What's Going On In San Bernardino??

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

You fucking moron. How many muslims do you think we employ in counterterrorism efforts? 5? Get a clue, dumbass. Do you understand that you are a moron? Moderate muslims are ALREADY helping us. They would like to continue to help us, but we have fucking dumbasses like YOU out there who are calling for their heads or idiots like Trump who don't even want to let them in the country. You and your ilk are playing right into ISIS' hands and you are too stupid to even realize it. They want you to vilify muslims. They eat that shit up. It makes recruiting easier than ever for them.

What "played right into ISIS' hands" and made "recruiting easier than ever for them" was Odumbo's complete 2011 pullout from Iraq. The lights went out on our counter-terrorism and intel-gathering abilities. We abandoned all those moderate Sunnis who led the Arab Awakening in Anbar Province and helped us win the surge. THOSE are the muslims we employed in counter-terrorism. Odumbo's abrupt departure made it easier for ISIS to come in and assassinate tribal leaders and other Sunni moderates. The message was simple - if you cooperate with the US, you'll wind up dead.

So if Odumbo is now having trouble attracting new muslims to our side, he should blame himself. Anyone tempted to help us must pause and ask - how do I know I won't wind up dead, like my brother or my cousin or my tribal elders did? Why should I cast my fate with Obama when he keeps promising weapons that never come?

That's the reality. If you want to hurt ISIS' recruiting then you have to change the facts on the ground over there. Only a complete partisan moron like you would argue that what some US political candidate says is a big recruiting tool for them. It's not. Odumbo made up this false talking point to deflect from his own pathetic inaction and lack of any coherent strategy to defeat the bad guys.

By embracing Odumbo's lies, you're the fucking dumbass who is playing into ISIS' hands and being too stupid to realize it.
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[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by lustylad

What "played right into ISIS' hands" and made "recruiting easier than ever for them" was Odumbo's complete 2011 pullout from Iraq. The lights went out on our counter-terrorism and intel-gathering abilities. We abandoned all those moderate Sunnis who led the Arab Awakening in Anbar Province and helped us win the surge. THOSE are the muslims we employed in counter-terrorism. Odumbo's abrupt departure made it easier for ISIS to come in and assassinate tribal leaders and other Sunni moderates. The message was simple - if you cooperate with the US, you'll wind up dead.

So if Odumbo is now having trouble attracting new muslims to our side, he should blame himself. Anyone tempted to help us must pause and ask - how do I know I won't wind up dead, like my brother or my cousin or my tribal elders did? Why should I cast my fate with Obama when he keeps promising weapons that never come?

That's the reality. If you want to hurt ISIS' recruiting then you have to change the facts on the ground over there. Only a complete partisan moron like you would argue that what some US political candidate says is a big recruiting tool for them. It's not. Odumbo made up this false talking point to deflect from his own pathetic inaction and lack of any coherent strategy to defeat the bad guys.

By embracing Odumbo's lies, you're the fucking dumbass who is playing into ISIS' hands and being too stupid to realize it.
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If you don't think what trump said hurts us, you're fucking dumber than I thought. And don't forget, Bush started the pullout. It wasn't abrupt. And I'm talking about Muslims working in DC and Virginia, you idiot. Not the actual fighters in the field. Death is a chance they take, regardless of who is president

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

If you don't think what trump said hurts us, ....

Being prevented from saying it is what "hurts us"!

[Budman]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

You fucking moron. How many muslims do you think we employ in counterterrorism efforts? 5? Get a clue, dumbass. Do you understand that you are a moron? Moderate muslims are ALREADY helping us. They would like to continue to help us, but we have fucking dumbasses like YOU out there who are calling for their heads or idiots like Trump who don't even want to let them in the country. You and your ilk are playing right into ISIS' hands and you are too stupid to even realize it. They want you to vilify muslims. They eat that shit up. It makes recruiting easier than ever for them.

