Addressing some things

[Guest022016]

I have debated whether or not to participate in this discussion, however, due to the humiliation a client of mine endured I have decided to speak up.

The man who gave *Staff Edit - JCM of Ms. Cash I can vouche has NOTHING wrong with his manhood. I provided her w a reference of him. I am also offended bc done have taken her word as gold it implies that numerous other providers and I provide services to "dirty" men, which is simply not true. When a man w a high presence on these boards with no incidents in women's lounge to cause concern to us as providers there should be no incidents such as what was encountered. As I do not know Ms. Cash personally I think this may be common behavior for her and many simply don't speak up for fear of being dubbed as having bad junk mainly by white knights.

And as far as being careful w STI's honestly if ppl would research there really is no telling if a person is infected by performing an inspection unless open sores are present or something is leaking. Also, condoms are not always a 100% guarantee of protection bc in reality they break, fall off, and some STI's are transfered by skin to skin contact regardless if anything is observed on surface level. So unless you want to stay safe do a blood test which is also not effective bc some infections esp very serious ones can remain dormant w no detection for months or years. There is no more of a risk of contracting something in the business than by having casual encounters so if that is a concern maybe abstinence should be practiced. It's the risk we all take and why we do the best we can to protect ourselves w what is available.

I apologize for the detail w STI's but it's the reality we face and if I approached every situation w absolute fear and paranoia I wouldn't even bother w being in the business. There's a risk w everything in life. This just so happens to be ours. I do not condone the behavior she had displayed and apologized to my client for her cause he is a safe, sweet and gentle man who did not deserve that treatment. And I, also, not be viewed as a "less than" provider bc one lady has issues and is somehow "cleaner" then the rest of the women in the business.

[malwoody]

+1

Thank you for your post. Your perspective is important to this discussion..the "urban legends" were getting out of hand.

BTW...you got some serious bedroom eyes Sweetie....

[Unique_Carpenter]

A perspective that finally mentions other related key issues. Excellent. Thank you Sara.

[Urban Dahlia]

Originally Posted by MissSaraXXX

I have debated whether or not to participate in this discussion, however, due to the humiliation a client of mine endured I have decided to speak up.

The man who gave *Staff Edit - JCM of Ms. Cash I can vouche has NOTHING wrong with his manhood. I provided her w a reference of him. I am also offended bc done have taken her word as gold it implies that numerous other providers and I provide services to "dirty" men, which is simply not true. When a man w a high presence on these boards with no incidents in women's lounge to cause concern to us as providers there should be no incidents such as what was encountered. As I do not know Ms. Cash personally I think this may be common behavior for her and many simply don't speak up for fear of being dubbed as having bad junk mainly by white knights.

And as far as being careful w STI's honestly if ppl would research there really is no telling if a person is infected by performing an inspection unless open sores are present or something is leaking. Also, condoms are not always a 100% guarantee of protection bc in reality they break, fall off, and some STI's are transfered by skin to skin contact regardless if anything is observed on surface level. So unless you want to stay safe do a blood test which is also not effective bc some infections esp very serious ones can remain dormant w no detection for months or years. There is no more of a risk of contracting something in the business than by having casual encounters so if that is a concern maybe abstinence should be practiced. It's the risk we all take and why we do the best we can to protect ourselves w what is available.

I apologize for the detail w STI's but it's the reality we face and if I approached every situation w absolute fear and paranoia I wouldn't even bother w being in the business. There's a risk w everything in life. This just so happens to be ours. I do not condone the behavior she had displayed and apologized to my client for her cause he is a safe, sweet and gentle man who did not deserve that treatment. And I, also, not be viewed as a "less than" provider bc one lady has issues and is somehow "cleaner" then the rest of the women in the business.

How in the world could you possibly know that?

That is exactly like those people who say, "He/She looks healthy so there is no way they can have XYZ (insert the real letters of this killer disease that uses a red ribbon for its symbol) so I will have (unprotected activities) with them.

A wise person would say, "Hey, that (insert name of suspicious looking item) looks suspicious so I am NOT going to put my health or my Life in jeopardy by doing this activity or that activity with you."

I appreciate you vouching for that gentleman because we all need someone to have our backs from time to time. However, you have absolutely NO way of knowing 100% if a person has anything infectious, or does not have.

Misinformation puts this community at risk by the very fact that we simply do NOT know 100% of anything.

It is ALWAYS better to err on the side of caution when you have any question, doubt or concern regarding anything related to this hobby and your personal Lives.

[Guest022016]

I don't know how I could possibly know that!! Geez...although Im a SERVICE PROVIDER he and I just sat and played cards and drank coffee on a few occasions cause that's what hookers do...so you're right I'd have nooo fucking clue if he's clean or not.

[Guest022016]

Then why did he get a 260 hj!!! Bullshit!! If I was that God damned worried I'd say "I'm really sorry sir, I'm gonna have to cancel", while returning money.

If i suspected an an STI on a man I wouldn't sit there and continue to play with his penis. Stop defending bs.

[Johnny4455]

Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

How in the world could you possibly know that?

That is exactly like those people who say, "He/She looks healthy so there is no way they can have XYZ (insert the real letters of this killer disease that uses a red ribbon for its symbol) so I will have (unprotected activities) with them.

