Y no black men??

[cinnamonshark]

I think this is the gist of Secret's post, but what if beautiful AA providers such as Secret Amore and Janele put on their showcases, "no caucasian men" would the tables be turned?

I agree with other posters, providers have a right to screen whomever they want. But, does this come across as racist or just downright fear because of the reputation of AA being "well blessed" down below?

[GneissGuy]

Originally Posted by Secret_Amore

they believe any AA girl who approaches them will either be "Ghetto" or High drama and High maintenance

Good point. However, among the ladies I've personally met in the hobby, the AA ladies have been less ghetto and less drama prone than the white ones.

They've also seemed more "genuine." The nice ones were nice all the time, the bitches were bitches full time. Fewer Jekyll/Hyde characters. Also, I've run into fewer batshit crazy ones.

There don't seem to be many AA ladies here on ECCIE. It seems to me there are a larger percentage of AA ladies in the provider population at large. Maybe they don't feel welcome stepping in here with all the monkey shitfight assholes. Maybe it's a society thing somehow. Maybe we have a reputation of not booking with AA ladies.

I wish they felt more welcome here.

Here's another post where we re-re-re-rehashed the NBA thread:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1051735747

[Beagle]

Originally Posted by GneissGuy

Here's another post where we re-re-re-rehashed the NBA thread:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1051735747

That's a pretty good summary. I'd be sure to remember that one and post it every time this topic comes up.


PS. You stated it exactly the way I would have liked to, if I'd committed the time to look deep into the discussions.

[Guest101314]

Not every black man is well endowed.... just 98% of them... :P

haha sorry, had to. I will see anyone respectful of me... and as stated before... your pussy is a muscle. Work that shit out so when you are with a less endowed gent, he'll still tell you your shit is tight.

[Janele]

Originally Posted by cinnamonshark

I think this is the gist of Secret's post, but what if beautiful AA providers such as Secret Amore and Janele put on their showcases, "no caucasian men" would the tables be turned?

I agree with other posters, providers have a right to screen whomever they want. But, does this come across as racist or just downright fear because of the reputation of AA being "well blessed" down below?

I have had more "bad" appointments with AA men than good and this is partly because I don't prefer to date them outside the hobby..I was never attracted and about 90% of the ones I did hobby with tried to sell me drugs or low ball rates (with the exception of a few good guys). It also doesn't help when the guy has no current refs or anything which I get a lot of. If a guy can be well vouched for then I don't have a problem but I have a harder time being newbie friendly especially to AA men because of past encounters and personal preference.

[RALPHEY BOY]

Originally Posted by cinnamonshark

I think this is the gist of Secret's post, but what if beautiful AA providers such as Secret Amore and Janele put on their showcases, "no caucasian men" would the tables be turned?

Well if they are in Central Texas and had a no AA Policy then they would not make any money due to Demographics. there simply is not enough Black Men to keep them busy...They would need to be in an area with more Blacks int he population

[Creamy Kitti]

We are not welcome here!

I have been in this hobby for more than enough years. I remember when the Caucasian men wouldn't even see a Caucasian women. They always told me they where the scammers they where known for setting up a appointment and taking off with the money.

This was craigslist and eros days. I was in college. I really don't even remember that many Caucasian ladies in this hobby back then. An it was only 8 years ago.

But know I would be lucky if I get 1 call a week. It's just not going to happen in this hobby any more. Every where I go I'm hearing us girls aren't in. Lol.

I have traveled with many girls, I have even had my own little thing going on so I could see what the problem was. I traveled with big Caucasian ladies, I have traveled with Mexican ladies, I even took a Asian lady to New York. All the other girls got more calls then the ladies of color. They just don't prefer the ladies of color any more.

It's just a few Caucasian men left that really love ladies of color. I really prefer the men who doesn't see color, just love women in general. Like I do. I love all women color doesn't matter. As so with men.

Originally Posted by GneissGuy

Good point. However, among the ladies I've personally met in the hobby, the AA ladies have been less ghetto and less drama prone than the white ones.

They've also seemed more "genuine." The nice ones were nice all the time, the bitches were bitches full time. Fewer Jekyll/Hyde characters. Also, I've run into fewer batshit crazy ones.