Originally Posted by WombRaider

If you don't think what trump said hurts us, you're fucking dumber than I thought. And don't forget, Bush started the pullout. It wasn't abrupt. And I'm talking about Muslims working in DC and Virginia, you idiot. Not the actual fighters in the field. Death is a chance they take, regardless of who is president

Listen WR, if you're not a muslim or a terrorist then you can't have an opinion on what they think or may do. You're not a muslim so you need to shut the fuck up. The only thing you can talk about is sucking dicks and getting fucked in the ass. Remember you are the one that said if you're not X then you can't talk about it. So you need to stick to what you know, dick sucking and ass fucking. I suppose you can include glory hole management. Other than that STFU.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

If you don't think what trump said hurts us, you're fucking dumber than I thought. And don't forget, Bush started the pullout. It wasn't abrupt. And I'm talking about Muslims working in DC and Virginia, you idiot. Not the actual fighters in the field. Death is a chance they take, regardless of who is president

Muslims in this country can see that every other Republican candidate has repudiated Trump's remarks about a blanket ban against them. We just had 14 Americans killed in San Bernardino by ISLAMIC TERRORISTS - if I was muslim, I would be amazed there isn't MORE of a backlash against my co-religionists! And how many Muslims work in counter-terrorism in DC and Virginia? Got a link? You can be fluent in Arabic and work for the CIA or NSA without being Muslim. "Death is a chance they take...?" Spare us your ridiculous over-dramatizing! Are they more at risk than agents in the field? And who is threatening to kill them? Are they worried about hate crimes or ISIS? Either way the solution is to destroy ISIS, not whine about being profiled. Heck, if they're working in counter-terrorism as you claim, then they're the ones DOING the profiling against muslims and muslim-Americans.

And yes, Odumbo's 2011 Iraq pullout was very abrupt from an intelligence-gathering standpoint. One day the lights were on. The next day they went dark.

You are a fool and an idiot of the first magnitude. You can't think anything through beyond the superficial spoon-fed libtard talking points you are constantly regurgitating. It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about and can't think for yourself.
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[LexusLover]

Is this another one of those .... let's play nice so they will be nice moments?

[Muscleup]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

You fucking moron. How many muslims do you think we employ in counterterrorism efforts? 5? Get a clue, dumbass. Do you understand that you are a moron? Moderate muslims are ALREADY helping us. They would like to continue to help us, but we have fucking dumbasses like YOU out there who are calling for their heads or idiots like Trump who don't even want to let them in the country. You and your ilk are playing right into ISIS' hands and you are too stupid to even realize it. They want you to vilify muslims. They eat that shit up. It makes recruiting easier than ever for them.

Liberals will not get it until there is a 10 KT thermal nuclear detonation in downtown New York. It's pointless to argue with a libtard.

On a more positive note, that would get rid of a few million lefties in the blink of an eye.

On second thought, of course, let all the musy's in. LOL

Hey mortardo, they (radicalized musi's) hate your very existence. There is nothing you can do good or bad to make them hate you less. You are an infidel. Where is the big uproar from moderate musi's. There is none. Nothing significant.

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by WTF

Same reason we put up with the Shah of Iran.

"WE".... Really? * WTF did you suffer, under his regime?

WTF did you suffer, under Saddam's regime? (I would have said "Hussein's"... but I didn't want to insult the POTUS!!)

WTF did you suffer under Gaddafi's regime?

WTF are you suffering, under Assad's regime?

I know my answers to those questions!!

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Being prevented from saying it is what "hurts us"!

You'll never get a socialist, dependent on the government to admit that. Not to mention it's still illegal for a Native American to practice his religion in America, and many other religions. So why doesn't Obama care about those religions and out beating the stump to have those laws repealed? Ever heard of polygamy? Remember that little religious persecution oopsie?

I think he wants more Americans killed to promote gun control.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

You'll never get a socialist....

The "news" media was congested yesterday with politicians "distancing" themselves from Trump's remark about TEMPORARILY stopping Muslims from entering the U.S. until the Government could figure out "what was going on"...

... and most of the remarks were centered around the "concept" that his remark was "divisive" and "unAmerican"!

Hillarious was particularly "Hillarious" yesterday and actually used the word "divisive"! She was taking a break from her "War on Women" speeches on the campaign trail. The White House took a breather from the War on Gun Owners and the War on Cops! Actually, the list is endless .... But "honorable mention" are the Republicans who accused the front runner of being "divisive" and "unAmerican"!

