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Old 09-05-2015, 10:04 AM   #16
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Emmie, Its a good point. There are definitely fewer options for couples.

Interestingly there are fewer options for women searching for another woman. Which is actually what we are seeking. Depending on my wife's attitude and the providers comfort I am either sitting in the bar imaging the fun upstairs or across the room eating popcorn from the nose bleed section.


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Well, also you are asking for a couple. A lot of us don't do couples, so that might be why you're not getting a response.
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:17 AM   #17
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I do couples....you gotta cum to Springfield..or wait till I cum back to KC in October!
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:33 AM   #18
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All we know is that this guy (presumably) has this "smokin' hot wife" that he can't seem to find a hook-up for in over two years of trolling.

Dude, maybe you are the problem!!

If, in fact, you do have such a wife, maybe you should let her look for herself! And leave us the fuck alone...
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My apologies for ruining your labor day weekend wasting your time by compelling you to reply to my questions in an open forum.

Its certainly subjective but I believe my wife is incredibly beautiful. And seeing her going down on an equally beautiful lady is sexy beyond belief! Smoking hot is an accurate description.

We have 4 okays on P411. Chicago. Dallas. Chicago. NOLO. All places I have we have had great success in this adventure. Two years ago our first efforts in Missouri were unsuccessful. We are trying again now.

Again sorry for the huge inconvenience this thread has created for you. A friendly suggestion, be super careful reading the weekend line up or ad section here. You are likely to see dozens of posts there to which you have nothing productive to contribute and yet will feel compelled to do so.
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:52 AM   #19
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I do couples....you gotta cum to Springfield..or wait till I cum back to KC in October!
This sounds like the best idea. I bet Emmie is correct as well. You may have contacted some ladies that do not see couples, got wierded out, and just ignored your message. You might search reviews and activities on P411 to find ladies suitable for you and your wife's fantasy (bi-sexual, and couple friendly are listed on P411). You might include some references who have obliged your fantasy as well, just to lend yourself some credibility.

On the other hand, Dallas has great reviews, and is always positive and friendly, so hopefully you can work it all out. Good luck and have fun!

PS, I'm sure he did not contact all 18 at once. ha He may have got frustrated, by the non-response, and sent additional inquiries.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:09 AM   #20
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This sounds like the best idea. I bet Emmie is correct as well. You may have contacted some ladies that do not see couples, got wierded out, and just ignored your message. You might search reviews and activities on P411 to find ladies suitable for you and your wife's fantasy (bi-sexual, and couple friendly are listed on P411). You might include some references who have obliged your fantasy as well, just to lend yourself some credibility.

On the other hand, Dallas has great reviews, and is always positive and friendly, so hopefully you can work it all out. Good luck and have fun!

PS, I'm sure he did not contact all 18 at once. ha He may have got frustrated, by the non-response, and sent additional inquiries.

Thank you very much for your reply. Since it is really just my wife partaking we have narrowed the searches on P411 only looking for ladies who identify as bisexual. But have also learned over the past couple of years some ladies, for a variety of reasons, are bisexual but prefer to not notate that on the list of services.

I am going to nominate Dallas for President of the bisexual providers club. Perhaps she can set up a whole new agency catering to making bisexual and/or lesbian hookups!

You are correct I have spaced out my messages over time.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:35 AM   #21
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Fbn:
Consider that several folks have presented a completely valid responses, some which you have acknowledged, and some of which are:

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Don't know what your 411 profile looks like, but I think the fact that you have no reviews here in almost 2 yrs as a member may be the reason you have such a low response rate. They may see that and consider you a newbie, a lurker, or worse. Just a thought
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... You may have contacted some ladies that do not see couples, got wierded out, and just ignored your message. You might search reviews and activities on P411 to find ladies suitable for you and your wife's fantasy (bi-sexual, and couple friendly are listed on P411). You might include some references who have obliged your fantasy as well, just to lend yourself some credibility...
Here's my point:
As others have mentioned, you have zero reviews on this board. And you really do not even have a board persona (after a couple years). Until you do, (for both), and simply cause everyone here screens for what they like, and asks for references and screens for safety, the choices you have here, and the responses, will be slim.
From your other thread it appears that you wish to be a spectator while your wife plays. So why isn't your wife doing the shopping?
Frankly this board is mostly for guys to date gals, so, have you even tried other boards that may be more appropriate for what you're looking for?
Lastly, perhaps our eight legged arthropod could chime in on if a spectator's review of his wife having fun could go into the Other Reviews Sub-Forum.
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Old 09-05-2015, 01:29 PM   #22
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Thanks for your thoughts. Your idea about doing reviews is a really good one. I have to figure out how best to do so.

My wife assists with the search. She is obviously the person making the final decisions. Its more like I narrow the field and do the initial communication. Why does she not do it all?
Can you image how a woman would fair on this board posting and trying to get suggestions for providers? Every swinging dick within the region would be responding with "helpful" suggestions".