There don't seem to be many AA ladies here on ECCIE. It seems to me there are a larger percentage of AA ladies in the provider population at large. Maybe they don't feel welcome stepping in here with all the monkey shitfight assholes. Maybe it's a society thing somehow. Maybe we have a reputation of not booking with AA ladies.

I wish they felt more welcome here.

Here's another post where we re-re-re-rehashed the NBA thread:

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...post1051735747

[Codybeast]

Originally Posted by Creamy Kitti

I really prefer the men who doesn't see color, just love women in general. Like I do. I love all women color doesn't matter. As so with men.

The reality is there is more to the attraction or lack thereof than simple skin color. There are other physical and cultural features that usually go along with it.
If a younger Angelina Jolie had dark skin but all other features remained the same I'd still be the first one in line. If Oprah or Whoopie had white skin I doubt it would help.

No matter what race Hallie Berry, Tyra Banks or a young Vanessa Williams were I'd still be there drooling. Any AA providers who look like that unlikely have any problems filling their dance card with high paying white clientele.

[Creamy Kitti]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

The reality is there is more to the attraction or lack thereof than simple skin color. There are other physical and cultural features that usually go along with it.
If a younger Angelina Jolie had dark skin but all other features remained the same I'd still be the first one in line. If Oprah or Whoopie had white skin I doubt it would help.

No matter what race Hallie Berry, Tyra Banks or a young Vanessa Williams were I'd still be there drooling. Any AA providers who look like that unlikely have any problems filling their dance card with high paying white clientele.

Not true! I have seen the most (unattractive) white women on here with over 100 reviews.

Hallie Berry, Tyra Banks and Vanessa Williams all of these ladies are MIXED!

If you find 5 African American women on here with 50 reviews for what there donations are listed on there showcase as please let me know. So far I only know 3 off top. An even they don't get their donation listed. I see a whole lot of $100 in there review.

I have seen the most beautiful AA women here. IMO look better than 70% of the white women here. With little to no reviews.

But again men now in this hobby aren't paying for AA women looks or the quality of service they provide.

They are donating to the most repugnant, pimped out, $40 motel fair skin ladies. O and did I mention they do anything for anything and have over 50 reviews. 1 man comes in gives another guy high five as the other goes out.

Im not sure what your mean of high paying clientele. But I sure can tell you have not seen it on this site at all. EVER.....These ladies deserve way more money for what they are doing in my opinion. My opinions are my opinions I'm not trying to change anything.

Hay it is a recession......our days of getting $600-$1000 a hour is long over.

[LordBeaverbrook]

Originally Posted by Creamy Kitti

I have seen the most beautiful AA women here. IMO look better than 70% of the white women here. With little to no reviews.

You hit the nail on the head - IMO. Beauty and sex appeal are in the eye of the beholder. I think women of all colors, sizes and attributes are beautiful and if we met and they liked me, then made it known, physical characteristics would make little or no difference as long as they were "attractive". That word, "attractive", has many aspects beyond just physical beauty, but for me it has a lot more to do with attitude, focus and engagement. For me that goes within the hobby and outside. When meeting someone for a fun sexy time based only on physical characteristics in pics and a bit of text plus possibly a few words on the phone (and proffering a donation), my preferences become very selective (except late at night after the titty bar when drunk dialing - BTW, the few times that has happened I actually met the coolest ladies - lucky, I know) and I must admit I pay attention to specials and look for bargains. Considering supply and demand there are plenty of bargains to be had these days.

I'll grant you that for what most ladies offer here they deserve a whole lot more. I would love to easily part with $500 or $1000 each time I have a day. These days, supply being what it is along with the economy, and delivery of high quality services being inconsistent, a lot of us just prefer not to pay more and that is easy to achieve. I have had amazing times for $100 and stayed the night and also disappointments, but other than nicer digs and a bit more tidiness, I have had disappointments in the $200 to $400 range and I've had fantastic times that would have been worth double or more. In my experience $80 or $800 the presentation differs, but its no guarantee of attitude and focus. Whatever the donation, the experience seems to mostly be hit and miss so I look not to be out too much when it is miss. When it is great, I tip very well and return until quality or focus suffers.

