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				I'm not married and I don't have an SO, so the question doesn't apply to those like me correct? 
			
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			12-16-2013, 08:27 PM
			
			
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			Well if pretending is ok then I will answer. For me to pursue the blonde bombshell down the way 3 things would need to happen for that to go foward. 1) I would have exit the relationship I was in, 2) For no condoms to be used I would want some kind of proof that there was some kind of birth control being used, 3) I would need some kind of proof that she didn't have any std's. Those 3 things happen and I have no problem screwing her brains out without a condom.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-16-2013, 08:47 PM
			
			
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Q1 As a married man, or a man with a SO, if you were to say unprotected sex feels so much better and if you were bound and determined to make it work with blonde bombshell down the way, what would have to happen in order for you to proceed with no longer using condoms? 
Q2 As a married woman, or woman with a SO, what would you require before having unprotected sex with a man?
  
Same answer for both: Adding another friend to an existing situation would result in a polyamory relationship (consensual, ethical, and responsible non-monogamy).
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-18-2013, 01:05 AM
			
			
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			I'm single with no SO. I have regular play partners, however, only one of them do I play with without protection. What does it take to get on that level with me? I've known her several years, we both have clear tests, she is on birth control... add to that, she's the only one I play bare with and vice verse. Should the nature of any aspect of this change then protection would be worn. 
Someone has to be pretty awesome either way... 
 
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			12-18-2013, 01:11 PM
			
			
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The acid in the stomach will destroy many of the microbes.  Most microbes reside in the gut where the aid in digestion. 
 
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			12-18-2013, 05:15 PM
			
			
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				I remember back to my HS girlfriend. Her cum...my cum...everywhere...dripping down my shaft as she road me CG. Just going at it like rabbits for hours. Damn what a nice memory. Nothing disgusting about all that cum swapping at all. 
			
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member when if u pulled out a condom u were likely to get slapped!  Implied she was a slut!  whatta hoot....ahh the days
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-18-2013, 05:29 PM
			
			
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				I'm single with no SO. I have regular play partners, however, only one of them do I play with without protection. What does it take to get on that level with me? I've known her several years, we both have clear tests, she is on birth control... add to that, she's the only one I play bare with and vice verse. Should the nature of any aspect of this change then protection would be worn. 
 
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I'm NOT single.  I've been seeing the same gal for years and only her.  I've got a vasectomy....she's 30 years younger... not on birth control and not about to get pregnant....you get the picture.  A gamble...yeah.  but I known her long enough to trust her.  I'm ok with the odds.
  
She's ok with me straying and I don't often but anyone else and the raincoat's on.
  
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			12-18-2013, 06:34 PM
			
			
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I like the hypothetical, especially the dichotomy between people saying "only in monogamous relationships" but then seeing providers, which shows they are NOT in monogamous relationships. Interesting thoughts, and some of the responses here, rather than answering your question, feed your argument.
  
I'll chime in on that one, I think its a communication issue and not an argumentatively hypocritical one, or even a flawed one. What is really being said in saying "monogamous relationship" is...
  
trusted relationship with a significant other, where the risk in the relationship surrounds loyalty to insure a lack of infection from unprotected sex.
  
The problem becomes, once again, is that if they are practicing the hobby and not telling their SO, then THEY are the loyalty issue that risks infection. Indeed, if they had PROTECTED sex with a provider, the condom broke (something Ive seen in other threads) and then they continued to have unprotected sex with their SO, then indeed... they are even more hypocritical, and it makes the argument bigger...
  
CUE: Line of folks saying, I would never have sex unprotected my SO if the condom broke. Of course... if they suddenly wanted to wear one at home, You'd have some 'splainin' to doooooooooo.....
  
So, even if the communication issue becomes a moot one, it still doesn't answer that if the "trust" in the relationship is the reason they think unprotected sex is ok... how does the Hobbyist reconcile the fact that THEY are the weak like in the trust circle?
  
Disclosure? That would seem to be the solution!
  
HERE'S another one... How many men could be comfortable knowing their "monogamous SO" was out having sex with MALE escorts. What if one day their wife insisted on using condoms? 
  
Hmmmmmm..... 
  
Maybe that's another thread!
  
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			12-18-2013, 06:39 PM
			
			
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Openness I think addresses the hypocrisy issue I raised.  A responsible open relationship would seem to address the trust issue.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-19-2013, 09:42 AM
			
			
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				I'm single with no SO. I have regular play partners, however, only one of them do I play with without protection. What does it take to get on that level with me? I've known her several years, we both have clear tests, she is on birth control... add to that, she's the only one I play bare with and vice verse. Should the nature of any aspect of this change then protection would be worn. 
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Not dogging on you or your partner, but people do lie, especially when it comes to sex.
 
It only takes one time, one slip, one partner not to be totally honest.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			12-19-2013, 04:50 PM
			
			
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			12-27-2013, 12:36 AM
			
			
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				Not dogging on you or your partner, but people do lie, especially when it comes to sex. 
 
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LOL out of the two of us, she's the honest one... and an over-sharer. She tells me everything
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 Sins, agree with you totally!!!!!!!!!!!!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I was wondering today about scenarios that would make having unprotected sex OK.  
 
Does that scenario ever present itself? 
 
What are the requirements? 
 
As a married man, or a man with a SO, if you were to say unprotected sex feels so much better and if you were bound and determined to make it work with blonde bombshell down the way, what would have to happen in order for you to proceed with no longer using condoms? 
 
As a married woman, or woman with a SO, what would you require before having unprotected sex with a man? 
 
Is unprotected sex ok in real life, but off limits for anyone in the hobby? 
 
Is it ok with some people, but not ok with others? How do you determine when to use a condom and when not to? Hobby yes, real life no? 
			
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I'm not sure if most of y'all are full of it, or it's just that these answers different from the real world because they are here in Hobbyland.
 
Anyway...I'm single.  I go out a lot.  I've been in and out of the Swinger lifestyle for 20 years.  I have a ton of guy friends and I meet a ton of very successful men.  Many married.  Sometimes I hook up with guys.  Yes, as well as being a whore, I am also, at times, a naughty little slut.  
 
That said, I can honestly tell you...each and every time I've been with one of these guys, not once have they wanted to use a condom.  And most have been surprised when I pull out my little Coach wristlet and give them one.  Seriously...
 
I won't brag and tell you how large my sampling is...but it's more than a few!
 
People have unprotected sex all the time.  I've seen guys at strip clubs screw girls bareback.  I even saw anal sex, unprotected, once at a strip club in Houston.  ICK.
 
To answer your original question, PS, to have unprotected sex with someone, I'd need enough trust that I was the only one he was having unprotected sex with and I'd prefer he'd had a vasectomy.  
 
I'd also prefer he came in my mouth...because it's tidier and the cum makes me sleep.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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