Big Ben

[BSer]

Both bam

[BSer]

Still ready to run Ben out? 16times an NFL QB has had a 500yd game, Ben is only one to do it twice.

[GYMBAGJIM]

Looks like Ben reads eccie posts.

[OMGitsHuge]

Andrew Luck isn't a bad quarterback. Today Ben was better. Ben isn't the best quarterback in the league but neither was Terry Bradshaw. At least Ben is the best quarterback on the Steelers roster. I'm not even sure Bradshaw was the best quarterback on the Steelers 74 Super Bowl team roster. That's no knock on Bradshaw, just like Ben he was good enough.

[oldman2525]

Originally Posted by BSer

Still ready to run Ben out? 16times an NFL QB has had a 500yd game, Ben is only one to do it twice.

ben doesnt get near the credit he deserves, noone in the league is better when you need to score or when the qb gets blitzed

he gets out of the grasp of 350 lb lineman when others would fall to the ground

and he proved today he can pass with the best of them


that is an unreal stat, to think marino,montana,and other greats never had more than one 500yd passing day

wow

[BSer]

Sept. 28, 1951 – Norm Van Brocklin#, Los Angeles Rams vs. New York Yanks
27 of 41 for 554 yards and 5 TDs

Oct. 28, 1962 – Y.A. Tittle#, New York Giants vs. Washington Redskins
27 of 39 for 505 yards and 7 TDs

Dec. 26, 1982 – Vince Ferragamo, Los Angeles Rams vs. Chicago Bears
30 of 46 for 509 yards and 3 TDs

Oct. 13, 1985 – Phil Simms, New York Giants vs. Cincinnati Bengals
40 of 62 for 513 yards and 1 TD

Oct. 23, 1988 – Dan Marino#, Miami Dolphins vs. New York Jets
35 of 60 for 521 yards and 3 TDs

Dec. 16, 1990 – Warren Moon#, Houston Oilers vs. Kansas City Chiefs
27 of 45 for 527 yards and 3 TDs

Nov. 10, 1996 – Boomer Esiason, Arizona Cardinals vs. Washington Redskins*
35 of 59 for 522 yards and 3 TDs

Nov. 5, 2000 – Elvis Grbac, Kansas City Chiefs vs. Oakland Raiders
39 of 53 for 504 yards, 2 TDs

Nov. 19, 2006 – Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints vs. Cincinnati Bengals
37 of 52 for 510 yards and 2 TDs

Dec. 20, 2009 – Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Green Bay Packers
29 of 46 for 503 yards and 3 TDs

Sept. 12, 2011 – Tom Brady, New England Patriots vs. Miami Dolphins
32 of 48 for 517 yards and 4 TDs

Jan. 1, 2012 – Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions vs. Green Bay Packers
36 of 59 for 520 yards and 5 TDs

Sept. 16, 2012 – Eli Manning, New York Giants vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers
31 of 51 for 510 yards and 3 TDS

Nov. 18, 2012 – Matt Schaub, Houston Texans vs. Jacksonville Jaguars*
43 of 55 for 527 yards and 5 TDS

Oct. 6, 2013 – Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys vs. Denver Broncos
25 of 36 for 506 yards and 5 TDS

# - Member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame
*Overtime

[GYMBAGJIM]

Remember that it's not just Ben. There is someone on the other end of those passes and a few guys blocking to give him more time to throw them. It is definitely a team effort and yesterday, for the first time in a while, the Steelers were firing on all cylinders. Ben definitely has talent but I don't believe that he plays to his potential always. Bradshaw was good but not great. Hell, I could have quarterbacked that fantastic team in those years.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by GYMBAGJIM

Remember that it's not just Ben. There is someone on the other end of those passes and a few guys blocking to give him more time to throw them. It is definitely a team effort and yesterday, for the first time in a while, the Steelers were firing on all cylinders. Ben definitely has talent but I don't believe that he plays to his potential always. Bradshaw was good but not great. Hell, I could have quarterbacked that fantastic team in those years.

No you couldn't have.

[OMGitsHuge]

Originally Posted by GYMBAGJIM

Remember that it's not just Ben. There is someone on the other end of those passes and a few guys blocking to give him more time to throw them. It is definitely a team effort and yesterday, for the first time in a while, the Steelers were firing on all cylinders. Ben definitely has talent but I don't believe that he plays to his potential always. Bradshaw was good but not great. Hell, I could have quarterbacked that fantastic team in those years.

Duh....... Of course it wasn't just Ben just like it is never just Tom Brady or Payton Manning either. What Ben did yesterday was silence his critics and force everyone to talk about him as being one of the elite quarterbacks in the league.

[Guest072323]

Originally Posted by GYMBAGJIM

Remember that it's not just Ben. There is someone on the other end of those passes and a few guys blocking to give him more time to throw them. .

Well feel free to trade him to Buffalo for EJ Manuel and let him be your QB.
For that matter... we'll trade you EJ for Bradshaw OR Hanratty....
#fuckindontknowhowgoodyagotits teelerfans....

[eaglehorse]

We will see, against the Ravens, then we will see his desire after the first quarter as he's on his back looking up.

[cabot]

Originally Posted by Paulwantsya

Well feel free to trade him to Buffalo for EJ Manuel and let him be your QB.
For that matter... we'll trade you EJ for Bradshaw OR Hanratty....
#fuckindontknowhowgoodyagotits teelerfans....

THIS is right on the money. There's a 95% chance that whoever you could possibly replace him with is going to be worse. In fact, around 80-90% chance, whoever you replace him with will essentially eliminate any hope of a Super Bowl.

Buffalo's one of 20-25 examples; not a bad team, but with their QB - ZERO % chance they win the SuperBowl. Might make a playoff, might even win a game - but 3-4 playoff games?? No way....so their season is already over. THAT is the reality in today's NFL - and fact is, Steelers with this defense and line, they're just below mediocre without Roethlisberger. Period - no way they even make the playoffs with Gradowski(??) starting - does anyone dispute that?

Even among the guys most negative on Ben here - can you honestly say that the Steelers have zero chance to win the Super Bowl because[ of Ben? No fucking way - but that's where most teams in the NFL are today. Being 'good enough' is actually being really damned good. Only 32 guys in the world are doing this job, and only 5-10 are 'good enough.'

On top of that - he's actually better than just 'good enough.' The guy can throw the deep ball - that's very rare. He hits around 50% of his long throws - you can count on one hand the # of guys who can do that in this league. Most guys pad their accuracy stats with alot more dump-offs. Nothing wrong with that at all - but it's not apples to apples.

On top of which - how many of those guys who are 'good enough' have shown that they can lead a drive to win the Super Bowl at the last minute? The guy has shown over and over, he certainly doesn't bow under pressure.

Seriously - if you're going to complain about him - then post what your plan to upgrade the Steelers once you trade Ben. You'd trade Ben for the #20 first round draft choice and have a rookie playing QB? Sure - but it's not an upgrade; it's another 10 years of frustration. Trade for some other teams backup QB plus a CB/lineman/LBer, or some other group of guys? Great - you upgraded your defense.... and you have no chance of winning the SB without a decent QB. There is NO team with a QB as good as Ben who will trade - so what's your proposal?

Funny thing - I'm not a Steelers fan, and think Ben is a jackass, oompa-loompa looking, goofus. This isn't admiration talking, this is jealousy!! However - Paulie had it right. You don't know how good you have it.

[bambino]

Fuck Paulie, and the Bills.

[cabot]

Agree -... with Fuck the Bills...

[Guest072323]

Originally Posted by cabot

Agree -... with Fuck the Bills...

But not me???
fuckin pgh.