One oddity I have noted, is only a couple of ladies, high or low donations, have shown me as good or better a time every time we meet and that puzzles me. Granted, it could be a bit me and the risk/novelty of meeting someone new, but I just don't think that is the case. Bottom line is all things equal, I'd rather find a great deal and tip big than go high end and be disappointed.

This is just my two cents.

[FloridaShark]

I'll be the first one to defend any provider's right to see whomever she wants. Having said that, I almost always consider an NBA policy a negative when I'm looking for company. Personally I don't think the pimp business or the big dick excuse are the real reasons behind these policies.

Most people are racist to some extent and it really comes down to that. There are probably a handful of horror stories involving black men that get passed around a certain segment of providers and they confirm already established prejudices. It's also likely a given that providers who have these racial policies are really half-assed with their screening. It correlates to education like racial prejudice usually does. I'd be willing to bet 90% of providers with a racial policy have never themselves had a bad experience with an AA male. They heard something happened to so and so's friend one time.

To circle back, providers have every right to set boundaries on who they wish to see. Just understand, that when narrowing down my business options, I'll usually select a provider who isn't a racist. Because I have certain presumptions about the type of person she'll be.

Oh, and whoever brought up those CDC STD statistics is also a racist. That's a function of a disproportionately high level of poverty among blacks. The STD rate of mongers willing to pay $250 for 43 minutes of pussy is whatever elevated rate it is. Thinking the rate among that group varies by race is some racist bullshit.

[Codybeast]

Originally Posted by austxjr

"I'll grant you that for what most ladies offer here they deserve a whole lot more. I would love to easily part with $500 or $1000 each time I have a day"

" a lot of us just prefer not to pay more and that is easy to achieve."

If you would love to part with $500 or $1000 each session why let what the lady charges stop you? Based upon your reviews of AA providers you pay an average of $160 per hour which is waaay below what a white girl gets.
Your actions and your words conflict.

[Codybeast]

Originally Posted by FloridaShark

Oh, and whoever brought up those CDC STD statistics is also a racist. That's a function of a disproportionately high level of poverty among blacks. The STD rate of mongers willing to pay $250 for 43 minutes of pussy is whatever elevated rate it is. Thinking the rate among that group varies by race is some racist bullshit.

Whoever brought up the stats may very well be a racist but that is neither here nor there. There are plenty of poor whites, Asians and Hispanics in the country.
The legitimate stats reflecting an 8x higher STD is exactly what it is. Not everything that is negative can be attributed to being poor.
If I understand you correctly you're stating that AA mongers who are able to scrape up a few hundred for BCD are exempt from the stats simply because they can afford to book a BCD session?

[GenesisNicole]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

No matter what race Hallie Berry, Tyra Banks or a young Vanessa Williams were I'd still be there drooling. Any AA providers who look like that unlikely have any problems filling their dance card with high paying white clientele.

While I am not one to toot my own horn in a vain sort of way. I must disagree with you here.

I (and mostly everyone who meets me) can say that I am highly attractive. Yet a GREAT month for me around these parts is 2 calls a month.
^ NO smoke being blown, no BS. Just straight talk.

I am constantly passed over yet I have absolutely nothing but great press about me.

I even roll my eyes when I read my reviews and see the men who jump on the bandwagon.. ("oh she is great". "Gen is the epitome of a lady." "Pure beast in the bed") but how many have ACTUALLY come to see me? Very slim to none!

They are merely commenting based upon what others have said, seen or done.

I have learned to accept what I can not change in the hobby world.
No matter how much I prove myself to be MUCH different from the pack or continue to maintain a flawless reputation, I will ALWAYS be a second or even a LAST choice for the majority. *shrug of my shoulders* C'est La Vie.

Thank goodness my self esteem isn't tied into all of this. If I were weak, I would have crumbled long before now. LOL



~GN~

[Guest062114-5]

While I am SO sick of these NBA threads, you ladies raise a different and much more interesting issue.

I'd love to see a new discussion regarding how the lovely ladies of color can better market to and attract more gentlemen. I have some ideas that I think might be helpful, but I'd love it if someone in this situation would start a new thread. I think it could be very interesting.