CoMo charges, be careful and get tested

[ElumEno]

Originally Posted by KCSmutMonkey

Truthfully, I think you guys got a little too involved in trying to beat up some internet douchebag to realize you could have been wrong. Whispers wasn't the point of the thread. The point of the thread was that somebody was actively trying to potentially KILL members of the community. That absolutely needed to be communicated.

I've never really agreed with how these link removals have been handled but that is strictly my opinion. There is really NO difference between posting a link to a news story and just saying "Hey, go check out the Columbia Tribune for a provider spreading HIV." No difference at all. 99% of the people on the board can find that. Unlike these supposed BACK CHANNELS that are completely ineffective for probably 80% of the board, posting news about the hobby helps us all. So, if there is no difference between how the information is communicated, there really is no outing involved by posting a link. The "Outing" happens at the time of the arrest, when someone's name is linked to a alleged crime in the Public Record and then further outed when the news picks up the story. But then real life names do not even link to board handles. The only thing that actually would is if someone's FACE is shown in a mugshot AND that someone has used their face in ECCIE (or BP). Just like with this provider in question. We know very little by just her name. We don't know if she's worked in KC. Nobody knows if they've already banged the girl or not and should get tested. Nobody knows if their next customer that is on the way over to get a BBBJ has been with the provider. If her face was posted, and it was clear that she was on the site (used her face in pics on the site) or some other method of linking the real life name to an ECCIE account, then remove the link. For guys it's a different standard. Since guys never use our face on the site, just posting an article to an arrest doesn't 'out' us on the site AT ALL. Unless the news article says "Tom Smith, better known as Kcsmutmonkey on ECCIE, was arrested for Soliciting an Prostitute" then NO OUTING HAS OCCURRED.

This is how I would handle and/or interpret the outing rule. I fully understand this is not how it was handled in KC in the past but that doesn't mean that past mods were right to handle it that way.

You just basically said in one short post what has taken me over 8 pages to do.

[Chica Chaser]

So with all the Google-Fu and Columbo work that has undoubtedly gone on at this point, is the girl an an Eccie member or not? THAT is the ONLY relevant question to any of this.

[BBQDude71]

So after reading 9 pages of drama. Bottom line is:

1. An active provider, who may or may not be a member of ECCIE, in Columbia was arrested and it turns out that she has HIV by her own admission.
2. I can thank my lucky stars that I haven't been with any providers from Columbia. So I don't have an immediate need to panic. My heart does go out to all of those that did "play" with this provider.
3. Because this board isn't allowed to discuss who this provider is or the name that she goes by in the hobby, then I have no clue who she might be. Thus I will have to make the personal choice to avoid all providers that are from the Columbia area to be sure not to run across this particular provider.

To tip toe my 2 cents into the drama that resulted from the original post. It was my understanding that this board was for the purpose of "Information Exchange" to better the hobby and to keep hobbyists and providers a like safe. I realize that is subject to interpretation, but I would think that if there is publicly verifiable information out that someone is in the hobby with a life threatening disease and not being responsible, then it would be valid information for the safety of all members, both guys and girls. We aren't talking about a simple "so and so got arrested" scenario, nor is it an "OMG Malwoody in real life is our City Mayor" outing... we are talking about a life threatening disease that threatens everyone. And no I am not suggesting rumors of someone having a disease be allowed either. But a police report where the person admits to this on their own is a different story.

Anyway, that is my two cents. I have my flame suit on so feel free to attack me all you want.

[KCSmutMonkey]

Originally Posted by BBQDude71

So after reading 9 pages of drama. Bottom line is:

1. An active provider, who may or may not be a member of ECCIE, in Columbia was arrested and it turns out that she has HIV by her own admission.
2. I can thank my lucky stars that I haven't been with any providers from Columbia. So I don't have an immediate need to panic. My heart does go out to all of those that did "play" with this provider.
3. Because this board isn't allowed to discuss who this provider is or the name that she goes by in the hobby, then I have no clue who she might be. Thus I will have to make the personal choice to avoid all providers that are from the Columbia area to be sure not to run across this particular provider.

To tip toe my 2 cents into the drama that resulted from the original post. It was my understanding that this board was for the purpose of "Information Exchange" to better the hobby and to keep hobbyists and providers a like safe. I realize that is subject to interpretation, but I would think that if there is publicly verifiable information out that someone is in the hobby with a life threatening disease and not being responsible, then it would be valid information for the safety of all members, both guys and girls. We aren't talking about a simple "so and so got arrested" scenario, nor is it an "OMG Malwoody in real life is our City Mayor" outing... we are talking about a life threatening disease that threatens everyone. And no I am not suggesting rumors of someone having a disease be allowed either. But a police report where the person admits to this on their own is a different story.

Anyway, that is my two cents. I have my flame suit on so feel free to attack me all you want.

I think your 2 cents is dead on (pardon the pun). The real issue with your #2 is there really is nothing proving she ONLY worked in Columbia. Being so close to KC, I would think it would have been reasonable that she dipped her toe in this market, hence the concern.

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by BBQDude71

3. Because this board isn't allowed to discuss who this provider is or the name that she goes by in the hobby, then I have no clue who she might be. Thus I will have to make the personal choice to avoid all providers that are from the Columbia area to be sure not to run across this particular provider.

Not necessarily, the question still remains is she or is she not an an Eccie member? That will determine the answers to the rest of your statements.

[Urban Dahlia]

I think the real Bottom Line here is...

It is what it is at this point. Nothing can be changed or undone.

- Everyone Should Go Get Tested ASAP -

Just to be sure, safe and have Peace of mind.

[KCSmutMonkey]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Not necessarily, the question still remains is she or is she not an an Eccie member? That will determine the answers to the rest of your statements.

It doesn't appear she's a member of this site.

[JCM800]

Everyone, I stand corrected .....all links restored.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by JCM800

Everyone, I stand corrected .....all links restored.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Soldier on Slick....
It can be thankless so I'll say it..

Good Job

[Mizzou82]

well done JM

The issue of never having seen CoMo providers and therefore being safe is somewhat irrelevant. Whether or not she worked in KC, there are guys who have hobbied in both places. That is how STDs are so easily spread, you don't have to have sex with the provider who has been committing attempted murder, any provider who has been with any guy who has been with her could have a bullet for you.

Here is a clear pic, play the video

http://www.komu.com/news/woman-charg...ingly-had-hiv/

[BBQDude71]

Originally Posted by Mizzou82

The issue of never having seen CoMo providers and therefore being safe is somewhat irrelevant. Whether or not she worked in KC, there are guys who have hobbied in both places. That is how STDs are so easily spread, you don't have to have sex with the provider who has been committing attempted murder, any provider who has been with any guy who has been with her could have a bullet for you./

I am very well aware of how STDs are so easily spread, but thank you for the refresher course from 6th grade P.E. class.

I was trying to keep the points simple to avoid the tangents that people seem to like to jump on around here. Hence why I keep the flame suit handy.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by JCM800

Everyone, I stand corrected .....all links restored.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Thank-you.

[JS42]

Originally Posted by Whispers

Thank-you.

Now go away.

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by JS42

Now go away.

LMAO!

Some of you are such poor losers....

or maybe just losers....

Bot sure yet.

Y'all let me know when you need some more help!

[JS42]

Dude, I didn't care which way this ended. I just don't like blowhards coming into our area pissing all over our carpet. You're long winded and boring. Good riddance.