Sex workers can now apply for health insurance without negative repercussions

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

You can't possibly believe you're more credentialed and smarter than Obama. If you think you are what is your ivy league academic basis or better yet your proven political track record? I refuse to believe you actually believe that. I don't begrudge your opinion and yes I am a mother fucker. ;-) . I'm also extremely proud and unapologetic of Obama our first black PRESIDENT and the outstanding legacy of helping others that he's leaving behind.

You're outing yourself, Mr. Gruber.

Oh, what are Obaminable's "academic basis"? LSAT score, application, acceptance package, and transcript, please.

Back to the reality of debunked healthcare coverage aka Obamacare.

[Russ38]

[GlobeSpotter]

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

Three things:

1.) If you're working in corporate America and paying your doctor's cash you should seriously consider a new profession.

2.) Personally I'm not concerned with what's expensive for the rich. They buy expensive toys all the time.

3.) You can't possibly believe you're more credentialed and smarter than Obama. If you think you are what is your ivy league academic basis or better yet your proven political track record? I refuse to believe you actually believe that. I don't begrudge your opinion and yes I am a mother fucker. ;-) . I'm also extremely proud and unapologetic of Obama our first black PRESIDENT and the outstanding legacy of helping others that he's leaving behind.

1. Leaving out the details, I have the best employer on the planet right now, and I've busted my ass to get there. I'm an employee of the company I own and the company's focus is not healthcare. My revenue, profit and salary would be then envy of most. Not to mention that my clients pay me to travel the world and pay all my expenses except my whores. Fortunately, the whores are so cheap I can afford 2 or 3 per day.

2. I'm concerned with what's expensive for the rich because, in the government's eyes, I'm rich. Paying the government 15K per year for useless healthcare is not good. I'm traveling right now and missed the State of the Idiot address but I heard he plans to take more of my money and give it away to people that don't deserve it.

3. I'll take on Obama straight up on any matter any day. My turds are smarter than that guy. Political track records are useless. Getting shit done is what counts and my track record on that goes a long way. Every leader I've worked for gave me more because I was always the guy that brought home the bacon no matter what the challenge. I've ignored your posts in the past on you being an Obama lover. I understand you just can't help it. You too, like most of Negro America, are infatuated with this accomplishment. The accomplishment just proves how stupid Americans are becoming. I don't give two shits what color he is or what color anybody is. I only give a shit about results and your guy is a failure. Time will prove the legacy he leaves behind will be an embarrassment and maybe some of you blind ones will realize some day it was wool blocking your vision.

Fortunately, you vote in Texas and your vote gets flushed down the toilet with the rest of the liberals' votes.

Edit: for those of you in corporate America with healthcare provided/subsidized by your employer, you too will soon see it degrade as it is morphed to comply with the law. Costs will go up and benefit will go down....well...you'll soon be able to get immunizations at 100%. The rest of it will just degrade. The government's goal is to get corporate America so frustrated and saddled with the costs....that companies chose to focus on what they're good at and just hand the healthcare over to the government. "Let the government and the doctors fight this out." is what they'll be saying.

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by boardman

Damn dude.
You were doing good up to the point where you turned it blatantly political.
Haven't you been warned numerous times? Too fucking easy.

Warned about what? We're talking hooker politics as it relates to the ACA and who provisioned it. Not my fault that's a fact over your head.

[Jettech01]

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

3.) You can't possibly believe you're more credentialed and smarter than Obama. If you think you are what is your ivy league academic basis or better yet your proven political track record? I refuse to believe you actually believe that. I don't begrudge your opinion and yes I am a mother fucker. ;-) . I'm also extremely proud and unapologetic of Obama our first black PRESIDENT and the outstanding legacy of helping others that he's leaving behind.

The One main problem with the current administration as well as all liberal government agency's is eventually they will run out of other peoples money to spend, and then we are ALL in a world of hurt. Point made is......People should only be allowed to receive what they have EARNED and not what they feel ENTITLED to.

