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[Guest102513-1]

Well, let's just say, we respectfully agree to disagree. I think "the big boys" have alot bigger fish to fry than folks playing on a site like this.

Not denying that there are risks. And again, nothing is bullet-proof.

But being smart and pro-active keeps ya in the game.

[Guest102513-1]

BTW, You make some good points...of course Phil Kline has now retired in shame, to some Hillbilly University, and loss his legal license to pratice in Kansas.

There are alot of people working in the Jo Co County building who worked very hard to see that the clown Kline was slowed down, during his reign...b4 the higher ups stepped in to stop him....I know this for a fact

But at the same time, I have to agree with ya....how did Kline even get into that position, to begin with.

And yes, the laws in Mo regarding Strip Clubs are embarrassing.

But make no mistakes...these were big time political plays on Morality. Day to Day LE inforcemnet is totally different that political plays.

Certainly, not to say that are our end of the specturm is not vulnerable to that type of thing.

But this is a low-hanging fruit kind of a deal. When the locals decide to turn up the juice...as they do often...they go for the quick and easy stuff.

I say, don't mix hobby with forbidden topics. Of course there is no room for forced or kiddie stuff. That stuff gets the hard attention real soon....as it should be.

But if we stay in the deeper end of the pool and play smart, IMO we can minimze the risks

But hey, your concerns and views are always good refreshers, just to keep us on our toes

[dirty dog]

VK I got to disagree with you on this point. This board and those on it are exactly the kind of fish Sgt. Brad D and his boys are looking for. Being able to hit the board hard would go a long way in establishing the need for more money and budget for his department. Yes there are lots of low hanging fruit to be picked and they will do that but they do not take their eye off of the bigger and more tasty menu items. The feds do typically get involved until the local boys find something that interests them and may give them some face time on TV and then they will find some reason to be involved, they may claim age issues, crossing statelines, wire fraud etc. But regardless of everything that has been stated, I will stand on my statement that screening does not make one safer from a law enforcement protection point of view. It may make a provider a little more safer in preventing phsycal harm. The reality is LE has ways around screening methods and the only purpose in screening is to give the provider a sense of a safer work enviorment which they are entitled to so I am not saying they should not screen, but lets just be real. If they want you, they will get you.

[Guest102513-1]

Well DD, I respect the things you say...especially in areas like this one.
Your post here, definitely gives me stuff to think about....thanks!!!

I certainly did not mean to infer proper screening is fail safe or bullet proof.

I am assuming what you mean when you say "if they want you, they will get you" (at least in this post),
You mean rather than "you" as an individual person..."you" is to be taken as an Eccie member???

And the name mentioned...just curious, he's KCMO???

[dirty dog]

Originally Posted by vkmaster

Well DD, I respect the things you say...especially in areas like this one.
Your post here, definitely gives me stuff to think about....thanks!!!

I certainly did not mean to infer proper screening is fail safe or bullet proof.

I am assuming what you mean when you say "if they want you, they will get you" (at least in this post),
You mean rather than "you" as an individual person..."you" is to be taken as an Eccie member???

And the name mentioned...just curious, he's KCMO???

I was not meaning you specifially VK, but rather you in a broad sense. As for the mentioned individual yes he is KCMO.

[Guest102513-1]

I hear what you are saying DD...thks for your insight!!!

Gotcha!!!

[Soda]

He left me $10 for hh.
References were checked and the ladies said good to go.
He arrived and had a 30mins session.
Left $10 donation.
Ladies this guy is really bad!! Rickryder
He used to go by Rocker Rick
#5*2-3*3-0**5

*Staff Edit: Please do not post full phone numbers of members, CZ.

[Guest013121]

Originally Posted by Soda

He left me $10 for hh.
References were checked and the ladies said good to go.
He arrived and had a 30mins session.
Left $10 donation.
Ladies this guy is really bad!! Rickryder
He used to go by Rocker Rick
#5*2-3*3-0**5

*Staff Edit: Please do not post full phone numbers of members, CZ.

