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09-07-2014, 10:13 AM
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Join Date: Mar 30, 2009
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The original Vitalokor was great but pulled bcuz it had the "real deal" in it so Obamacare police took it down.
It is now back but no more real deal in it...just sawdust - LITERALLY. This from my personal purchases - fuck GNC as they are now willingly ripping off people.
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09-07-2014, 01:28 PM
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Location: Under a Big Oak Tree, Between Nowhere and Goodbye
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What many of ya'll don't know is:
what Viagra, Cialis, and many other ED pills will do to you over time:
• Double the risk of heart attack
• Lung bleeding
• Permanent rosacia
• Permanrnt retinal damage
• blindness
• headaches
• GERD, (acid reflux)
• Nasal Congestion
• Facial Flushing
• Priapism
you do your research for pussy, now do your research for a stiff dick. If you been taking ANY ED pills for 3 to 5 years, you are at a high risk. If the dosage that you first started with is not doing what it used to do, that is your first sign to stop, not increase the dosage. The price you pay will be higher than money.
There are other and safer alternatives.
DO YOUR RESEARCH.
CG
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09-07-2014, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Mar 28, 2012
Location: Tel Aviv
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Originally Posted by Copierguy0
what Viagra, Cialis, and many other ED pills will do to you over time:
• Double the risk of heart attack
• Lung bleeding
• Permanent rosacia
• Permanrnt retinal damage
• blindness
• headaches
• GERD, (acid reflux)
• Nasal Congestion
• Facial Flushing
• Priapism
you do your research for pussy, now do your research for a stiff dick.
CG
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LolaBrea will cure a soft dick any time!!
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09-07-2014, 01:46 PM
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#19
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2011
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GNC is upselling the TV version pill. Very expensive for the two. I have noticed an increase in energy, but haven't felt confident enough to try it out with a provider.
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09-07-2014, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Mar 9, 2011
Location: Ft. Worth
Posts: 266
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Originally Posted by Copierguy0
what Viagra, Cialis, and many other ED pills will do to you over time:
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There are other and safer alternatives.
DO YOUR RESEARCH.
CG
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Such as?????
I have done MUCH serious research and would love to know what you found that neither myself nor my specialist urologist knows???
One thing I believe men SHOULD avoid are these "Low T Clinics" . . . their prices are outrageous and they have the same solution for everyone...thus their names.
My urologist is a fellow at a large regional hospital and while he does NOT embrace the standard "normal" T levels expoused by most non-expert MDs (thanks LABCORP), he is not a testosterone distribution machine.
Still though, would like to hear of medically test proven ED treatments.
OBTW, GNC sells crap . . . they are the distribution point for UNCOUNTABLE compounds that the FDA has banned/sued/prosecuted the manufacturers for.
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09-07-2014, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: Apr 12, 2010
Location: At your Mama's house
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Originally Posted by Copierguy0
what Viagra, Cialis, and many other ED pills will do to you over time:
• Double the risk of heart attack
• Lung bleeding
• Permanent rosacia
• Permanrnt retinal damage
• blindness
• headaches
• GERD, (acid reflux)
• Nasal Congestion
• Facial Flushing
• Priapism
you do your research for pussy, now do your research for a stiff dick. If you been taking ANY ED pills for 3 to 5 years, you are at a high risk. If the dosage that you first started with is not doing what it used to do, that is your first sign to stop, not increase the dosage. The price you pay will be higher than money.
There are other and safer alternatives.
DO YOUR RESEARCH.
CG
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You might die in a car accident if you ever leave your house too. If it was that dangerous I think they would have shut it down by now. There have been 2 or 3 guys taking it for a good minute. As long as your heart is good they are very safe statistically.
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09-07-2014, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by threepeckeredbillygoat
If it was that dangerous I think they would have shut it down by now.
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In my opinion that is dangerous thinking. I could start a list here of drugs that were thought to be wonder drugs, but later proven to have dangerous or even fatal side effects. I actually have used various ED drugs and have decided to give them up. I have noticed a couple of side effects that bother me. I found that if I just keep my weight down, eat well, and exercise at least a little each week, the pecker works much better. I think in years to come we will find they had some less than desirable side effects. As far as stats, judging from here, many guys are trying to get them or a foreign knock off without telling anyone, I doubt if all of these users are in any database.