Back to talkin about hookers.....:-)

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

1. Leaving out the details, I have the best employer on the planet right now, and I've busted my ass to get there. I'm an employee of the company I own and the company's focus is not healthcare. My revenue, profit and salary would be then envy of most. Not to mention that my clients pay me to travel the world and pay all my expenses except my whores. Fortunately, the whores are so cheap I can afford 2 or 3 per day.

2. I'm concerned with what's expensive for the rich because, in the government's eyes, I'm rich. Paying the government 15K per year for useless healthcare is not good. I'm traveling right now and missed the State of the Idiot address but I heard he plans to take more of my money and give it away to people that don't deserve it.

3. I'll take on Obama straight up on any matter any day. My turds are smarter than that guy. Political track records are useless. Getting shit done is what counts and my track record on that goes a long way. Every leader I've worked for gave me more because I was always the guy that brought home the bacon no matter what the challenge. I've ignored your posts in the past on you being an Obama lover. I understand you just can't help it. You too, like most of Negro America, are infatuated with this accomplishment. The accomplishment just proves how stupid Americans are becoming. I don't give two shits what color he is or what color anybody is. I only give a shit about results and your guy is a failure. Time will prove the legacy he leaves behind will be an embarrassment and maybe some of you blind ones will realize some day it was wool blocking your vision.

Fortunately, you vote in Texas and your vote gets flushed down the toilet with the rest of the liberals' votes.

Edit: for those of you in corporate America with healthcare provided/subsidized by your employer, you too will soon see it degrade as it is morphed to comply with the law. Costs will go up and benefit will go down....well...you'll soon be able to get immunizations at 100%. The rest of it will just degrade. The government's goal is to get corporate America so frustrated and saddled with the costs....that companies chose to focus on what they're good at and just hand the healthcare over to the government. "Let the government and the doctors fight this out." is what they'll be saying.

Nice rant. I've talked to many people like you and the ignorance is always mind numbing. So you've traveled the world and so have I, so you're the envy of most people so am I, so you're in the upper paying tax brackets and so am I. ;-) and for the record the same reason I voted for is the same reason you voted against. ;-) figure that one out.

What's startling to me though is the intellectual dishonesty. The ACA benefits mentioned in the article are real and tangible especially for people like escorts who typically hide their profession. I've laid out great points in favor of why they should sign up and all you've provided is more doomsday theories none of which have come true to date.

I don't want to hear this stuff about wait and we shall see on employer subsidized insurance yall been saying that since 2008 and here we are things flourishing with more positive projections on the horizon.

Also I surely don't want to hear this talk about everyone at the top working hard for success. While some do the vast majority in CEO positions don't.

You have a cookie cutter mindset. I get mine now fuck everyone else or we go with the old tried and true that everyone else is not working as hard as me. I find it very interesting that as the owner of the best company in the world it seems you spend more time on this site talking shit than most business owners. I wouldn't want to be your stakeholder but wait you got the good people under you to do the work right? What's your next point? Hide behind your business as a retort.

Fact is some of the wealthiest men in the world understand these principles I don't want to morph this into a discussion on the economy so go to the political forum where I can further test your views. You're educated you shouldn't have an issue with schooling this dumb kid. ;-)

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by Jettech01

The One main problem with the current administration as well as all liberal government agency's is eventually they will run out of other peoples money to spend, and then we are ALL in a world of hurt. Point made is......People should only be allowed to receive what they have EARNED and not what they feel ENTITLED to.

Back to talkin about hookers.....:-)

Remember 2000-2008? Talk about a world of hurt. I do agree if you don't want to work for it than neither shall you eat.

[Space Cowboy]

This is still in coed? I wanna talk about hookers, this shit is lame.

Move this pile of shit to the politics forum where it belongs.

[Space Cowboy]

This is still in coed? I wanna talk about hookers, this shit is lame.

Move this pile of shit to the politics forum where it belongs.

[GlobeSpotter]

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

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and for the record the same reason I voted for is the same reason you voted against. ;-) figure that one out.
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It's pretty easy.