This was better suited for IS. Or even the alerts section. Not sure what this has to do with this old ass thread.

[Guest010719]

.KenMonk;2226326]It doesn't really have anything to do with hiding, it has to do with my safety in general, and the providers safety as well. I'm sure some people might not take too kindly if they find out they are being tracked in some way by a provider and/or PI.

For one my employment would be at risk if news such as this gets out, and quite frankly some providers here haven't shown a large amount of common sense. While I am talking about the few, which tend to ruin it for the many, the fact remains that it concerns me that a provider would even think about going this far.

You want us to share our bodies & invite you into our private space...While having no clue who you are? Honestly who's more at risk (of physical harm or danger)? We see tons of guys all day where you guys see a few ladies here and there.

I have been doing this for over 5 years & if I don't know exactly who you are I'm definitely not seeing you...I care about myself too much! Not only that but I feel that if I'm well reviewed and I'm not known for hurting/Stalking/blackmailing anybody or stealing anybody's identity there should be absolutely no reason for you not to share with me who you are. I have no reason to hurt anyone this is how I make a living (obviously).

So why not just use references you ask? Well once upon a time I thought references were just great until reality proved me wrong. I had 3 situations in specific that happen to me which involved references and made me rethink my screening process...

1 a close friend of mine provided me with a reference for a gentleman whom I did not screen at all. He was fine when he saw her but when he saw me he was overly aggressive he shorted me my money and when I told him I didn't want to see him he continued to text me and tell me I was a psycho and all kind of crazy stuff I felt uncomfortable because he knew where my incall was located and I Had no clue who he was...he still continues to call me to this day.

2 the second one I had contacted a provider whom I had received several references from In the past. but this time she sounded different her speech was slurred and she told me she couldn't remember the guy that she would have to call him. After an hour passed by the client called me wondering what happened I asked him if the lady had contacted him and he said no. I decided to give her a call back and she said I'm sorry I forgot to call you back but I did call him and I remember him he's fine! she was simply too lazy to actually call the guy so she lied to me.

3 the third incident involved very sexy and rich young gentleman. He contacted me and sent me his ID so I knew exactly who he was he came and visited me 3 or 4 times with no problems. He also used me as a reference on several occasions. one of the ladies he went to see was shorted $20 another lady lost the entire donation as he picked it up on his way out. And then he had the nerve to call me and try to come see me after he had robbed my friends! although I did not reveal his identity to anyone I will never see him again nor provide a reference for him.

after that I realized I can no longer accept references. And everyone I see must be screened and if somebody doesn't agree with that that's fine by me no hard feelings. But I'm not willing to put myself in those type of predicaments. although I'm still happy to provide references for the ladies that do use them I always let them know that he was fine when I saw him and that's all I can say.

[Guest013121]

I think anybody using a PI is taking it too far. Using normal screening tools is sufficient enough. Anybody who uses a PI is just lazy and is invading these guys privacy. If someone shorts you $20 or whatever then just chalk it up as a loss and blacklist him. Dont go prying into every other guys personal life by hiring a PI. This is about the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. And, NO, its not good business tactics! Its called quit being so fuckin lazy you feel you need to hire a PI to do your work for you. Jeeeezus!!

[Guest010719]

Originally Posted by Gemma34

I think anybody using a PI is taking it too far. Using normal screening tools is sufficient enough. Anybody who uses a PI is just lazy and is invading these guys privacy. If someone shorts you $20 or whatever then just chalk it up as a loss and blacklist him. Dont go prying into every other guys personal life by hiring a PI. This is about the dumbest shit I've ever heard of. And, NO, its not good business tactics! Its called quit being so fuckin lazy you feel you need to hire a PI to do your work for you. Jeeeezus!!

I don't have a PI and I never would. I don't go after anybody if they shorted me any amount not $20 or $1000. but I do take the precautions to ensure that this does not happen to me and in fact it never has. I do all my own screening and all my own everything and I wouldn't have it any other way.