Conflicted on O Timing

[pfmtony]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

THAT is an EXCELLENT point. Maybe something to consider..ijs.

Really? I dont have access to the ROS. What details have I seen about these women, little. I also like operating by word of mouth where a lady or man tells me about someone they know i may get along with. I also test the compatibility waters vía PMs, e mail or phone. You are giving the reviews and reviewers credit undue.

The real value here are the showcases, contact info, pm capability and the ladies. It sure as hell isn't the reviews. I don't want to read them. No one wants to read mine either, so why piss and moan about it?

I found the women.using the website yes, but reviews had little if amything to do with it. Heck even bad reviews dont keep guys away from ladies proving they are less relevant. Guys trip over themselves to see non reviewed girls all day here. Most of it is to get a "review discount". This also shows reviews mean squat. False reviews allowed, legitimate.reviews attacked for personal reasons...... Yet I'm the bad guy. Okay Fine, im the bad guy. And as the bad guy, i say fuck it, no reviews.

[DarthDVader]

Tony, what is the point about writing here? I don't get it ... If you don't want to share your experiences, fine, but then why even bother about telling that something mysterious happened ... If its only yours, its yours, don't say anything ...

If I want to share something, I write a review, or tell my experience saying names ... If its for men only, I do it with private tags ... and if there is something I don't want to tell or the lady asked me not to share, why even bother to say: I have a secret, but its only mine and I wont share it with anyone? ...

Gives the impression that you only want to brag about it to make you feel better or that you might be lying and nothing happened ... I'm not saying you are, but that is the impression that you give ...

At this point if you don't start writing reviews instead of posting on every thread you find, everything you post will be doubted ... then what is the point about posting, just for your own personal benefit?

Just my 2 cents buddy, I hope you find my words useful ...

Originally Posted by pfmtony

Do it or STFU? Really? No thanks, I will go my own road as usual. Thanks for playing though.

THN, thanks for the support, and yes I'd rather not write a review for obvious reasons. And no you.weren't this mystery woman..... But you are mysterious in your own ways.

And trust me I'm not bragging. Literally this woman draws this out in me. It's not me at all. It's her. These Dallas ladies are a real treasure. I'm no stud, but occassionally I feel like one. Be mad all you want guys she was and is the talent. I was just the lucky benefactor.


Do it or STFU.... LOL!

See L.A., ad much as I'd like to, this is why I cannot.

Prolongue, thanks for proving that the IE part of ECCIE is a farce once again.

[Guest092216]

Tony, I'm saying this with love bc i know you are a good, well-meaning person.

There are lots of guys who don't do reviews but they don't discuss details of the sessions anywhere else either.

If you are gonna go into detail about your sessions on the board then you should do reviews. Period.

There is a lot about the bigger picture that I think you may be missing. Again, just trying to help.

[DarthDVader]

Back on topic, yes OG, this is the Holy Grail ... when you can yell at the same time OH MY GOD!!! ... its so a sacred moment ... IJS

Originally Posted by OldGrump

Darth, that is the Holy Grail of fucking. I can count on my fingers and toes how many times the stars have crossed that way. It takes you to another world. Damn, I'm (almost) getting hard thinking of those times.

[pfmtony]

Darth I hear you. And ideally you are correct. But you, if anyone, ought to know the environment is usually far from ideal.

Everyone keeps saying I should do it in the name of fairness. Okay address the non fair problems I've pointed out first, and I will gladly do it. No one ever adresses the problems. Instead everyone tries to make my decision to not participate the problem. Well that's bullshit.

As long as false reviews stand, pimp reviews stand, and legitimate hobbyists reviews are attacked, no one can dare complain I am the one ruining the system without a large dose of hypocrisy.

I hear everyone. I get it. I "should" do it. But pimp reviews "shouldnt" laser reviews "shouldnt" and truthful review "shouldnt" be attacked, yet they are.

So I've never been one to do.what I "should" anyway.

Fix the game, and I will play along. As long as the game is rigged and the deck is stacked, no thanks. As long as the game is fucked, I will play by my rules. It's safer that way.

[pfmtony]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

Tony, I'm saying this with love bc i know you are a good, well-meaning person.

There are lots of guys who don't do reviews but they don't discuss details of the sessions anywhere else either.

If you are gonna go into detail about your sessions on the board then you should do reviews. Period.

There is a lot about the bigger picture that I think you may be missing. Again, just trying to help.