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

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The ACA benefits mentioned in the article are real and tangible especially for people like escorts who typically hide their profession.
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Sounds like a big fan of socialism to me.

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

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've laid out great points in favor of why they should sign up
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I missed that part, but will take another look.

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

all you've provided is more doomsday theories none of which have come true to date.
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The night is young. But there is no credible economic equilibrium the way they have it laid out. I see the two outcomes as either the socialist "single payer" Hillary has in the back of her mind or a revolt amongst those of us with money pulling enough of the cash flow out to support basically medical cottage businesses like you see popping up all over town. The problem with the latter is the dems will just keep sucking on my paycheck to prop up their failed model meanwhile advancement in the medical industry suffers due to lack of cash and motivation for success.

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

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I don't want to hear this stuff about wait and we shall see on employer subsidized insurance yall been saying that since 2008
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The King you worship postponed it out of fear. More wool over your eyes to delay the inevitable.

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

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Also I surely don't want to hear this talk about everyone at the top working hard for success. While some do the vast majority in CEO positions don't.
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I'll bet those CEOs play less golf than your King does.

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

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You have a cookie cutter mindset. I get mine now fuck everyone else or we go with the old tried and true that everyone else is not working as hard as me.
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I have an analytical mindset far beyond cookie cutter. You're now speculating and I'm not going to defend it. If you knew me, you would have heard me many times speak in amazement of how hard many people work for an equivalent 1/10 or less of what I get. I've seen people weaving scaffolding out of bamboo and cutting steel without tinted glasses or working seven 12-hour shifts and sleeping under cardboard roofing scabbed on to the shipyard buildings. They live like this courtesy of two fucked up governments; the country they send their earnings back to and the country lucky enough to generate the work. They are slaves without chains.

Edit: When I go to the catering camp of these worksites, I get in line with the workers. It often pisses off the captain or my host but I don't give a shit. I prefer to sit with the workers.

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

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as the owner of the best company in the world it
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I said it was the best "employer" ...not company.

I'm not responding on the rest of your crap and I'm staying out of the political forums because it's full of mostly idiot liberals that either don't listen or can't understand....they're just going to keep on voting us into socialism to a point where everybody is the same and happy....all at the lowest common denominator....the bottom.

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

It's pretty easy.Sounds like a big fan of socialism to me.I missed that part, but will take another look.The night is young. But there is no credible economic equilibrium the way they have it laid out. I see the two outcomes as either the socialist "single payer" Hillary has in the back of her mind or a revolt amongst those of us with money pulling enough of the cash flow out to support basically medical cottage businesses like you see popping up all over town. The problem with the latter is the dems will just keep sucking on my paycheck to prop up their failed model meanwhile advancement in the medical industry suffers due to lack of cash and motivation for success. The King you worship postponed it out of fear. More wool over your eyes to delay the inevitable.I'll bet those CEOs play less golf than your King does.I have an analytical mindset far beyond cookie cutter. You're now speculating and I'm not going to defend it. If you knew me, you would have heard me many times speak in amazement of how hard many people work for an equivalent 1/10 or less of what I get. I've seen people weaving scaffolding out of bamboo and cutting steel without tinted glasses or working seven 12-hour shifts and sleeping under cardboard roofing scabbed on to the shipyard buildings. They live like this courtesy of the two fucked up governments; the country they send their earnings back to and the country lucky enough to generate the work. They are slaves without chains. I said it was the best "employer" ...not company.

I'm not responding on the rest of your crap and I'm staying out of the political forums because it's full of mostly idiot liberals that either don't listen or can't understand....they're just going to keep on voting us into socialism to a point where everybody is the same and happy....all at the lowest common denominator....the bottom.

Fair enough I won't push the issue. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

I think my guy deserves to be on Mt. Rushmore and you don't. History will be the judge thus far I like the trending. Congrats on your success.

