PSA for the hobbyists...

[Netx9]

It sounds like Tracy meant it as a reminder, albeit perhaps a not so gentle one. In kind, Ginger reminds us of the human and social aspects as well. These are not mutually exclusive. Expectations on both sides need to be established beforehand and then respected and anyone who does snot, should be called out, providers and hobbyists alike.

As for the time thing, we've read the reviews and I've even met girl where an hour was agreed upon, popped at 20 minutes only to have them get dressed and not so subtly let me know we were done. Even if she was not msog, Don't advertise an hr rate if that only means one pop and leave, right! Tracy should not generalize but she included her own counter example of a social situation.

I, for one, enjoy the companionship as well as the bcd activities and enjoy meeting providers who do so as well. I repeat and return with them, treat them as they treat me and like making a connection, fully realizing the nature of the relationship. I've been exceedingly blessed to meet some great people, some of whom I would consider friends, but those relationships began by respecting the rules and boundaries, expecting nothing more.

To those who have made my visits past and present so enjoyable.... THANK YOU! (you know who you are )

Tracy, posting when aggravated can result in a potentially negative connotation in your words. After re-reading your post and ginger's and other's replies, it sounds like we're all on the same page here. Respect the boundaries/rules, make friends if that opportunity presents itself, and have fun when you can.

If you love what you do, you'll never work another day in your life

[Guest101314]

Thank you puddy tat. Luckily I don't only do this for work.

[Texas_361]

Meeeeeoooooow! =)

[Guest101314]

@netx9 If I offended anyone, I really am sorry. It wasn't meant to offend, just as a reminder of what I thought the point of this whole hobby is. I have many clients who I enjoy quality NON bcd activities with. Those are actually my most cherished dates rather than the quick, wham bam thank you ma'am types. Which is probably why I only see a few a day rather than multiples. My whole point was, if we haven't built up a connection like that, please don't take advantage. I was expecting compensation, especially since I thought it was a regular appointment and had to drive a good distance, get a baby sitter and put off other appointments to see whom I had hoped to be a return client since this was my second time seeing him. We were on our way to building that connection. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the date, me and this client have great conversation and played with his crazy dogs for a while. He even made me dinner. I guess I just take the meaning of the word "escort" literally. *Shrugs* I wasn't trying to generalize either, but the basis is the same, is it not? Are not all the providers on this board "escorts" ? We can escort you to the movies, to a business luncheon, to your couch, to your bed. It doesn't matter if we have sex or not because obviously that is a personal choice between the two of us. Like a lot of the other ladies on here, I've had many dates where we just hang out. But I know I myself was in some shape or form compensated for my time. That's all I'm saying.

[Guest101314]

Oh and for the record, I do offer MSOG. Closed mouths don't get fed, so if you would like to go another round, by all means ask!

[Guest101114]

Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

If you guys are looking for a real world type of date, there are many, many, many websites where you can find girls who aren't going to charge you to hang out with them. I am a great GFE but because this is my JOB and how I make my ends meet, please do not be disrespectful of that and expect freebies.

I understand this... I have guys that call me their "girlfriend" but they know I am not... some even tell me "I love you."

As long as they don't get crazy it's okay... I had a nice chit chat with a friend from Austin yesterday (hobbyist friend... but still a very good friend to me) regarding some tuff things I am going through with emotions right now... it wasn't even hobby related and he was there for me

I had a rant not too long ago... It was just my personal feelings though... I know you were not grouping us all into one big pile... Thanks for the PM and explaining Tracy.

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=800018&highlight=

Originally Posted by Ginger Lovelace

I have made some amazing friends within the hobbiest community and to those individuals there is NEVER A CLOCK RUNNING. There is a HUMAN ASPECT to the people behind these handles and there are exceptions for some of us!!!

I agree about making "amazing friends" in the hobby... I have as well... This may seem a little off topic and hopefully not rude but I love that movie "Lost in Translation"... For those who are not familiar with that flick... It has a message like... Well, from what I translated... You can come across amazing people in this world but some of them are only meant to be in your life for the moment you shared... I don't know why but I just thought of that... I think maybe it's because I am unsure whether or not I will still have friends from the hobby after I "leave"... If I ever do... hehe

I agree with Ginger when she said "If you have had an issue with your clientele abusing their privileged time with you... buck up and handle it directly!" (Spelling errors corrected free of charge... Just kidding hehe) That is true because you can tell them to leave anytime... but I know some girls are really submissive... like myself, and some can get taken advantage of... but I guess that is exactly why Ginger said "Buck up!

Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

Are not all the providers on this board "escorts" ? We can escort you to the movies, to a business luncheon, to your couch, to your bed. It doesn't matter if we have sex or not because obviously that is a personal choice between the two of us. Like a lot of the other ladies on here, I've had many dates where we just hang out. But I know I myself was in some shape or form compensated for my time. That's all I'm saying.