I didn't missed it, and thank you. I just like poking the ant hill once in a while. And I'm not that good . You on the other hand, are simply wonderful.

[NearHauteRed]

Originally Posted by pfmtony

Everyone keeps saying I should do it in the name of fairness. Okay address the non fair problems I've pointed out first, and I will gladly do it. No one ever adresses the problems. Instead everyone tries to make my decision to not participate the problem. Well that's bullshit.

As long as false reviews stand, pimp reviews stand, and legitimate hobbyists reviews are attacked, no one can dare complain I am the one ruining the system without a large dose of hypocrisy.

I hear everyone. I get it. I "should" do it. But pimp reviews "shouldnt" laser reviews "shouldnt" and truthful review "shouldnt" be attacked, yet they are.

So I've never been one to do.what I "should" anyway.

Fix the game, and I will play along. As long as the game is rigged and the deck is stacked, no thanks. As long as the game is fucked, I will play by my rules. It's safer that way.

Here here.........Agree whole heartedly with you, pfmtony! I do not think they will fix it, at least during my lifetime, so I am not playing the review game either! I was actually told by a fellow hobbyist that I am missing out on the providers who give "review specials", but disagreed with that and told him in my sessions with those girls and gave them the $20-40 I would have saved for writing a review. The provider's find out that I am not cheap and looking for a bargain, plus the fact that about half of those hobbyists do not write the reviews after they get the discounted session.

[Guest092216]

Unfortunately, no man-made system is infallible (as seen with the miscalculated and unsyncronized Os we all cum to live with ).

For many honest players on the board, the key is to stay transparent and let the chips fall where they may. Time will tell all truths and eventually it does whether its today or ten years from now.

The fact that you refuse to do reviews but go into grand detail about your experiences with nameless beauties is a preverbial slap in the face to the very gents who have put their cards on the table for your benefit.**

Just because you can't read the ROS doesn't mean you are unable to see yesses or nos or a whole other wealth of information available. There's a psychology behind the process. And it's important.

I see your point but don't you see their's? If you see an attractive woman on the boards but a number of her reviews said "No" would you still take the plunge?

Aren't you now, for all intents and purposes, getting even more of the problems you were hoping to avoid by not writing reviews? It just doesn't make sense at this point anymore.

Again, please take what I'm saying with love because I really am just trying to help. Be well friend.

**Edit: I don't disagree with a no review policy but if you are not going to discuss it out in the open, then don't discuss it out in the open.

[fletch]

wait...i think i get it.

because i was doubtful that providers actually had OOO's i went to investigate with provider no-name.

when i arrived i asked no-name if she had OOO's and she said it depends.

we proceeded to DATY, DATO, FIV, BBBJ, MISH, K9, RCG, CG, she talked dirty to me and some other YMMV things that are between us, but I'll tell ya you wouldn't believe the things she did to me BCD. you wouldn't believe me even if i did tell ya because ooooh it was soooo good.

at the end provider no-name said, "of course i OOO'd baby", and i'll tell you what i believe her...but how, well that's between us.

how did i do??

[pfmtony]

Oh the details I would write if I actually did a review.... Trust me when I say I haven't gone into detail.

THN, I do see what you are saying. I just want people to acknowledge there is another side to the coin. I only show a small snippets of the details I could recall and the outcry serves to prove my point.

I'm only writing a review if the woman requests it. My memory is vivid and awesome though so thank goodness no one wants a review from me .

Someone said write a review.... I said no one would believe it. I was right. I gave a brief snippet proving I'm right. The backlash isn't my fault, but I did correctly predict it. No provider in her right mind would want a review as detailed or as vivid as I could write. I remember, colors, smells, clothing, whispers, when she says mhm hmm when I ask something naughty. The guys would live reading and attacking it. That's why it ain't happening.

As for me, I can disappear anyday at anytime. I'm here for entertainment. If you all want me gone, see ya. If you aren't entertained, sorry.

Inspire of all the logical reasons and good people with honest intentions, the negatives still equal no review. The snippet just proves the point.

If I ever do one, it will likely be a one and done thing for all the reasons mentioned.

I know I'm not playing by the rules.

[NearHauteRed]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

Unfortunately, no man-made system is infallible (as seen with the miscalculated and unsyncronized Os we all cum to live with ).

For many honest players on the board, the key is to stay transparent and let the chips fall where they may. Time will tell all truths and eventually it does whether its today or ten years from now.