[Fancyinheels]

This hooker has always had her "cover" in place as a self-employed "entertainment director;" has always paid taxes on her Fancy earnings; has established a work and credit history so she could get things like a major cc, her incall apartment, a car loan, etc.; paid off her 20-year mortgage in December (The Irish Chihuahua Refuge is free and clear!); and last year signed up on Obamacare as soon as the website stopped crashing. (My chihuahuas could have build a better one, btw.) Didn't have to tell them about my occupation, just estimate what I would be making for the year ahead.

"Forecasting" your income is the hard part about coverage through the Health Insurance Marketplace. If you end up with a good year and your income is above your estimate, you have to pay back all or part of any government health insurance subsidy. If you overestimated how much you would make, qualified for a bigger subsidy and paid too much in premiums, it's a whole ball of yarn to get a refund. As little as a $1,000 off can make a big difference in eligibility. It's a pain.

Anyway... It is possible to do everything else right while being SO wrong.

[YSD]

These are facts. Regardless of premiums and subsidies, the plans are expensive to use for just about everybody.

Deductibles on the cheapest ACA plans are $3000 for an individual and $6000 for a family. After
The deductible is met it goes to co insurance with the maximum out of pocket for an individual at around $6000 before it pays 100% and over $12,000 for a family---- for the cheapest Bronze plans.

Also
On some of the bronze plans Rx co-pays have been eliminated. So each individual must pay $3000 before the plan even kicks in. The family at $6000 before the plan pays one dime.

The Feds basically told us all that we now insure ourselves for up to $12,000 for a family. If no subsidy the plans are expensive.

If you only look at the deductibles I do not know many folks who have $3000 individual and $6000 a family as disposable cash just to pay deductibles.

The plan designs are horrific and you can tell they were designed by beuracrats who could care less about the middle class than the rhetoric they spout. ACA is a very onerous plan and the worst is yet to come. Those of us with corporate benefits will see premiums rise and benefits decrease in 2015 when the employer mandate kicks in.

We needed reform but not this monstrosity of a bill. This is bad legislation with terrible consequences for US citizens. So how can these plans with such exorbitant out of pocket costs help? It puts care out of reach for the very people it was supposed to help. The out of pockets and deductibles simply hurt the poor and the low income earners badly. This does not even consider higher premis for non subsidized insureds. How does this help anyone but the Fed and the big insurance companies?

This is nothing but corporatism/ socialism.

[GlobeSpotter]

J99

I'm going to grab some quotes from you when I'm back on my pc. But for continuity to readers, ....

I found the perfect plan for me on the site of the company i chose. (Assuming there are actually credible doctors and facilities on the plan.)

It is basically a catastrophic plan where the mid range deductible was the same as the out of pocket limit.

So.....nothing is covered until you hit the deductible. Then, everything is covered. I felt i could manage that risk and just pay cash for what i need with my doctors and facilities. It would essentially cap my yearly exposure and I'd happily use the savings towards daily out of pocket which is high in my household.

Well....guess what?.....that plan is not offered to me.

Why is that?.....

.....because i make too much money.

The feds need my money to power this engine. They can't have me getting out for cheap.

You made some good points I want to validate later....since there are so many providers and non-believers in here.

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

This hooker has always had her "cover" in place as a self-employed "entertainment director;" has always paid taxes on her Fancy earnings; has established a work and credit history so she could get things like a major cc, her incall apartment, a car loan, etc.; paid off her 20-year mortgage in December (The Irish Chihuahua Refuge is free and clear!); and last year signed up on Obamacare as soon as the website stopped crashing. (My chihuahuas could have build a better one, btw.) Didn't have to tell them about my occupation, just estimate what I would be making for the year ahead.

"Forecasting" your income is the hard part about coverage through the Health Insurance Marketplace. If you end up with a good year and your income is above your estimate, you have to pay back all or part of any government health insurance subsidy. If you overestimated how much you would make, qualified for a bigger subsidy and paid too much in premiums, it's a whole ball of yarn to get a refund. As little as a $1,000 off can make a big difference in eligibility. It's a pain.

Anyway... It is possible to do everything else right while being SO wrong.

It's good to hear that you're covered. ACA is obviously not a perfect system but for those who previously had no coverage a good step in the right direction.

You obviously are a good planner.