Have all the dead from San Bernardino been buried yet?
Have all the wounded from San Bernardino healed yet?
Has the facility in which they were killed and wounded been even cleaned up?

The periodic news releases by the FBI regarding "who knew what when" is "unsettling" to the say the least, so it's a good idea to inundate the news cycles with outrage over "singling out" the Muslims OUTSIDE OF THE U.S. for "vetting" with a RELIABLE DATA BASE AND "VETTING" TOOLS .... so that those who are RESPONSIBLE for protecting the U.S. citizens AND GUESTS from being slaughtered by a MUSLIM WHO ILLEGALLY ENTERED this country and another MUSLIM who facilitated the ILLEGAL ENTRY when the MUSLIM who ILLEGALLY ENTERED is now being "investigated" by the FBI as being "AN OPERATIVE" from "some terror group"!!!

Our President started out with his "work place violence" bullshit (like a video) ....

..... and the FBI is looking at a MUSLIM FEMALE TERRORIST OPERATIVE!!!!

And the politicians want to attack Trump??????

[gnadfly]

From the news last night: $28,500 hit the Jihadi's bank account shortly before the attack. Somehow, someway the US govt doesn't know where the money originated.

The Jihadi's mother shared the same car and lived at the same address as the Jihadi's BUT she is not considered a Jihadi. Somehow, she's took care of the child at their address but didn't know about their bomb making factory.

The Jihadi's mother attends a mosque sympathetic to the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) where Anwar al-Awlaki has spoken.

Anyone seen anything about the GoPro cameras? Initial reports had the Jihadi's wearing them during the attack and there are receipts and packaging for the cameras but they haven't been found.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Anyone seen anything about the GoPro cameras? Initial reports had the Jihadi's wearing them during the attack and there are receipts and packaging for the cameras but they haven't been found.

If the imaging was not sent to a "cloud" as an upload and they were worn during their rolling shootout .... the ME might have to extract the parts from inside their respective bodies after separating the parts from bone fragment, glass and metal fragments, tactical gear fragments, and body mush and fluids. The memory chip might be tough to identify, even if intact. The way the FBI processed the scene at their bomb factory quarters, they might overlook the "memory"!

[JD Barleycorn]

That backlash doesn't exist. Obama's own justice department has reported that hate crimes against Muslims only make up about 11% of all hate crimes and hasn't changed much since 9/11. On the other hand (and this will please WTF, NBK, EVA, and a few others) 67% of the hate crimes in this country are directed against Jews. I knew that would warm the cockles of that thing you call a heart.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

From the news last night: $28,500 hit the Jihadi's bank account shortly before the attack. Somehow, someway the US govt doesn't know where the money originated.

The Jihadi's mother shared the same car and lived at the same address as the Jihadi's BUT she is not considered a Jihadi. Somehow, she's took care of the child at their address but didn't know about their bomb making factory.

The Jihadi's mother attends a mosque sympathetic to the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) where Anwar al-Awlaki has spoken.

Anyone seen anything about the GoPro cameras? Initial reports had the Jihadi's wearing them during the attack and there are receipts and packaging for the cameras but they haven't been found.

One of the victims and her husband attended the same Mosque what is your point ?

[DSK]

Originally Posted by WombRaider

You fucking moron. How many muslims do you think we employ in counterterrorism efforts? 5? Get a clue, dumbass. Do you understand that you are a moron? Moderate muslims are ALREADY helping us. They would like to continue to help us, but we have fucking dumbasses like YOU out there who are calling for their heads or idiots like Trump who don't even want to let them in the country. You and your ilk are playing right into ISIS' hands and you are too stupid to even realize it. They want you to vilify muslims. They eat that shit up. It makes recruiting easier than ever for them.

At the same time, if what you say is correct, then the Muslims play into the hands of the patriotic right wingers like myself everytime they blow shit up and slaughter people - because they are doing exactly what we are warning you about!
The so-called good Muslims play into our hands by not condemning them all the way and right away.