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09-07-2014, 03:59 PM
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Location: DFW
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Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer
LolaBrea will cure a soft dick any time!!
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There is a lot of truth here. Go with classy women that turn your mind on and the dick will follow.
Slow
PS Sorry couldn't figure out how to combine these two posts.
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09-07-2014, 08:17 PM
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This is the best and safest thing out there!!!
CG
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09-07-2014, 11:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 13, 2010
Location: DFW, Texas
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I have Low-T and have had ED issues in the past. I found that my main issue was Nitric Oxide production and retention. I could get good nocturnal erections, but when it came time to play during the day, it didn't happen or went away as fast as it came. I am now on the following regimen and at the age of 46 have erections like I did in my teens and twenties: Testosterone shots every two weeks, 20mg Cialis Sun & Thu pm, 200mg LongJack every am, 750-1000mg Citrulline and/or Arginine every am & pm, 750mg Maca every am and a Men's Multivitamin with Lycopene every am. Although my demanding schedule rarely allows for it, a good workout at the gym is always a plus. For diet, I tried to stick to meats, vegetables, fruits with limited bread-type items. I try to avoid processed sugars (soft drinks, candy) and rarely drink alcohol.
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09-08-2014, 10:35 AM
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Join Date: Jan 13, 2010
Location: Dallas
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If you have blood flow issues to the point that you are in constant need of vasodilation, go see a doctor. If you have a pinched blood vessel or other issue from hernia or other lower abdominal surgery, go get it looked at. Find the cause of the problem, don't go buy large bottles of tiger's milk solutions and hack science compounds to fix something that might need more than a pharmaceutical solution.
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09-08-2014, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Jan 14, 2014
Location: Ne Texas
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I was told that exercise and a good diet helps tremendously with ED issues and I am a firm believer in that statement. A urologist friend of mine told me that a lot of times, it's all between the ears....stress, work, issues at home, etc which causes poor performance. I usually don't have any issues depending on the provider and how attracted I am to her. But, I have tried levitra which to be honest, I really couldn't tell that I got much of a response from. I also tried Stiff Days with little to no research on it. Surprisingly it worked better than Levitra. Lately And thankfully, I haven't needed any help! I attribute that to my exercise regimen and eating relatively well. A good, hot provider will cure a limp dick any day!! Happy hobbying guys!!
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09-08-2014, 05:16 PM
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Join Date: Mar 9, 2011
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This is the best and safest thing out there!!!
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My extensive research with medical men's health professionals (not just the referenced Eccie threads) revealed the penile injections have their own list of issues, especially since they work exactly the same way as the more common approved ED remedies.
As others have noted . . . good health, appropriate weight, exercise and appropriate T level (NOT the Labcorp standard) does far more in addressing ED issues. Unless there is some other physical feature at work, not only doe they address ED, but mental alertness, healing and overall feeling better and they accommodate spontaneous sexual activity. Hell, the SO loves giving me boners at "inopportune" times
One thing my research did reveal is the number of men who have actual penile injuries they are not aware of... remember when you got RACKED by a baseball when you were 15, or landed on a bicycle crossbar?? You could have scar tissue and other issues that are almost invisible to the patient but can be discovered and corrected by a Urologist who knows what he is doing.
Bottom line from me ... feel free to ignore, go see a male sexual health SPECIALIST as the typical MD, family practitioner or internist are just not "up" on the current research. The current stander for "acceptable" T level is about 375 which is simply ridiculous, especially if you were an athlete for any period of time. I'm now in the 750 range and am angry because I just accepted what my internist said was "normal" . . . 15 years wasted.
I'm over 60 now and having a great time!
Y'all get healthy and have fun. Take what you need to or feel what works, but at least invest in a visit to a Urologist who isn't also a salesman.
Have a great sex life!!!! I'm done here.
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09-09-2014, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2, 2009
Location: Dallas Texas
Posts: 967
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Zeagra sold at New Fine Arts on Shiloh. $40 for 4 100 mg pills, works batter than viagra, cialis, levitra for me.
Mine is related to diabetes and I am now in the gym and watching my diet.
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09-09-2014, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: May 29, 2011
Location: heaven and hell
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damn i didnt know cialis what so freaking expensive. My Urologist gave me a handful of boxes a few months ago and they have been just sitting in my drawer. thats NUTS
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