A wise person would say, "Hey, that (insert name of suspicious looking item) looks suspicious so I am NOT going to put my health or my Life in jeopardy by doing this activity or that activity with you."

I appreciate you vouching for that gentleman because we all need someone to have our backs from time to time. However, you have absolutely NO way of knowing 100% if a person has anything infectious, or does not have.

Misinformation puts this community at risk by the very fact that we simply do NOT know 100% of anything.

It is ALWAYS better to err on the side of caution when you have any question, doubt or concern regarding anything related to this hobby and your personal Lives.

But earlier in this thread you "vouched" for the op. Here are your words:


I will vouch for you as well.

I have given this young woman many referrals. Not one of them has ever made even one negative remark about her or her quality of service.

At least miss saras "vouch" was based on actual meetings and interaction. Your "vouch" is base in the op's reputation among some of your clients??? Right Dahlia.

The advice you gave your friend was horrible. "Dont rat out the guy that divulged ML information because he will be permanently banned and you will lose your access to ML info"

Completely bad advice. Wrong. Best advice would be for her to tell a mod who broke the rules and likely her vacation would be shortened, and he would not be permanently banned. So you gave her shitty advice.

Your all over the place, and giving really bad advice. I vouch for that.

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

How in the world could you possibly know that?
you have absolutely NO way of knowing 100% if a person has anything infectious, or does not have.
Misinformation puts this community at risk by the very fact that we simply do NOT know 100% of anything.
It is ALWAYS better to err on the side of caution when you have any question, doubt or concern regarding anything related to this hobby and your personal Lives.

I am completely, 100% convinced that I have been playing with fire for too many years and that's it...I'm outta here.....!!!!!!!
Face it folks, there is just WAAAAAAAYYYY too much risk to be doin the wild thing, no matter how many reviews and OKs they have collected...best to err on the side of caution and give an unprotected HJ instead of a CBJ... What am I missing?

[golard]

Originally Posted by malwoody

I am completely, 100% convinced that I have been playing with fire for too many years and that's it...I'm outta here.....!!!!!!!
Face it folks, there is just WAAAAAAAYYYY too much risk to be doin the wild thing, no matter how many reviews and OKs they have collected...best to err on the side of caution and give an unprotected HJ instead of a CBJ... What am I missing?

You're missing that the hj cost $120 and the dude could not decline or negotiate about it.

[Guest022016]

I apologize for the outburst. We are a business but we are also dealing with human beings and the lack of tact is probably what pisses me off the most. I'm glad he posted and he just reviewed another beautiful popular traveling spinner with no report of suspicious junk. I'm sorry the rest of the world is wrong and Ms. Cash's word is end all be all. Give me a break.

[Kshunter]

Originally Posted by MissSaraXXX

I apologize for the outburst. We are a business but we are also dealing with human beings and the lack of tact is probably what pisses me off the most. I'm glad he posted and he just reviewed another beautiful popular traveling spinner with no report of suspicious junk. I'm sorry the rest of the world is wrong and Ms. Cash's word is end all be all. Give me a break.

Fuck that - no apologies needed on your part, Sara. I'm getting a board crush on you....

[Urban Dahlia]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

But earlier in this thread you "vouched" for the op. Here are your words:


I will vouch for you as well.

I have given this young woman many referrals. Not one of them has ever made even one negative remark about her or her quality of service.

At least miss saras "vouch" was based on actual meetings and interaction. Your "vouch" is base in the op's reputation among some of your clients??? Right Dahlia.

The advice you gave your friend was horrible. "Dont rat out the guy that divulged ML information because he will be permanently banned and you will lose your access to ML info"

Completely bad advice. Wrong. Best advice would be for her to tell a mod who broke the rules and likely her vacation would be shortened, and he would not be permanently banned. So you gave her shitty advice.

Your all over the place, and giving really bad advice. I vouch for that.

It's "You're" all over the place,... As in "You are all over the place,..".

If you are going to attempt to insult me please have enough respect to use proper grammar.

P.S. I am still vouching for Lariyah. I have been on her side since the beginning of this thread. That has not changed one bit. A visit with an escort is based on how much time you will be spending with her, NOT the activities you will be receiving.

[Guest090920]

Originally Posted by Johnny4455

The advice you gave your friend was horrible. "Dont rat out the guy that divulged ML information because he will be permanently banned and you will lose your access to ML info"

This statement caught my eye again. So, Dahlia, which member is providing you with ML info these days? Or is it members?

[Urban Dahlia]

Originally Posted by scorpio31

This statement caught my eye again. So, Dahlia, which member is providing you with ML info these days? Or is it members?

Nice try lol. I don't have any access to anywhere except the public areas. I don't even have Powder Room access lol.

[bluesfan]

Perhaps I am obtuse....does a provider have the right to pick and choose what they feel is comfortable and safe? As a hobbiest, I have the right to leave if I am not comfortable.....we are adults. If a provider was uncomfortable with me, and gave me options of less service or reschedule, then I can make the choice of in this case a HJ...if iI want more, then I could get up, say goodbye and move on. It's uncomfortable for either party to cease an encounter, but I would choose to leave rather then see a provider that I was less then comfortable with. I would hope a provider has the same option....it's personal and a judgement, but it is a provider or hobbiest choice.