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				This entire thread is a waste of time. president Obama is not a Muslim. 
			
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Again, I ask, why has this ever been a relevant question?  
 
Or have you fellas lost touch with the freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of fucking Rights?
 
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			03-04-2015, 05:07 PM
			
			
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				Again, I ask, why has this ever been a relevant question?   
Or have you fellas lost touch with the freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of fucking Rights?
 
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			03-04-2015, 08:01 PM
			
			
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				The "secrets" have, for the most part, all been published, Old-THUMPER. There's not a single, solitary, substantively valid source you can cite that claims Truman, et al, demanded anything other than unconditional surrender, Old-THUMPER. In fact, the extant evidence shows the opposite is true, Old-THUMPER. "Dugout" Doug criticized Truman for not compromising on that point before Japan surrendered, Old-THUMPER. Pony up, if you imagine that your "clueless" ass has something substantive to the contrary, Old-THUMPER.  
			
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But of course you know the truth.  You know everything.
 
Sorry, you have proven over and over you only know what is in books--and much of the world of spies and diplomacy is never written, never even spoken in the clear.  You are so clueless about so many things.
 
But we have had this conversation before.  You only accept "facts" that you wish to accept--anything that does not fit your warped world view you ignore or claim is not applicable or you twist what it actually says.
 
There is no actual "debate" with you--that would require you to be honest about what you said and what others said, and we all know that isn't in your make-up.
 
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			03-04-2015, 08:11 PM
			
			
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				But of course you know the truth. You know everything. 
 
Sorry, you have proven over and over you only know what is in books--and much of the world of spies and diplomacy is never written, never even spoken in the clear. You are so clueless about so many things. 
 
But we have had this conversation before. You only accept "facts" that you wish to accept--anything that does not fit your warped world view you ignore or claim is not applicable or you twist what it actually says. 
 
There is no actual "debate" with you--that would require you to be honest about what you said and what others said, and we all know that isn't in your make-up. 
 
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   Typical Old-THUMPER.  He *pretends* to have special access to information no one else has, and because it's **special** information, he cannot share his *fairy tale* to actually prove it exists!    Meanwhile, MacArthur's remarks -- MacArthur: the man actually charged with accepting the Japanese surrender -- makes it pretty damn clear you're a miscreant liar, Old-THUMPER. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2015, 08:32 PM
			
			
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				But of course you know the truth.  You know everything. 
  
Sorry, you have proven over and over you only know what is in books--and much of the world of spies and diplomacy is never written, never even spoken in the clear.  You are so clueless about so many things. 
  
But we have had this conversation before.  You only accept "facts" that you wish to accept--anything that does not fit your warped world view you ignore or claim is not applicable or you twist what it actually says. 
  
There is no actual "debate" with you--that would require you to be honest about what you said and what others said, and we all know that isn't in your make-up. 
  
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			03-04-2015, 09:23 PM
			
			
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			03-04-2015, 09:33 PM
			
			
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				You been keeping secrets from us Old-Thunderbird, you old spook... 
  
			
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Why yes, you DO get it!!  I have been keeping you safe for years.  You are welcome. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2015, 09:45 PM
			
			
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				MacArthur: the man actually charged with accepting the Japanese surrender -- makes it pretty damn clear you're a miscreant liar, Old-THUMPER. 
			
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Are you saying the General knew that Old-T was a miscreant liar?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2015, 09:58 PM
			
			
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				Are you saying the General knew that Old-T was a miscreant liar? 
			
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I tell you what:  why don't you invite Duggie to come on here and talk about it.  Right after he explains why his megalomania got him shipped out of the Pacific.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2015, 10:07 PM
			
			
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				Are you saying the General knew that Old-T was a miscreant liar? 
			
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  No, Old-THUMPER is a miscreant liar because his **fairy tale** is directly at odds with post war statements made by General MacArthur. 
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				I tell you what:  why don't you invite Duggie to come on here and talk about it.  Right after he explains why his megalomania got him shipped out of the Pacific. 
			
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No need, Old-THUMPER, one of MacArthur's comments was already cited at post # 700 for all posterity -- except for dumb fucks like you, Old-THUMPER -- to see, learn and know. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2015, 11:31 PM
			
			
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			Ah yes, one comment taken on IB's interpretation with no opportunity to cross examine for truth. 
 
Let me ask a similar question:  how many of the generals in WW-II knew about the bomb before Hiroshima?   Most did not.  So why do you think Truman would have been completely open with D.Mc.? 
 
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			03-04-2015, 11:40 PM
			
			
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				Sorry, you have proven over and over you only know what is in books--and much of the world of spies and diplomacy is never written, never even spoken in the clear.  You are so clueless about so many things. 
			
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Well, it's been 70 years since WW2 ended so the key decision makers are all dead. Those spies and diplomats published their memoirs long ago. What should a good historian rely on, old-twerp?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-04-2015, 11:41 PM
			
			
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				Well, it's been 70 years since WW2 ended and the key decision makers are all dead. Those spies and diplomats published their memoirs long ago. What should a good historian rely on, old-twerp? 
			
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Oh shit! It's chicken dick's ugly cousin. What's up you ole butt buddy   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Ah yes, one comment taken on IB's interpretation with no opportunity to cross examine for truth. 
 
Let me ask a similar question:  how many of the generals in WW-II knew about the bomb before Hiroshima?   Most did not.  So why do you think Truman would have been completely open with D.Mc.? 
 
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  Where is your source, Old-THUMPER?  If such knowledge hasn't been published and such information is still classified as super, Top Secret, Old-THUMPER, how the fuck do you know about it, and why the fuck are you revealing it on a SHMB, Old-THUMPER?  You're a pathetic liar, Old-THUMPER, and MacArthur's remark trumps your unsubstantiated **fairy tale** every day of the week, Old-THUMPER. 
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				Oh shit! It's chicken dick's ugly cousin. What's up you ole butt buddy   
			
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 Your pathetic and perverse fascination for poultry genitalia is showing, you "#Grubered" Odumbo Minion.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Typical IB tactic.  Ignore the question that pokes at the heart of his illogic.  
 
Tell me: what did I reveal?  
 
You and your lap dogs can "old twerp" all you wish, it doesn't reduce your ignorance one bit.  You are so clueless about so much it is almost pitiful.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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