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I kind of figured this thread would get him banned. he just kept up and always wanted to take it too far. 
  
kat vondee sorry he was such a prick to you but it was fun fucking with him while it lasted.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-14-2015, 09:20 PM
			
			
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			Happy day after your Birthday AY 
And yes it was worth it. 
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			12-14-2015, 10:11 PM
			
			
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			I had my issues with LC but it really doesn't matter now because all I really want right now is Kat and Gemma in the same room!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2015, 08:07 AM
			
			
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			Wow!  
It is difficult to follow this thread.  
Truth of what?  
That is a business? That people are using others for the own benefit? Are all businesses the same?  
Slavery is wrong. Are they forced to work like that? As agency are even worse than a pimp? As business point, I believe LC and Ellie have been promoting very well. Now if they are not happy with their life and want to get out... They have to reach people who can help them? I think, Kat, you should explain what benefits you got to be independent? How easy or difficult it was? In order to help others... otherwise in my eyes, there is no truth.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2015, 09:28 AM
			
			
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				How do you know a provider is lying?  Her lips are moving.  X + provider = liar   substitute any name the result is the same 
			
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Though he is banned now, this was the logic he continually used towards Kat.  Yet if this is true then that makes any info fed to him by LC and EA the same unless he was AY.  
 
If he was AY then there are three sides to a story.  Kat's side, AY and LC and EA's side, and the truth that lies somewhere between.
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2015, 09:42 AM
			
			
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			It's really cute how LC and EA log into their Eccie account at the same time each day. They must be real close friends. Maybe they only have one computer between them. You would think that the kind of money they're making they could each afford a laptop.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2015, 10:35 AM
			
			
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			Goddamm, I take a couple weeks off to go hunting and...... 
  
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			12-15-2015, 11:11 AM
			
			
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			Lol he got banned ...Now that's funny...smfh
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2015, 11:14 AM
			
			
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				Wow!  
It is difficult to follow this thread.  
Truth of what?  
That is a business? That people are using others for the own benefit? Are all businesses the same?  
Slavery is wrong. Are they forced to work like that? As agency are even worse than a pimp? As business point, I believe LC and Ellie have been promoting very well. Now if they are not happy with their life and want to get out... They have to reach people who can help them? I think, Kat, you should explain what benefits you got to be independent? How easy or difficult it was? In order to help others... otherwise in my eyes, there is no truth. 
			
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It was easy to leave the situation, but considering I have a kid to provide for & keep a roof over her head I stayed way longer than I wanted to. When you have someone who controls every aspect of your business, there's not much you can do. Plus, they have every cent you make & you have no money to leave, I basically was trapped. The # that was used for me was a text app used on AY's phone. In the past anyone who's set a meeting with me, notices they weren't able to call me. Yes LC & EA have their own business phone & don't have as much control over them as I did, but they don't control their online sites or their emails. I know this first hand. Their pimp does a daily collection of their money. He is abusive as well. Even though from the looks of it she's left the biz, TL was a good source to let you know the situation they have as well. She left with nothing but the outfits that were bought for her shoots. So no, its not easy to leave someone who has all the money you make, has control over everything & blackmails you if you want to leave. Its mental & physical control. When I left, I left with literally almost nothing. Considering I worked for their pimp almost 4 years. But I'm not the type to allow my world to crash around me or not be able to provide for my child. I had a car with gas in it, so I went & got 2 jobs & enrolled in school. I do believe these women stay with him for the same reason I did for a while, for the sense of protection. Its scary being an independent provider. There's a lot to fear, but no doubt in my mind I do believe they'd like to have their own $ & see the benefits of their work, but instead they are funding AY to live a lavish life. Another benefit why it was kind of easier for me to leave is I live 3 hrs from KC. AY literally lives 10 mins from them. So if they even made a slight hint they were trying to leave, he could hunt then down. So basically their only options are to either leave AY & work for another pimp, or leave him with absolutely nothing & have to gain access of their sites again by making a new email & new phone #. Their #'s are shared on the same phone plan as AY, if they were independent, he would've cut their phones off. Just like he did Taylor.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2015, 11:21 AM
			
			
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			I am continuously amused at comments folks make. 
Especially those that are mostly inactive. 
Wherein folks say things that result in their ending up on a gals, or guys, dns list. 
 
Zeejoe you did miss the comment, posted eksewhere, of renewal of dnr lists
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2015, 01:14 PM
			
			
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				Wow!  
It is difficult to follow this thread.  
Truth of what?  
That is a business? That people are using others for the own benefit? Are all businesses the same?  
Slavery is wrong. Are they forced to work like that? As agency are even worse than a pimp? As business point, I believe LC and Ellie have been promoting very well. Now if they are not happy with their life and want to get out... They have to reach people who can help them? I think, Kat, you should explain what benefits you got to be independent? How easy or difficult it was? In order to help others... otherwise in my eyes, there is no truth. 
			
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Difficult to follow??.... HELLO MCFLY..
Whoops..wait  minute..oh yeah. NOW I understand your uninformed ramble.
 http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1545828
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			12-15-2015, 02:11 PM
			
			
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			12-15-2015, 03:09 PM
			
			
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			The only other thing I have to add to this truth thread is... I'm a firm believer in women empowering women. Supporting pimps and hoes with pimps is not something I will ever do and I would hope no other woman does either. 
 
 And Sins, I understand your opinion but unless someone has ever experienced mind control, brainwashing, physical and emotional abuse...they will never fully understand the impact these fuckers have on a girl. Especially a broken girl, they're the most preyed upon. However, kat is doing exactly what other girls in her situation have done. Being used, controlled, beat and left with nothing will forever be a part of any victims life and it's not easily forgotten nor dealt with. 9 years later and I still have difficult days because of my involvement with a monster. There are days I want to do bad things to everyone that ever did anything to me, but I deal with it and reach out for positive energy so I can get through that day. Maybe this is Kats way of dealing with it while trying to move forward from it.  
 
I will forever empower other women, and I hope all women understand the importance of it....even ea and lc. They will, one day, wake up. I only hope they make it that far in their journey.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-15-2015, 03:26 PM
			
			
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			Well said Gemma 
Kat your last post said it all ! Live long and prosper, you have earned a shot at a good future.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2015, 12:01 AM
			
			
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				What is your point? Why do you have the need to try to be funny behind a screen? I think I asked a question and Kat responded very well.     
			
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Sarcasm aside and it was probably too snarky..but I reacted like I did because I thought your post was slanted and after all, you did see MS Cash. It was like you were defending LC/Ellie and trying to absolve or justify the pimp reference. 
Thing is, it's your coin and you can spend it where you want and AY will certainly carry on. After all, he's good at it and nothing said here will change anything. If you prefer to see someone who counts and checks for watermarks before.. it's your coin.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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