The fact that you refuse to do reviews but go into grand detail about your experiences with nameless beauties is a preverbial slap in the face to the very gents who have put their cards on the table for your benefit.**

Just because you can't read the ROS doesn't mean you are unable to see yesses or nos or a whole other wealth of information available. There's a psychology behind the process. And it's important.

I see your point but don't you see their's? If you see an attractive woman on the boards but a number of her reviews said "No" would you still take the plunge?

Aren't you now, for all intents and purposes, getting even more of the problems you were hoping to avoid by not writing reviews? It just doesn't make sense at this point anymore.

Again, please take what I'm saying with love because I really am just trying to help. Be well friend.

**Edit: I don't disagree with a no review policy but if you are not going to discuss it out in the open, then don't discuss it out in the open.

I also agree with THN, and my bcd sessions have not and will not be discussed by me and if it is, I use a broad generalization from time to time. With the fake reviews, which include reviews by pimps, guys just wanting to get premium access to the fake reviews others are writing and guys writing the review to advertise for a particular provider, then the gentlemen who write honest reviews and get pummeled by WKs and the general smart asses under their review, I would love to write reviews of my actual experiences, but to me, it is not worth it. Yes it is true that I do get to use the search feature on providers to see their review history of a provider to get an idea of whether or not to see her for a session, but ultimately, having my own due diligent process that I have used for years is what determines me wanting a session with her.

[Prolongus]

Well said, THN.

This guy or any guy lumping all reviews as useless is no defense for not writing them. There are good ones and bad ones, good reviewers and bad reviewers. It's info, it's not perfect and will never be.

I just don't have much respect for any guy who doesn't write them. You come off as a taker, not somebody who shares.

[Guest092216]

Originally Posted by pfmtony

Oh the details I would write if I actually did a review.... Trust me when I say I haven't gone into detail.

THN, I do see what you are saying. I just want people to acknowledge there is another side to the coin. I only show a small snippets of the details I could recall and the outcry serves to prove my point.

I'm only writing a review if the woman requests it. My memory is vivid and awesome though so thank goodness no one wants a review from me .

Someone said write a review.... I said no one would believe it. I was right. I gave a brief snippet proving I'm right. The backlash isn't my fault, but I did correctly predict it. No provider in her right mind would want a review as detailed or as vivid as I could write. I remember, colors, smells, clothing, whispers, when she says mhm hmm when I ask something naughty. The guys would live reading and attacking it. That's why it ain't happening.

As for me, I can disappear anyday at anytime. I'm here for entertainment. If you all want me gone, see ya. If you aren't entertained, sorry.

Inspire of all the logical reasons and good people with honest intentions, the negatives still equal no review. The snippet just proves the point.

If I ever do one, it will likely be a one and done thing for all the reasons mentioned.

I know I'm not playing by the rules.

I'm glad we can agree to disagree and still be cool.

My only advice would still be to have the advantage of premium access so you can fully understand the way things work from a hobbyist's perspective. It can't hurt. There might even be some better info in the men's private area on how to get the simultaneous Os we've all cum to lust after.

[phildo]

While I admire all of you guys (and THN) for trying to get the trolls out from under the bridge, for whatever reason(s) they prefer to stay. No name calling, it's just that way. If I had not experienced the same sense of entitlement without dues, taking without giving back, respect expected not earned and other generally juvenile behaviors in my own experience from a 30 something someone who should know better, I'd be all over this. There's a bunch of entitled takers whose sense of fair play means they hide their toys and wanna play with, and put yours at risk, but not their own. As long as the elitist wannabes and their social Remoras, sycophants, easy hookers and Old Fart Enablers allow them to play this game at arms length, all the wrath, logic and well intentioned (or not) differences of opinion with the trolls is a waste of time. As irritating as a rash can be, resisting the urge to scratch it is often the higher ground. If an information vampire douche can't see it itself in the mirror, you can't point it out to them.

Never bother trying to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time and the pig will never get it.

[omakase]

Ok...

So back to the original topic "at hand." I don't think ladies expect to reach nirvana during a typical session. If they do, it's a perk for another job well done. And moreover, I don't think they mind how they reach enlightenment.

But I wish there was a green light or buzzer when she crosses the finish line. Maybe I'm brainwashed by porn, pop media, and cynicism, but I can't tell whether she's impersonating Meg Ryan or divining the meaning of life. I always assume that she's delivering an Oscar performance and continue until one of us taps out (usually me). Nonetheless, given the right set of circumstances, some ladies can overcome biology and transform you into a prized stallion*.