I will hangout with my regulars... go to lunch, do dinner, movies, meet up for a simple coffee or just chill at their house maybe float around in their pool and yes, play with their dogs!

It was very nice that one night Tracy and I had a mutual "friend" take us to dinner... he already had great standing with both of us so we felt comfortable... and we knew AHEAD of time that it was just dinner... even thought he wanted to take us both home... Hehehe

[Guest100114-1]

Lol this is too funny. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one . This was probably blown out if proportion. I've seen Tracy and also have seen ginger. If I were to judge ginger by all her posts I wouldn't want to see her but she is different when you meet her. If I judged Tracy by this post I probably would feel the same. If you judge these women by a post or two you are missing out. Just look at past posts and judge for yourself. No one is perfect. Happy hobbying everyone!!!

[Guest101114]

Originally Posted by hornbill

Just look at past posts and judge for yourself. No one is perfect. Happy hobbying everyone!!!

[Guest101314]

@Karla Me and the gent spoke about what my expectations were, and he did apologize which is why I wasn't making an alert on him. He is a sweetie, there just was obviously some misunderstanding.

Again, if you were offended, that wasn't my intention. I'm being very sarcastic when I said "platinum pussy". I thought Ginger's end statement was funny. If you know me, you would get it. :P My clients know they can text me any time, and I'm very blessed and grateful for the ones I do get to enjoy quality time with. You guys are better than real life boyfriends, trust me! I get treated way better and I hope (and according to my reviews.. ) you feel that I treat you all well.

Now, who wants to blow off some steam?

[Guest101314]

Originally Posted by hornbill

Lol this is too funny. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one . This was probably blown out if proportion. I've seen Tracy and also have seen ginger. If I were to judge ginger by all her posts I wouldn't want to see her but she is different when you meet her. If I judged Tracy by this post I probably would feel the same. If you judge these women by a post or two you are missing out. Just look at past posts and judge for yourself. No one is perfect. Happy hobbying everyone!!!

I <3 you so much Hornbill.

[Guest101114]

Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

@Karla Me and the gent spoke about what my expectations were, and he did apologize which is why I wasn't making an alert on him. He is a sweetie, there just was obviously some misunderstanding.

Well, hopefully everything is okay now

Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

You guys are better than real life boyfriends...

Hell yes!!

Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

Now, who wants to blow off some steam?

Hehehe naughty girl...

[Guest121514]

Originally Posted by Mokoa

There are those who choose to go beyond the business transaction and want friendship and there are those who don't.

It is a personal choice and, consequently, a personal responsibility.

Well said, Mokoa. Personally, I'm here for a great fuck with a hot babe. Tracy, you would certainly satisfy the fantasy...

[Guest101314]

Oooo TomSlick. Let's see how "slick" we can get it! :P

Karla, you need to move down here already! You could have helped me, I'm all extra amped up now :P

I agree with Mokoa as well. I consider my regulars my friends. Please don't get it confused. The gent I was referring to wasn't considered a regular yet, but a new client. And yes, everything is all better.

[Guest101114]

Originally Posted by TomSlick46

Personally, I'm here for a great fuck with a hot babe. Tracy, you qualify.

Hehehe... That's what this site is all about!! FUN!! FUN!! FUN!!!

Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

Oooo TomSlick. Let's see how "slick" we can get it!

Your on a roll today with the naughty references Tracy!!

Originally Posted by Tracy Auburn

Karla, you need to move down here already! You could have helped me, I'm all extra amped up now.

I'm coming... I'm coming!! Just tying up loose ends!!

[thatgirlbailey]

This comment is not directed towards anyone just my .02 (I do not and will not EVER partake in "catfights"). I have met both ladies and they are lovely in different great ways.

For me personally I am not a clock watcher. In fact I had a situation recently with an older gentleman (72) who was very nervous and it was his first real provider experience. He could not preform at all and was ready to throw in the towel for good. He took his viagra 4 hours before our date. I nicely informed him it should be about 30/45 minutes before and gave him back most of his donation (he was only here for about 15 minutes) as long as he promised I could help assist him again after taking my advice. Now whether he does or not that is up to him. I have a conscience. Not 'tooting my own horn' just getting to my point....

In this I will say....to each their own. Tracy and Ginger do things different. I do what has worked for me for a very long time and that will not change for that reason. All ladies have different looks, attitudes, methods, activities etc. That is why gents love this board and the hobby so much.

I have some guys that don't see me a lot because I tend to talk a little much lol and they actually WANT me to watch the clock because they are on a tight schedule.

Do what works for you! Don't change what you do if it is working it will only back fire.

Whoever said posting while you are agitated is a bad idea well I +1 that.

HAPPY hobbying