Thus far we have been unable to find any more specialized boards. Some have suggested swingers clubs. That might be an option as well. But for now the pay to play model is preferred.

We are happy taking weekend jaunts to different locations in the country. We are just trying, again, to find some good options closer to home. It seems more challenging here in MO that in other parts of the county. Some of that may have to do with the region of the country and the population density. Just a guess.

I have not been a frequent contributor here because I have little to contribute. Likewise, I see a lot of nubs go down in flames asking seemingly innocent questions. Most frequently at the hands/words of other dudes (not including you in this group).

I keep my fingers crossed if I am a good boy I will perhaps some day be invited to the main event!

I will start contributing more to the board. Hopefully I can figure out useful commentary otherwise I will be relegated to the occasional smart ass comments, of which I am prone.

Cheers and thanks for the input.

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Consider that several folks have presented a completely valid responses, some which you have acknowledged, and some of which are:





Here's my point:
As others have mentioned, you have zero reviews on this board. And you really do not even have a board persona (after a couple years). Until you do, (for both), and simply cause everyone here screens for what they like, and asks for references and screens for safety, the choices you have here, and the responses, will be slim.
From your other thread it appears that you wish to be a spectator while your wife plays. So why isn't your wife doing the shopping?
Frankly this board is mostly for guys to date gals, so, have you even tried other boards that may be more appropriate for what you're looking for?
Lastly, perhaps our eight legged arthropod could chime in on if a spectator's review of his wife having fun could go into the Other Reviews Sub-Forum.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:39 PM   #23
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Have you tried any gentleman's clubs? A little sophistication in that context might at least land you a referral.
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Old 09-06-2015, 05:03 AM   #24
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Lastly, perhaps our eight legged arthropod could chime in on if a spectator's review of his wife having fun could go into the Other Reviews Sub-Forum.
He could submit such a review, but what would be the point? He already has Lifetime Premium Access and his wife would not be available for others to contact unless she decides to become a provider. If as part of their marital fantasies, she would enjoy seeing the responses other guys post, that might be a fun reason for writing such a review.
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Old 09-06-2015, 06:12 AM   #25
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My 2 cents - You can see the last time a provider logged into P411 and you can also see if they have read your message. On this board, you can see their last post and if they read your message, if they YES to the read confirmation.

If your message has been read the courtesy of a response should be expected, unless your message is too explicit or other factors. If a provider does not do couples, they should respond as such. It is just being polite and professional.

I can guarantee you I get more emails a day than the majority of providers. Other than spam, I respond to all of them within 24 hours. That's they way it should be. Of course I'm old school. I have not be ruined by the etiquette or lack thereof of social media.

By the way, the lack of response means a loss of a potential customer. No response = no more contact from the customer. A simple response of "sorry, but busy that day" means a future customer.
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Old 09-06-2015, 06:49 AM   #26
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He could submit such a review, but what would be the point? He already has Lifetime Premium Access and his wife would not be available for others to contact unless she decides to become a provider. If as part of their marital fantasies, she would enjoy seeing the responses other guys post, that might be a fun reason for writing such a review.
But our ECCIE gals here could see that he, or they, do post reviews. Perhaps a comfort level with board persona thing.
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Yes, to some degree it might help or hinder their efforts. Is a positive board persona something they want? As someone mentioned previously, is Eccie the best venue for them to find what they are looking for?
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Not hinder, but simply clarify. Regardless, another board is prob more appropriate
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And maybe some of them know each other and realize that you have sent out requests to nearly 20 different gals in 1 week. If I was a provider and knew that, I would 100% think that you are just a troll and a time waster. When I'm "hunting", I contact 2, maybe 3 gals, NOT 18.

Were you planning to see them all this week if they did respond? I think not, so be more respectful of their time and maybe you will have a higher PERCENTAGE of response, not more responses. Send 3-5 and get 2-3.
Let's just ask the obvious question; why 18?

You couldn't have expected to see them all unless you are superman. There are a lot of wonderful ladies here, but one guy could not really expect to see 18 all at once, unless he was superman. Which ones do you really want to see, ask them nicely and it will come across in your correspondence and your voice when you talk to them.

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I couldn't handle 18 ladies in a decade yet alone a week. But again this is a search for a specific niche market - ladies for lady. And there is no other board or online community specializing in this area.

The number I mention was the total number of ladies I contacted over a period of a couple of weeks. I Did not spam them all at once. I also used this and another site to communicate. Typically it has taken inquires to 5-8 individuals to find one whose schedule and interests line up well.

We have played on various markets, Chicago, Dallas, Devner and NOLO. KC has been the only place we have struggled so much to connect with a lady.

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Let's just ask the obvious question; why 18?

You couldn't have expected to see them all unless you are superman. There are a lot of wonderful ladies here, but one guy could not really expect to see 18 all at once, unless he was superman. Which ones do you really want to see, ask them nicely and it will come across in your correspondence and your voice when you talk to them.

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