's dumber brother?
eatfibo
you don't have a point here..you have feelings
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